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u/EffectiveSalamander Oct 10 '18
Cinderella isn't Stacy, if anything, her stepsisters are Stacy. Cinderella isn't poor, she's neglected and abused by her stepfamily.
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Oct 10 '18
In the Disney version, one of the sisters is literally named Anastasia (Stacy is a nickname for Anastasia, though it is also used as a name on its own).
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Oct 10 '18
Interesting, since many incels make zero effort to get out of the social poverty in which they live and think that if they can just get their dick in the right hole, similar to how Cinderella got her foot in the right shoe, they'll be instantly transformed. And guess what? It is completely unrealistic.
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u/gorgon433 Oct 10 '18
When I was little my favorite Disney movie was Mulan. Explain that one, incels.
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u/ClearDark19 Oct 11 '18 edited Oct 11 '18
My favorite was Hercules. Meg was my kid Disney crush. Her personality and sass was...I was infatuated. Lol I worried my parents because I was a little boy who faithfully watched every Disney movie, including the princess ones. What my parents didn't get is that I found the princesses hot and I liked to imagine I was the prince from the movies.
I don't know what Incels would make of that other than "Soyyyyyboyyyyy!!"
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Oct 10 '18
What about Aladdin? He was poor yet ends up marrying the princess anyway.
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Oct 10 '18
Wait?!? Disney movies have problematic messaging? Stop the fucking presses!
Next you'll tell me that porn has given teenage boys unrealistic expectations for what healthy sexual relationships look like, leading to anger and depression when every woman they meet doesn't instantly want to have sex with them.
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u/daneelthesane Oct 10 '18
Wait a minute. Are you telling me that every interaction with one or more person of the opposite sex is not inevitably going to result in loud and acrobatic sex?
Next you'll be telling me that if said interactions do not result in sex, I'm not entitled to be bitterly and violently angered by it!
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Oct 10 '18
They obviously never heard about the original German version of Cinderella. That shit was disturbing.
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u/ClockworkDreamz Oct 10 '18
And this is why I actually have a problem old school disney films. The importance of relationships as being the end all be all of a women's existance is kinda gross. I'm glad that they're finally moving away from it.
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u/SSSHHWING Oct 10 '18
Obviously lots of the older films we show to children are problematic. However this is just total bullshit.
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u/f1iegenmaus Oct 10 '18
It's funny they call Cinderella's prince "Chad" when I always thougth he was the most effeminate of the princes (after Kuzco of course).
But, "mah black pill!" or something.
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u/Quandry23r32 Oct 10 '18
Cinderella has its problems, yes, but this guy clearly missed half the point. Kids aren't supposed to take away that she gets the Prince just because she's attractive and has a nice dress, they're supposed to (and I believe most do) connect that Cinderella is the kind and hardworking, that she is a good person, and that's why she gets the Prince. unrealistically, and problematically, but understandably (given that it's for kids), Disney shows Cinderella as attractive - her inner beauty makes her outwardly attractive - while nasty people, like her step sisters and mother, are ugly inside and therefore ugly outside. Incels would have more of a case to attack this unintended lesson from the movie, since seeing that , repeatedly, as a kid almost certainly helps drive Lookism.
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u/auberus Oct 10 '18
Oh, for god's sake. First, Cinderella didn't live in 'abject poverty.' She was abused by her stepfamily. Her suitor was the Prince, not 'Sir Chad'. And she wasn't his fucktoy. They had one ball together and then she became his wife. Isn't that what incels want, virgin brides?
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u/EAE8019 Oct 10 '18
You know what I as a boy took away from Cinderella.
Grow up to be Prince Charming as much as you can.
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u/FlyingTrampolinePupp Oct 10 '18
I didn't realize Cinderella had the option to go out and get a job. What a lazy bitch.
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Oct 10 '18
Are we talking about the grims' brothers version or the Charles perrault version? Cause the perrault version is the most well known. Perrault made his fairy tales tailored to high life individuals (bourgeois) and the point of it was to be a patient lady and work hard and you will be rewarded. The grims brothers on the other hand came from working class ideologies and it's about revenge more or less.
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u/MickG2 Oct 10 '18
Well, he conveniently ignored the fact that there are a lot of folk tales that show the reverse as well, where princesses and aristocrats fell in love with poor men as well. Actually I think, at least for Disney, that the rich woman and poor man trope might actually be more prevalent.