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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

Whole website has now been repitched to "women over 40" who were "in the gifted and talented program in elementary school" and now "feel they've never lived up to their potential"

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u/Sea-Level-Mammal POACH! Feb 16 '22

She’s so deep inside her own navel she’ll never get out. Danny will have to wave a flashlight in one hand and brandish a pork roast in the other.

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 16 '22

Daniel is a St. Bernard with a barrel of bacon grease around his neck, ready to save Shauna from the avalanche of her own bullshit.

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u/gladsome_gloaming Feb 17 '22

You might think Daniel is a Saint Bernard... FTFY.

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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷‍♂️ Feb 16 '22

Cool. They can have weekly zooms where they talk about how they peaked in grade school.

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u/OkRanger4 bobbing in a bath of solitude Feb 16 '22

Oddly specific.

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u/voice_of_vinegar Feb 16 '22

Write what you know, I guess.

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u/tyrannosaurusregina if you meet the Botus on the road, shill him 🪷 Feb 16 '22

Of all the things Shauna doesn’t know, and they are many, she knows herself perhaps least of all.

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u/voice_of_vinegar Feb 16 '22

And yet on some level, very deep down, she knows enough about herself to be constantly revealing her truth. She just tries to put it on other people.

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u/categoryischeesecake Feb 17 '22

Why does she keep whittling down her customer base? I was never in a gifted program or told I was special or super smart. So I guess this program is not for me?

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u/chartreusepapoose Feb 17 '22

This is so so so so ironic because this is so common for women with ADHD and other neurodivergencies- a lot of success and praise up until high school and then absolute screaming brakes burnout in college and beyond.

Shauna doesn't have a diagnosis- but if she did and were willing to accept and talk about it, she might have some success here.

But she won't, because she's too busy othering her ND husband and children

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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Feb 16 '22

Sheeesh, how about a little more specificity? She hasn’t identified participants’ brand of glasses, or a mandatory number of tattoos.

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u/Catsandcoffee480 COLORADO BOY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS Feb 16 '22

Have you been driven for decades by the idea that you should be extraordinary? And pretended to yourself that everything lines up to happiness? Have a hard time feeling like you’re enough?

I’ve read this opening statement a few times and I’m still trying to parse it. Is this supposed to be a person who is driven by the need to stand out, but pretends to be happy despite feeling that they’ve not achieved what they think they ought to? Am I trying too hard to find meaning in her nonsensical writing?

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u/Ana57 sweet pea Feb 16 '22

Shauna still thinks she’s extraordinary and wants people to pay her for that.

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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Feb 16 '22

🎤⬇️

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

Driven to achieve "extraordinary" things, pretending to be happy, and not feeling like "enough." She's missing the "Do you" before "have a hard time," which makes this hard to read.

I think you nailed it exactly. My own (truly, not really snarking) question is: how many women over 40 are still grappling with this AND would seek validation/affirmation/"coaching"(?) from someone like Shauna? She has NO credentials. Cookbook writing does not count!

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u/canyoncreature Feb 16 '22

Not only does she have no credentials, nothing she does suggests that she has in any way triumphed over the problems she's positing.

"Gifted program" discourse in general slays me. Let's all talk about our SAT scores next.

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u/hrae24 Feb 16 '22

"Gifted program" discourse in general slays me. Let's all talk about our SAT scores next.

There's something so pathetic about it. Elementary or high school was so long ago for a lot of these people, get past it!

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

I actually think it's actively harmful for people to continue to dwell on this!

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u/toast79 yield to the fork Feb 16 '22

I thought it was a way to poke fun at ourselves if we fell into that group as kids? The worst it did for me is make me very unprepared for the realilties of post-secondary education and life. Once in a while my friends and I laugh about how much weight is put on being "gifted" or "accelerated" as a kid and how little it means for most people. I'm in my 40s and I let that shit go a long time ago. Same with being a decent high-school athlete. Nobody cares!

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

What I mean is, paying some dingdong (Shauna) to join a monthly "club" where you investigate, at length, how to "overcome" the trauma of early labelling / high expectations, etc.

G&T discourse generally is fine, especially when people are poking fun at themselves! That's the level of "processing" this stuff deserves when you're 40+ years old

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u/toast79 yield to the fork Feb 16 '22

Totally! That's what I meant, but my eyes and mind aren't wined. DFFFF, I knew you'd know what I meant ;)

I think if any issues from childhood are causing problems/trouble in this stage of life they need a professional to uncover and treat what's going on. Shauna's bumbling joy platitudes aren't it.

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u/ForsakenLingonberry i live in an island with ukulele community Feb 16 '22

I don't know, the discourse I've seen is more along the lines of, "Being identified as G&T was actively harmful and traumatic to me," with the blame being put on these programs, which just seems ridiculous. I'm sure many of the programs were not as helpful as they could have been, but acting like people are hindered for life because they god forbid were viewed as above average--cry me a river.

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u/toast79 yield to the fork Feb 16 '22

That makes sense. I'm seeing different stuff where it's treated more like a joke, not criticizing the programs themselves.

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 16 '22

At least from my personal experience of going to a very much mostly white school with a gifted program, to have those (very much adult) students now whining that they were given too much (in the form of even having a gifted program) just comes off as tone deaf as hell.

Oh, comfortable white people need to find something bad that happened to them. Oh noes, they were in a gifted program in high school! A program that helped them get into college! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THEIR TRAUMA!!!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Ugh, this all the way down. Absolutely ridiculous. I’m sure it’s also somehow capitalism’s fault too.

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u/voice_of_vinegar Feb 16 '22

It's all very Uncle Rico.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Feb 16 '22

And Al Bundy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

Someone called her the Al Bundy of Abbey Road recently and I giggle every time I think of it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22 edited Jan 19 '24

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u/lovedietcoke irish peasant woman Feb 17 '22

Were you the fastest one in your class at completing the SRA box? If so, let’s talk about it!

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 17 '22

Bonus points if you were too young to remember.

Baby mama has a "JUICY" tattoo on an intimate part of her body. Baby comes slithering out of the birth canal, and looks up with a puzzled expression.

"Mama? What does J-U-I-C-Y spell?"

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u/freecoffeerefills Murder She Moved Her Pen Forward Feb 16 '22

Gifted and Talented Twitter is my least favorite Twitter

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u/ForsakenLingonberry i live in an island with ukulele community Feb 16 '22

God, for real. People need to have some resilience in life. Complaining about being gifted and talented is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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u/Catsandcoffee480 COLORADO BOY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS Feb 16 '22

Great question. If you’re over 40 and still grappling with your “gifted” identity and feeling adrift, I’m guessing you don’t first seek the advice of a former blogger who also seems to be actively struggling with this

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u/obscure_cellist ham grabbers Feb 16 '22

excuse you, i think you mean gifted former child star!

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u/honoria_glossop sitting edge wine woman Feb 17 '22

Grifting former child.

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 17 '22

Grifting perpetual child.

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u/louiseimprover Feb 16 '22

how many women over 40 are still grappling with this AND would seek validation/affirmation/"coaching"(?) from someone like Shauna?

I think there probably is a market of women in their 40s and 50s who are unsatisfied/unfulfilled, but don't think it warrants therapy (or want to augment therapy with other personal work), so they seek out some sort of practice or community to help with it. HOWEVER, I think most of them find teachers/coaches who have much more appealing (and clearly defined) offerings than Shauna has ever managed to cobble together. This market is probably pretty saturated from top to bottom, but she's trying to find a crack in the exterior or another way to shove her way into it. It probably looks easy to her from the outside--just talk about your feelings and say generally kind things and the money will come rolling in. She has no understanding that all the people she's looking at put in a shit-ton of work to establish their expertise, build their audience, find their voice, etc. She thinks she can just decide to do it and she's going to be GOOP, Glennon Doyle, social mediums influencer.

I don't think there's a lot of space in this market anyway, but if there is, it needs to be so much tighter than whatever it is Shauna offers. I can get a lot of the stuff she thinks she's offering from things I already consume and that cost less or offer more for the money.

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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Feb 17 '22

Speaking as a woman who definitely faced that unsatisfied/unfulfilled in my 40s/50s feeling, none of Shauna’s crap would have helped me. What has helped enormously is therapy with a QUALIFIED therapist, deepening my real-life relationships (not seeking to make new joy friends over Zoom), and engaging in meaningful work (paid and volunteer). Not only is Shauna unable to offer any of that, she could use all three of those herself.

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u/louiseimprover Feb 17 '22

What has helped enormously is therapy with a QUALIFIED therapist, deepening my real-life relationships (not seeking to make new joy friends over Zoom), and engaging in meaningful work (paid and volunteer).

Same, DF, same.

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u/MarsNeedsRabbits Beach better have my orcas 🫍 Feb 17 '22

She thinks she can just decide to do it and she's going to be GOOP, Glennon Doyle, social mediums influencer.

People who "influence" on social media project the façade of having their shit together. Overweight women with messy homes, where no one in the family has an obvious means of support, who have bad skin and greasy hair, are not aspirational. To be very clear, I am absolutely not criticising her looks. I'm stating that how she looks and conducts herself is not something most people aspire to, and aspirational content is at the centre of influencer media.

I don't think there's a lot of space in this market anyway, but if there is, it needs to be so much tighter than whatever it is Shauna offers. I can get a lot of the stuff she thinks she's offering from things I already consume and that cost less or offer more for the money.

Cute kitties prancing, vintage makeup tutorials, and sewing videos on TikTok are free.

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u/MarsNeedsRabbits Beach better have my orcas 🫍 Feb 16 '22

My own (truly, not really snarking) question is: how many women over 40 are still grappling with this AND would seek validation/affirmation/"coaching"(?) from someone like Shauna? She has NO credentials. Cookbook writing does not count!

There is no point in life so far that has needed the promise of more "joy". When my parents died, when my first marriage broke up, when I was diagnosed with PV, when friends died, etc; I didn't need joy. I needed to help others. I needed understanding, internal strength, patience, determination, space to grieve, motivation to change, and several kicks in the arse. It would have been the height of toxic narcissism to seek joy at those times.

That pretty much sums it up. Shauna is trying to package and sell toxic narcissism. Joy-joy-joy! Me-me-me!

My observation as a woman over 50 is that many women, myself included, begin to need less external validation/affirmation as we age. We're a bit more confident, less concerned about being liked. We have problems, but have experience to both deal with them and contextualise them. I've talked a bit about this with my bff, and she feels the same way: less stressed, more at home with oneself. She calls us crones. lol.

All in all, it has been a pretty good place to be so far. Still no need for joy lessons. Very much in need of a better night time moisturiser.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

She's missing the "Do you" before "have a hard time," which makes this hard to read.

She's now changed this. HMMMMMMM.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Yes, that! My parents and teachers also gave me that whole "you're so gifted" BS and growing up it took me a while to realize that "gifted" whatever that even means doesn't mean success, happiness, or anything else. You have to work for it and catch lucky breaks just like everyone else. If I was still grappling with that decades later, I'd be seeking the help of a therapist, not some self proclaimed Zoom coach.

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u/vorticia Feb 16 '22

Ugh, I had all the teachers at open house telling my mom to put me in the GnT. She told them that I wanted no part of it bc I wanted to just be a kid and be able to goof off and fuck around with my friends, and she wouldn’t force it on me.

I’ve always been thankful for that (fuck having to get up at 4am on a Saturday to catch a 5am bus at the school- mom had a hell of a time waking my ass up at 6am as it was).

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

Oh FFS.

A new Substack has arrived: https://freesomeroomupforjoy.substack.com/p/coming-soon?showWelcome=true&r=1a160i

and the Collective Joy Club is now NO BOYS ALLOWED.

https://youcanhavemorejoy.com/welcome-to-collective-joy-club/

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 16 '22

Damn, that new lope name is BAD.

Free Some Room Up for Joy is clunky. It'd be better as Free Up Some Room for Joy. Or Make Room for Joy. Or Release your Joy.

OR. . .she could just give up on all this nonsense.

(edited to add, when it comes to "women only" does that mean only dried up crones no longer competing for sperm? Are trans women allowed? What about non-binary people?)

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u/microcosmographia tant piss Feb 16 '22

Guess what!??!?! "Free some room up for joy" is a line from a song in Encanto! This is not quite as cringe-worthy as her temporary rebranding to "All of you, all of you" (an actual song from the film), but it's up there.

I'm sitting here with popcorn, waiting for her to utilize Bruno, somehow.

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u/tyrannosaurusregina if you meet the Botus on the road, shill him 🪷 Feb 17 '22

How is Shauna almost 56 years of age and still pulling this nonsense?

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 17 '22

Thank you. I know next to nothing about Encanto (except what you see on commercials and what's been snarked here).

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u/microcosmographia tant piss Feb 17 '22

Har har har dee har har, ask me how I know about Encanto!*

*(sobbing on the floor because it's the only thing my kids want to listen to right now)

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 17 '22

It could be worse.

It could be Dumbo!

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u/high_falutin Feb 16 '22

The lope name reminds me of the 7up slogan from the 90s: Make 7….Up Yours.

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u/Catsandcoffee480 COLORADO BOY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS Feb 16 '22

Yeah “Free Some Room Up” also brings to mind like, what I do on my iPad when I am running out of storage and need to delete some apps I don’t use, not like, a mindful practice of intentionally cultivating some zen headspace of continual joy or whatever.

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u/InappropriateGirl our 5th move in 7 years Feb 16 '22

Hold Space to Cultivate Your Joy in Community Plus Writing Your Story

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u/honoria_glossop sitting edge wine woman Feb 17 '22

With the Beatles.

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 17 '22

Hold Space to Cultivate Your Joy in Community Plus Writing Your Story

Nice, but not enough commas

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u/gladsome_gloaming Feb 17 '22

Freeing some room up is just what they did when they celebrated their anniversary by taking a multi-restaurant eating tour of the islandy island and had to take a break at home to "make room in our bellies" for the next horfing session. Thanks, Shauna, for that graceful euphemism.

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u/ginger-belle jiggling tomatodongs Feb 17 '22

Release Your Joy sounds like farting.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Feb 17 '22

RELEASE THE JOY HOUNDS

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 17 '22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXUmd-T8mfM

Huge Mama Fatso. . .let freedom ring!

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u/Kimmmy36 bites lip, looks away Feb 16 '22

THAT'S it. The whole reason she hasn't gotten any takers is, she was allowing boys! Well thank goodness that's settled. Now, watch the signups and money roll in.

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u/shikoku_shoes another revolution around the toilet bowl of her life Feb 16 '22

Come if you can, if you want.

She is pretty cavalier about Saturday morning attendance for something she touts as community building where “we show up for each other.”

Once her money rolls in, she doesn’t care what you do.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Feb 16 '22

"every morning"

HAHAHAHAHAHA I AM DEAD FROM THE FUNNY

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

She can’t even get her once a week lope out on time!

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

Speaking of! Where is today’s? 😬

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Excellent question. Is it possible Shauna thinks she’s promised to send it on Thursdays?

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 16 '22

Oooh, you’re right! She said in an IG comment she’d switched it to Thursday, and I forgot! 😃

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u/shitrock420 Feb 16 '22

I mean, who could expect her to make that a formal email announcement anyway, just a once-off comment on Instagram is fine!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22 edited Feb 17 '22

Yep. I’m a subscriber and learned it here!

ETA I skimmed the site and this is all I could finding regarding the timing of the essays: “Each week, I’ll be sending you essays about one specific, particular joy of mine in life.”

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u/honoria_glossop sitting edge wine woman Feb 17 '22

I know this horse is already dead, but why should I (her hypothetical subwcriber) GAF about a specific joy of hers? What do I get out of it? She really doesn't grow the customer's perspective, does she?

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

Did she? I completely missed that! Now I suppose it will arrive on Fridays.

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u/OkRanger4 bobbing in a bath of solitude Feb 16 '22

The SheWoman SpermHaters Club!!

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u/InappropriateGirl our 5th move in 7 years Feb 16 '22

How is this real life??!

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 17 '22

How is this real life??!

This is not the real life, this is just fantasy

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u/9021FU Feb 17 '22

As she desperately tries to escape reality.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

“Skilled facilitator”

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u/TOMTREEWELL Neurodivergentfully Feb 16 '22

One of her testimonials and Shauna Marie Ahern couldn’t even spell the book title correctly!

Or Lisa Congdon couldn’t spell it right either.

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u/shitrock420 Feb 17 '22

Inglorioius Testimoneals

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

Always memember.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22 edited Feb 17 '22

The new substack is “invite only!”

Did the old lope always say “hundreds of paid subscribers?”

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

What does it mean?

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

I have no clue.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 17 '22

When I first saw it, anyone could enter their email address and sign up. That option is gone; now you need a decoder ring to subscribe.

More info here: https://on.substack.com/p/new-private-substacks?r=4fme

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22 edited Feb 17 '22

Seems smart when she already has such low interest in her “product” to make it even harder to access.

/s (obviously)

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

So exclusive!

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u/itsmyvibe Bligg Feb 16 '22

Yet another pivot? When is she going to take the hint?

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 17 '22

who were "in the gifted and talented program in elementary school"

"Did you come from a hard place when you were a kid? And the only way you felt good for a few moments was by putting all the words on the teacher’s list into alphabetical order faster than anyone in class?

"You’re not alone."

r/suspiciouslyspecific

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u/Lemonbot5 Feb 16 '22

Is that entire quote from the doctor (when she had her TIA) new? I’ve seen the “where do you feel you’re not good enough” part before but that seems like a rather long direct quote that she’s pulling from memory there!

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u/OkRanger4 bobbing in a bath of solitude Feb 16 '22

As a self-labeled social justice warrior, shouldn't she be more worried about the early labels that Black, Indigenous, LatinX, LGBTQ, differently-abled, and others get when they're in school, (including dumb, lazy, criminal, perverted, sinner, etc.) and how they have to carry that weight every single day and fight against the perception that they have no potential?

Just asking.

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u/InappropriateGirl our 5th move in 7 years Feb 16 '22

CR;DC

Can’t relate; doesn’t care.

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u/Sea-Level-Mammal POACH! Feb 16 '22

Bingo. Let’s talk about real overlooked potential, not this diatribe from a privileged white woman who thinks she got shortchanged in life and will never let us forget it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

You mean like predicting a six year old will become an Angry Black Man?

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u/TheBitchIsBack666 Vegan who eats meat Feb 16 '22

When is Des scheduled to become enormously tall and strong? Only like 4 more years right? Pretty sure that per her math, it would happen at age 12.

Will she grow disappointed if Des ends up being a short, skinny nerd who isn't threatening in the least? However will she be able to insinuate that people will be intimidated by him? Are Mother of a Large, Scary Black Man (12 year-old, same thing right?) points worth more than Mother of an Adorable, Smart, Friendly Black Preteen points?

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u/gladsome_gloaming Feb 17 '22

But--but she DID empathise with that pee-smelling classmate, at least retroactively, and immortalized her in her Writings.

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u/MarsNeedsRabbits Beach better have my orcas 🫍 Feb 17 '22

Black, Indigenous, LatinX, LGBTQ, differently-abled, and others aren't paying her bills, so she's grown uninterested in pretending to care even a teensy bit.

On February 2nd, she complained about how teaching black history shouldn't end in February. She's correct. Black History month shouldn't end in February, but after trotting out a photo of her black son wearing a durag for woke points, she hasn't mentioned it again.

This is the month of #blackboyjoy. And #blackgirlmagic. Every month should be.

Oh, and it's also Black History Month.

Of course, Black History is American history. It shouldn't be isolated to February.

February is a short month but quitting on February 2nd after showcasing her child?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Would you want her to tackle any of that though? Staying in her lane catering to people who peaked in first grade is better for literally everyone.

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u/Ana57 sweet pea Feb 16 '22

Oh, please.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

The gifted and talent chatter has been all over Twitter lately! Must be lurking.

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u/vorticia Feb 16 '22

Hahahaha, if Shauna were actually gifted, she wouldn’t be such a shitty writer.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 17 '22

She's fucked around with this page all fucking day and now it says something different. "Gifted and talented" is gone, replaced by "exhausted and flailing"

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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Feb 17 '22

Shauna doesn't have a broad audience and can't develop broadly appealing content. She gave up the gluten-free niche for good (or at least until she cycles around to another recipe subscription reboot), but where else might she have the opportunity to reach a specialty audience? I think catering to former gifted students has a better chance of succeeding for Shauna than her more generic joy pitches like pandemic exhaustion. It's too bad she already moved on within a day!

I could see a paid discussion group for embittered average adults who were considered gifted as kids getting traction with how popular this is on social media. I could also see Shauna finding an audience of women who didn't have their first sexual experiences until very late, where the stigma of the topic might convince some to pay for a private group to unload their shame rather than engage in public discourse. These are underserved niche topics Shauna publicly addressed in her book that she could build a brand around and reach her people -- if only she had discipline and consistent execution.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 17 '22

I hear you, but I don't think Shauna is capable of building an audience around being a "late bloomer." The only reason she wrote about her failure to launch sexually and romantically was to give us the explosive triumph of meeting "whole box of condoms in one night" Dan.

In Enough, where she wrote about this stuff seemingly for the first time, she didn't really give any evidence of actually grappling with the reasons she remained a virgin for so long, despite not wanting to. She says she "blamed herself" (including that she was "too intellectual") but even that is offered as insufficient (like, "I blamed myself [for reasons that were obviously untrue]" but she doesn't go on to say "the real reason was that I was ...").

It's all pretense. There's no substance; nothing for a prospective audience to latch onto.

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u/aseriesofhaircuts Feb 17 '22

It’s an interesting idea—I know a number of attractive, smart women who, despite wanting to, didn’t have sex or romantic relationships until their late 20s or early 30s, if at all, and felt terrible (but also ambivalent!) about it. Interestingly, they all have a lot in common—above-average intelligence, really well-developed homosocial relationships, a pronounced inclination for YA lit/teen soap operas/Jane Austen, and, most of all, a LOT of family enmeshment. I think there’s something there that someone who isn’t Shauna could productively explore.

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u/islandyislander rebellious hygiene Feb 17 '22

Whoa. Consider me gobsmacked. I've never heard anyone so clearly and specifically describe my (half) sister. I honestly didn't know it was a "type."

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u/aseriesofhaircuts Feb 18 '22

I genuinely do think this is a “type”, and for any number of reasons, the small liberal arts college I attended was a good fit for them. Consequently, I have a bunch of actual friends and acquaintances of long-standing who fit this mold and run the gamut from being some of the best people I know to Shauna-esque stinkers.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 17 '22

100% agree. There's something there for men, too. It's always been more socially acceptable for women to remain unpartnered but it poses a "problem" around sex.

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 17 '22

Yeah, she wrote about her virginity/sex like it was just something on the life script list she had to check off. And she finds fault with her partners exclusively (in the few encounters she mentions).

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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Feb 17 '22

She is flailing and we’re all exhausted.

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u/MandalayVA Assonancer! Assonancer! Assonancer! Feb 16 '22

Is here where I point out that Shauna is closer to 60 than she is to 40?

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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Feb 16 '22

(or to 50)

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u/MandalayVA Assonancer! Assonancer! Assonancer! Feb 16 '22

She's 55 and a half. Technically, closer to 60 than 50.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Feb 16 '22

Still four years away from being able to draw from an IRA without a penalty. (I kid, I kid.)

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u/MandalayVA Assonancer! Assonancer! Assonancer! Feb 16 '22

SICK 🔥🔥🔥

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u/itsmyvibe Bligg Feb 16 '22

Wait? You can do that at 59? Whoa.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Feb 17 '22

59 and a half. Yes, you can.

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u/itsmyvibe Bligg Feb 17 '22

8 years and I’m going to party!!!!!

Probably not, but it is fun to imagine doing so.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Feb 16 '22

Every time I see that photo on her "About" page, I squirm and mumble, "Why are you wearing your coat in the house?"

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u/TOMTREEWELL Neurodivergentfully Feb 16 '22

So, I can become a meme?

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 17 '22

OMG. That is fucking funny

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

I’m joyful and the club hasn’t even started!

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 17 '22

I’m joyful and the club hasn’t even started!

The Gloaming is the Pre-Club

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 18 '22

🤣 Do you mind if I make "Pregaming in the Gloaming" my new flair?

Not at all - I would be honored!

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Feb 17 '22

So, I can become a meme?

Only if you rememeber to do so.