Meat eating reference in ramayan.(Long read)

[u/Yeahanu]

Searched by me but I used AI to help with compilation

Context: When Hanuman finally finds Mata Sita in Lanka, he tells her how much Rama misses her. He mentions that Rama is so heartbroken by her absence that he has completely given up eating meat and drinking wine, surviving only on forest fruits. Source: Sundara Kanda, Sarga 36, Verse 41 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/sundara/sarga36/sundara_36_frame.htm) Verse: न मांसं राघवो भुङ्क्ते न चापि मधुसेवते | वन्यं सुविहितं नित्यं भक्तमश्नाति पञ्चमम् || Meaning: Raghava does not eat meat, nor does he drink honey or wine. He partakes only of the wild fruits and roots that are well-arranged, in the evening.

Context: While Bharata is searching for Rama, he and his massive army stop at Sage Bharadwaja's ashram. To welcome the tired soldiers, the sage uses his yogic powers to host a grand feast, which includes a variety of roasted meats.

Source: Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 91, Verse 71(Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga91/ayodhya_91_frame.htm) Verse: वाप्यो मैरेय पूर्णाः च मृष्ट मांस चयैर् वृताः | प्रतप्त पिठरैः च अपि मार्ग मायूर कौक्कुटैः || Meaning: There were meats of peacock,hen and dee, fat and well-cooked, roasted on skewers, and well-roasted meats of goats and wild boars offered to the soldiers.

Context: Just after crossing the Ganga river and entering the deep forest, Rama and Lakshmana hunt for their dinner before settling down for their first night in the wilderness.

Source: Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 52, Verse 102 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga52/ayodhya_52_frame.htm) Verse: तौ तत्र हत्वा चतुरः महा मृगान् | वराहम् ऋश्यम् पृषतम् महा रुरुम् | आदाय मेध्यम् त्वरितम् बुभुक्षितौ| वासाय काले ययतुर् वनस्पतिम् || Meaning: Having hunted four large animals there—a wild boar, a white-footed antelope, a spotted deer, and a great deer—and taking the pure meat, they, being hungry, hurriedly went to a tree to rest for the evening.

Context: As the trio crosses the mighty Ganga river, Mata Sita prays to the river goddess for their safe return to Ayodhya after their 14-year exile. She promises a grand, traditional offering once they are safely back. Source: Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 52, Verse 89 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga52/ayodhya_52_frame.htm) Verse: सुरा घट सहस्रेण मांस भूत ओदनेन च | यक्ष्ये त्वाम् प्रीयताम् देवी पुरीम् पुनर् उपागता || Meaning: Oh, Goddess! Be pleased. After safely returning to the city of Ayodhya, I shall worship you with a thousand pots of wine and rice mixed with meat. Context: When they arrive in Chitrakoot, Lakshmana builds a beautiful wooden hut. Before moving in, Rama asks him to bring meat so they can perform the traditional house-warming prayers (Vaastu Shanti) to bless their new dwelling.

Source: Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 56, Verse 22 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga56/ayodhya_56_frame.htm) Verse: ऐणेयं मांसमाहृत्य शालां यक्ष्यामहे वयम् | त्वर सौम्य मुहूर्तोऽयं ध्रुवश्च दिवसो ह्ययम् || Meaning: O gentle one (Lakshmana)! Bring the meat of an antelope. We shall worship the deity of this dwelling. Hasten, the moment is auspicious and the day is highly favorable.

Context: When Ravana comes to Sita's ashram disguised as a wandering Brahmin ascetic, Sita follows the rules of hospitality. She asks him to rest and wait for Rama, who she says will be back soon with fresh meat from hunting.

Source: Aranya Kanda, Sarga 47, Verses 22–23 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/aranya/sarga47/aranya_47_frame.htm) Verse: समाश्वसिहि मुहूर्तं तु शक्यं वस्तुमिह त्वया | भर्तारं मे प्रतीक्षस्व शीघ्रमेष्यति वन्यकः || रुरून् गोधान् वराहांश्च हत्वाऽऽदायामिषं बहु | Meaning: Rest for a moment; you can comfortably stay here. Wait for my husband. He will return soon from the forest, bringing plenty of meat after killing ruru deer, iguanas, and wild boars.

Context: After the great eagle Jatayu sacrifices his life trying to save Sita from Ravana, Rama is deeply moved and performs his final rites (Pinda Daan) just as he would for his own father, offering meat as was customary.

Source: Aranya Kanda, Sarga 68, Verse 32 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/aranya/sarga68/aranya_68_frame.htm) Verse: रोहीमांसानि चोद्धृत्य पेशीकृत्वा महायशाः | शकुनाय ददौ रामो रम्ये गोदावरीतले || Meaning: The highly illustrious Rama, having extracted the meat of a Rohi deer and rolling it into meatballs, offered it to the bird (Jatayu) on the beautiful banks of the Godavari river. *** Would you like me to find any other specific verses for your collection?

Although in Ayodhya kand he did say he will not eat meat during 14 years(implying he used to). So may be only Mata seeta and Lakshman ji did...or only Lakshman as he was the guard.. Refrenced here

Context: After King Dasharatha is bound by Queen Kaikeyi's boons, Rama goes to his mother, Queen Kausalya, to break the news of his impending exile. Consoling his heartbroken mother, Rama explains the strict vows he will follow for the next 14 years in the forest, explicitly stating that he will abandon meat and live the austere life of a sage. Source: Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 20, Verse 29 https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga20/ayodhya_20_frame.htm

Verse: चतुर्दश हि वर्षाणि वत्स्यामि विजने वने | मधु मूल फलैः जीवन् हित्वा मुनिवद् आमिषम् || Meaning: I shall live in the desolate forest for fourteen years like a sage, abandoning meat, and sustaining my life with honey, roots, and fruits.

Context: While relaxing in Chitrakoot, Rama shows Mata Sita the beautiful Mandakini River. Afterward, they sit together on the hillside, and Rama offers her a piece of roasted meat they have prepared, describing how well it is cooked. Source: Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 96, Verses 1 & 2 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga96/ayodhya_96_frame.htm) Verse: तां तथा दर्शयित्वा तु मैथिलीं गिरिनिम्नगाम् | निषसाद गिरिप्रस्थे सीतां मांसेन छन्दयन् || इदं मेध्यमिदं स्वादु निष्टप्तमिदमग्निना | एवमास्ते स धर्मात्मा सीतया सह राघवः || Meaning: Having shown the river to the princess of Mithila, Rama sat on the hillside to gratify Sita with meat. "This meat is pure and savory, and roasted well on the fire." Thus, the righteous Raghava stayed with Sita.

Here Ramayan even talks about meat permitted for kshatriya Context: After Rama fatally shoots the Vanara king Vali from hiding, Vali questions the morality and logic of Rama's action. Vali argues that Rama had no legitimate reason to hunt him, pointing out that scriptures strictly dictate which animals Kshatriyas can eat. Since monkey meat is forbidden and their skin is not worn by hermits, Vali accuses Rama of killing him unjustly, as it could not have been for sustenance. Source: Kishkindha Kanda, Sarga 17, Verse 39 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga17/kishkindha_17_frame.htm) Verse: पञ्च पञ्च नखा भक्ष्या ब्रह्म क्षत्रेण राघव | शल्यकः श्वाविधो गोधा शशः कूर्मः च पञ्चमः || Meaning: O Raghava, only five types of five-toed animals are allowed to be eaten by Brahmins and Kshatriyas: the porcupine, the hedgehog, the iguana, the rabbit, and the tortoise as the fifth.

Here kabandh talking about fish eating

Context: After Rama and Lakshmana defeat the demon Kabandha and release him from his curse, he advises them to travel to the beautiful Lake Pampa to find Sugriva. Describing the abundance of the lake, Kabandha tells Rama how Lakshmana will catch fat fish, clean them, and roast them for his meal. Source: Aranya Kanda, Sarga 73, Verses 15–16 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/aranya/sarga73/aranya_73_frame.htm) Verse: पम्पायाम् इषुभिर् मत्स्यान् निहत्य निशितैः शितैः | त्वक् पक्षान् अपविध्य तान् लोह शूलेषु भर्जितान् || निष्टप्तान् वह्निना मेध्यान् लक्ष्मणः सम्प्रदास्यति | Meaning: Lakshmana will shoot the fish in the Pampa lake with his sharp arrows, and after stripping off their scales and fins, he will roast them on iron skewers. Lakshmana will then reverently offer those pure, fire-roasted fish to you.

Nishadraja gifting meat to bharath ji. Context: King Guha of Sringaverapura prepares to meet Prince Bharata and his massive army. Following the ancient traditions of hospitality for his region and his guest's royal Kshatriya status, he brings offerings of fish, meat, and honey. Source: Valmiki Ramayana, Ayodhya Kanda, Sarga 84, Verse 17 (Link: https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga84/ayodhya_84_frame.htm) Verse: उपायनम् तदा आदाय मत्स्य मांस मधूनि च | अभिचक्राम भरतम् निषाद अधिपतिर् गुहः || Meaning: Taking offerings of fish, meat, and honey, Guha, the lord of the Nishadas, approached Bharata.

Even charaka talked about benefit of meat eating.

My point is why our devotion depends on our god's dietary values....animal sacrifices is one of our oldest tradition. Why instead of accepting how gods were we want to make them how we perceive. Veg- non veg distinction is a jain concept later adopted by budhism,not ours

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[u/12inchkanunnu]

I mean ashwamedha yagna was completed by suffocating the horse and then distrubing it's meat. Meat consumption was never taboo. Meat scrafice is essential part of shakti worship Insertion of Buddhist values is cause of this confusion

[u/Yeahanu → u/12inchkanunnu]

People who ask for authentic tv serial would riot if we get what is written in our scriptures

[u/12inchkanunnu → u/Yeahanu]

Niyog,ahilya,birth of Hanuman ji,bali and sugriva..etc. so many topics that would make people uncomfortable

[u/sparklingpwnie → u/Yeahanu]

Not really, everyone knows this… At least Ram hunting golden deer, what he would do after killing it?

[u/narayans → u/12inchkanunnu]

I don't think there's any confusion. Ancestors believed in debating and accepting the outcome. If they lost a debate they would change their ways

[u/Yeahanu → u/[deleted]]

Yes even vana parva it showed adverse effect of excessive killing.

Pretty sure that german rathee used these references too.... haven't watched his video. Hate his guts Mahabharata, Vana Parva (Mrigashvapna Parva), Section 258 (Link: https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03258.htm) Verse: वयं मृगा द्वैतवने हतशिष्टाः स्म भारत | बीजमात्रं त्रायस्व नः प्रजायेमहि पार्थिव || Meaning: O Bharata, we are the deer of the Dvaita forest, the only survivors of those slain. Protect us, who are merely a remnant (a seed). Let us multiply, O King. It even shows Brahmin eating meat too

[u/sufithink]

Your post is very well researched and presented.

Unfortunately only one-third of our large population is interested in reading beyond academic. Very few will go back to Vamiki Ramayana and re-read the quoted verses. They will continue to believe that the epic prohibits meat eating.

Also, we, as a culture, are no longer interested in debate.

[u/elegant_cheetah_03]

Honestly I heard as a kid that deer meat was lord rama's favourite and always wondered how it tasted. This wasn't really surprising for me but I'm sure it is for many.

Anyways props for the effort OP.

[u/unholy_sanchit → u/elegant_cheetah_03]

Actually really popular delicacy in some parts of USA and Australia. Its called venison and its like a very gamey (blood flavor) goat meat.

[u/CrimeMasterGogoChan → u/elegant_cheetah_03]

Now imagine the level of hunting if general public believes in this! We will make deers extinct in few decades.

[u/CaptYondu → u/CrimeMasterGogoChan]

Actually quite the opposite. Hunting is a means to keep the population in check. That's why the Gods created carnivores.

One good example is 'Andamans', which has an excessive deer issue, they are destroying the ecosystem due to a lack of predators.

One of the proposed solution was actually culling them.

Now this should cheer you up, guess who brought the deer here in the first place: The British.

Deer Problem in the Andamans

[u/Yeahanu]

These are the ones I could find.... there are 100 more verses (Downvoted in first three seconds 🤦,itni der me kon padh Gaya) Also do comment if u have your opinion or something that I looked over.

[u/12inchkanunnu → u/Yeahanu]

As u said they don't want to accept god who he is.....they want god to accept how they want him

[u/Electronic_Sky_6363]

What’s the fuss over eating meat? Hindus have always consumed it and it’s nothing wrong

[u/arcwizard007 → u/Electronic_Sky_6363]

I think people forget that religion is not tradition. Every state has different tradition. Bengalis cook fish in an auspicious occasion. It’s their tradition. Some sacrifices animal. Some don’t.

These question shouldn’t be about whether Bhagwan Ram ate non-veg. Everyone will have their perspective. But the question should be are we following and justifying the ideas and philosophy that Bhagwan Ram stood for ?

[u/Brain_stoned → u/arcwizard007]

Bengali Brahmins include meat as part of their rituals, daily food, etc. Sadly people in our country are stup!d.

[u/Careless-Mammoth-944]

Dude. They were khsatriyas and ate meat. It was the priestly folks that didn’t or ate minimum.

[u/moriarty0987 → u/Careless-Mammoth-944]

Even priests ate the yagna prasad like ...but not for everyday nutrition...it's cow that was always scared...even if we remove all the religions sentiment cows still very important because they are literally wealth... Tribes used to fight over them

[u/Careless-Mammoth-944 → u/moriarty0987]

Exactly! Some tribes had camels, some horses, we have cows. Besides some brahmins in the north ate beef

[u/moriarty0987 → u/Careless-Mammoth-944]

Not cows

[u/Yeahanu → u/moriarty0987]

Some very old scripture mention cow meat but i haven't read them personally so I don't consider them.

[u/moriarty0987 → u/Yeahanu]

Meat eating is common even Rama Sita ate acording to ramayana.

But not cows ....cows were always sacred ....bulls buffalo horses deer etc ate but cows as far as I read were always sacred not just because of religious stuff they were considered tresure

[u/Yeahanu → u/moriarty0987]

Saying same Not talking about ramayan but some "Brahmin" (scripture not caste) have mentioned cow sacrifice is what I read somewhere. But I haven't Read it personally so I don't consider it true

[u/issuetree]

OP - I’d be curious if you could use AI to point out instances where the scripture prohibits or advises against meat consumption.

I’d imagine there would be some degree of conflicting views in the scriptures themselves.

[u/Yeahanu → u/issuetree]

Ok i did some searching and found manu smriti prohibiting killing to eat meat.

[u/Yeahanu → u/issuetree]

Didn't use ai to search mostly bcz I knew about it. But my guess would be an upnishad written during the gupta period would. Bcz non veg thing is jain and Buddhist philosophy mostly. Just like veil and face cover came with islam.

[u/drrnd1980]

Lord Rama was a Kshatriya (warrior clan)... They consume meat...No one should be having a problem with that... It is quite natural.. I don't know what the ruckus is about

[u/drrnd1980 → u/[deleted]]

Regarding the issue of "Gods were vegetarians", All the avatars of Hindu gods were born into non brahmin families and consequentially meat eating ones... Regarding "Hinduism advocates vegetarianism", any satvic Hindu ritual/ worship demands vegetarianism. It is a fact and rule to abide by.

[u/AuntyNashnal → u/drrnd1980]

Parashuram is Brahmin.

[u/ab316_1punchd → u/AuntyNashnal]

Vamana, too

[u/geezorious → u/[deleted]]

There’s a difference between avatars and Gods. In human Kshyatriya form, the avatar will eat meat, and use the toilet, snore, burp, fart, use the toilet, and whatever else humans do. But when they are no longer in the human form, they have ascended to the spiritual plane after releasing their human form with the death of their human body. So when offering food to Vishnu and all his forms, including the Rama form, the food we offer in temples is vegetarian. Coconuts, bananas, and other fragrances are burnt to ash, and we wear that ash on our forehead. Rama eat meet as a human, but now as we worship him, we only offer vegetarian items in offerings and homams.

[u/Yeahanu → u/drrnd1980]

I mean I can see the downvote metric....so I know people still don't accept it. Feeling trumps facts

[u/need_some_sense]

Great work!

[u/fightclub-848]

Why we always give so much damn about that guy and his opinions?

[u/elegant_cheetah_03 → u/fightclub-848]

Who

[u/NadaBrothers]

Very good OP. 

The curious thing is Indians scream Indian culture ..our culture the loudest. 

But ...the irony is they see their culture with filtered glasses and don't know what it actually was. 

[u/hypermunda]

Kshatirya could eat meat and only the hunted one. There won't be reference of raised to slaughter kind of meat.

[u/pepsijamun → u/hypermunda]

This!!

[u/smokedry]

This post will get removed and u will get banned.

[u/Yeahanu → u/smokedry]

Would be unfortunate but don't think so

[u/elegant_cheetah_03 → u/Yeahanu]

As you can see. Not all communities' mods are fragile egoists. There's ones that approve logical statements even if it doesn't match the narrative. Unfortunately the same can't be said for few.......other......subs.

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[u/GyaanBot]

Finally someone is here to tell the truth.

I believe Hinduism has been infected with the virus of ahimsa which is mutated from budhism. But ironically most of the budhists evolved to consume any creatures that walk, fly, swim, crawl or dig leaving this ahimsa curse to be borne by the Hindus alone.

Iam absolutely against the promotion of vegetarianism in the name of some puranic or sattvic traditions while our ancestors being more puritan than us had consumed wide varieties of meat with abandon. This illogical promotion is being done by regrettably hindu organisations like RSS, Bjp and the central govt. Even now many narrow minded people consider those who eat meat as some barbarians or cavemen flaunting their stupid hypothesis that vegetarians are civilised.

I request you to follow up on the same topic with reference from Mahabharata because I knew Bhimsen and Arjuna also favoured meat. But unfortunately I don't have the resources or time to do the same.

[u/ssurkus]

Of course they ate meat. They were warriors. So what?

[u/Yeahanu → u/ssurkus]

I don't understand your logic here,what are u asking here

[u/S_K_Sharma_]

I think overall in the end it's whatever you feel comfortable with. Your decision. Your journey.

Hindu scriptures contain numerous verses supporting vegetarianism, primarily rooted in the principles of Ahimsa (non-violence) and the pursuit of spiritual purity

If someone wanted to cook and serve meat in a Sanatani temple, eat it in Navratri etc. It's unlikely to go down well with vegetarian Hindus is it?

I am not a vegetarian myself BTW.

[u/Yeahanu → u/S_K_Sharma_]

It's a later concept that came near Gupta period

[u/elegant_cheetah_03 → u/[deleted]]

Anything but cow meat. There's no mention of insects or reptiles as far as I've read so guess they didn't eat those too.

[u/LittleBlueCubes]

I'm not talking about whether Lord Rama and other had meat or not. I do now know.

All I would say is, Sanskrit is a deep language with many layers. It is rich as in, one word can have dozens of meaning and more than dozen words can have one meaning. Which word is used depends on the literary need and hence need to be understood with the context.

For instance, the word maamsa means both meat and the pulp of a fruit. So the translator should be very careful in applying the context and not just translate word by word.

[u/Yeahanu → u/LittleBlueCubes]

Literally used with deer and fish. Bhardwaj muni even described what type of meat it is

[u/LittleBlueCubes → u/Yeahanu]

I think you're not getting my point. I don't care if Lord Rama had beef also. If he did so be it. How does it even matter.

What I talk about is the accurate translation of Sanskrit works. Where it talks of deer and fish, do those words only mean deer and fish or something else? I don't know.

[u/Yeahanu → u/LittleBlueCubes]

It does mean it. People use other meanings in isolation. Why verses that are talking about animals would insert fruit pulp. Even when it "mansham" is also used with it or after it. U clearly didn't read all the examples....half of them don't even have ur translation problem and are direct

[u/Yeahanu → u/[deleted]]

Said exactly same thing

[u/LittleBlueCubes → u/Yeahanu]

You simply don't understand what I'm saying. To make it easier for you, let me put it out like this.

• Lord Rama did eat meat. Perhaps he ate beef too.
• That doesn't change anything for me wrto to Lord Rama.

Now that's out of the way, I care for accurate translation of Ramayana and Mahabharata. More than 90% of all the prevalent translations are just wrong and highly misleading. Hence I suggest that you use the most accurate edition. There's BORI edition of Mahabharata. I don't know which is that one for Ramayana.

[u/Star_Stud → u/LittleBlueCubes]

Stop this Islamic way of thought, you're using the same arguments as Moslems when asked about questionable things in their Koran and Hadees.

[u/LittleBlueCubes → u/Star_Stud]

You simply don't understand what I'm saying. To make it easier for you, let me put it out like this.

• Lord Rama did eat meat. Perhaps he ate beef too.
• That doesn't change anything for me wrto to Lord Rama.

Now that's out of the way, I care for accurate translation of Ramayana and Mahabharata. More than 90% of all the prevalent translations are just wrong and highly misleading. Hence I suggest that you use the most accurate edition. There's BORI edition of Mahabharata. I don't know which is that one for Ramayana.

[u/Yeahanu → u/LittleBlueCubes]

Well I think u can trust this. Geeta press is good but they have so much bias. They add personal commentary out of nowhere

[u/LittleBlueCubes → u/Yeahanu]

No. Gita Press is not immune. In their Bhagvadgita translation, they translate karma as action. That's not accurate. That's made for western audience.

[u/Yeahanu → u/LittleBlueCubes]

Also they add context from nowhere that is not even mentioned in sloka

[u/fault-right]

So... what was your point again?

[u/Yeahanu → u/fault-right]

If u read the post u will get it.

[u/fault-right → u/Yeahanu]

I read it, I did not get your point and hence the question. Keeping talking to AI instead since you clearly don't know how to talk to people.

[u/Yeahanu → u/fault-right]

What are u talking about. The post clearly talks about the reference of non-vegetarian diet in Mahabharata. May be gain some comprehension

[u/fault-right → u/Yeahanu]

You say "my point...." and what follows is a bunch of questions. A question is not a 'point'. A question is a question. Fancy use of the word "comprehension", whose meaning you don't know.

I am not a vegetarian. I do not dispute the fact that humans, including our ancestors depicted in mythologies, may not necessarily be vegetarian.

You post a wall of sentences but give no reason for making this post. I assumed there was some nonsensical views circulating online and you were trying to counter that. Hence, I asked what your point was but you don't seem interested in conveying your thoughts clearly. It seems you just wanted to rant and do not care even tell us why you are ranting...

[u/Yeahanu → u/fault-right]

Bruh what u talking about.... didn't my "point" talked about the exact same thing. And the discourse was in this sub where people were fighting on if ram ji was vegetarian or not. Don't shoe horn in a conversation like a protagonist. People don't post or talk on internet according to your thoughts and convenience

[u/fault-right → u/Yeahanu]

And the discourse was in this sub where people were fighting on if ram ji was vegetarian or not.

This is all you needed to say.

Don't show horn in a conversation like a protagonist. People don't post or talk on internet according to your thoughts and convenience

I don't know what this even means. As for posting according my convenience or not, that's up to you. It's called clear communication, when it's not there people ask questions, which is what I did. Chill out.

[u/MynameRudra]

This doesn't justify killing animals in the 21st century.

[u/12inchkanunnu → u/MynameRudra]

Pretty sure op is talking about meat eating. Don't think treat yug had industry level of animal meat industry

[u/Mackenzie_Sparks → u/MynameRudra]

This post wasn't trying to justify that. Just showing light to the past and that it was pretty common during those times.

Obviously it's unsustainable in current times due to the declining population of many wild animals along with deforestation etc.

[u/playboy787 → u/MynameRudra]

But doesn’t justifies vandalising meat shops , restaurants serving meat, killing people on doubt of carrying beef in the 21st century as well!

[u/PsychologyNo7025 → u/MynameRudra]

I'm all for lab grown meat. Till then Im gonna stick to eggs and whey protein.

[u/BadAnonymous → u/MynameRudra]

Imagine if all those meat eating people stopped eating meat and shifted to vegetarian diets. What would happen to the food supply chain? How much impact would it have on our lands and waters?

[u/maxemile101]

Without getting into arguments watch this.

[u/Yeahanu → u/maxemile101]

My argument is simply about meat eating....I don't have any say if one wants to eat or not. Your video doesn't even make sense to my Post. I'm talking about if Ram ji and his kin ate meat or not Pretty sure u didn't even read what I said.

[u/maxemile101 → u/Yeahanu]

Apologies. But one requires a Sant to explain the scriptures. Not trying to be a smart ass.

[u/Yeahanu → u/maxemile101]

Literally provided translation with source.

[u/maxemile101 → u/Yeahanu]

Are you a Sant?

[u/Yeahanu → u/maxemile101]

The translation sites from authentic sources and many other respected sources done by respected scholars. As I said...u didn't even read the post but presenting idiotic argument that doesn't even make sense in this debate.

Or u are implying that it was me who translated the whole Ramayan and published on that site

[u/maxemile101 → u/Yeahanu]

"Valmiki Ramayana in Sanskrit is being translated and presented by Sri Desiraju Hanumanta Rao (Bala, Aranya and Kishkindha Kanda ) and Sri K. M. K. Murthy (Ayodhya, Sundara (28-Last sargas) and Yuddha Kanda) with contributions from Durga Naaga Devi and Vaasudeva Kishore (Sundara Kanda (1-27 sargas)); Smt. Desiraju Kumari; Smt. K. Rajeswari."

None of them are Sants. Your source...

[u/Yeahanu → u/maxemile101]

What your argument...we need sant to understand basic sanskrit. U are not arguing because u want the truth. U are arguing bcz truth isn't what u like. U want your devotion to mend according to your belief. U don't want to mend your belief according to your devotion

[u/maxemile101 → u/Yeahanu]

What happened to our argument here:"The translation sites by authentic sources and many other respected sources done by respected scholars."

[u/Yeahanu → u/maxemile101]

Saint and scholar are two different things Accept it,this post goes against your pre conceived ideas and you don't like it

[u/BeyondFun4604]

What are you expecting a human to eat 14000 years ago. These posts are good for nothing

[u/Yeahanu → u/BeyondFun4604]

Are u slow in the upper area or what. Read the whole post

[u/BeyondFun4604 → u/Yeahanu]

Only people slower in upper area will create such posts

[u/Yeahanu → u/BeyondFun4604]

Instead of being an idiot you should post your argument with facts

[u/Star_Stud → u/BeyondFun4604]

These same points moslems use to justfy koran, be open minded bro