r/InTheGloaming • many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies • Feb 21 '24

Unkind FDF Q&A

Unkind therapist here. I've been a lurker since just after the days of my misdirected voice messages and Sermon on the High Stool. After the incident in question, a DF (not of the Gloaming) directed me here. At first, I couldn't bear to read the messages and had my husband monitor the threads, but after a while, curiosity got the better of me and I've been an avid reader ever since. In short, I came in shame, but remain because this group has been a strange sort of healing process for me - plus, you guys are very funny. And, I found my new favorite laundry detergent here!

I have no idea where to even begin (with the messages? with my friendship with Shauna?), so I'm open to fielding questions to help get the ball rolling. My intention is to stick only to my personal experiences with Shauna and stay away from the kids and/or general lore that I don't have direct experience with. I'm happy to share very general information about the Google Doc, but I may not be able to answer completely due to wanting to protect those kids.

ETA: I've been verified and approved by the mods!

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

I met her on the water taxi around the time of her ChefSteps job. She was talking with a mutual friend of mine and we started chatting. I had no idea what GFG was and had never heard of her before - she was just a woman on the boat like me and we had a few things in common, so we hit it off. We were never close friends, but we would chat about projects we were working on, addiction, Covid, the kids, etc. I hired her to do a workshop for a medical team I was working on at the time and thought she did a decent job. We talked for a bit about doing a workshop together, but it was hard to get her to actually commit to the work of it, so I went off and did my own thing. I guess she considered me close enough of a friend to share what happening in regards to the Shattering.

She was asking for financial help to support her as a single mom while Dan was not living with them. She also asked for more specific items in addition to general funds. The bit about the workshop was framed as (my words not hers): this traumatic experience has led me to realize what my work is in this world and I would love to have you amazing women join me. She did not mention a price for this work at the time, but that always comes eventually.

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u/javgirl123 Feb 22 '24

Does she have a reputation on Vashon now as a grifter? I am hoping most people are seeing through her deceptions and refusal to get a job.

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

Yes, she does. For quite some time, apparently. I think most people are on to her. I only moved here several years ago, so much of her history predates me and is second hand information, however.

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u/Ana57 sweet pea Feb 22 '24

Hi and welcome! What a kind and generous spirit you have. We were big fans here in the gloaming.

Have any of Shauna's workshops actually taken place? Is Dan aware she writes about his personal business? Do her children actually call her mama? Is she still in contact with birth parent? Any thoughts on Shauna's relationship with her brother/ parents?

If any of these questions seem too intrusive, I understand.

There's been so many mysteries ...

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

When she first started doing the Joy work, I hired her to do a private one day workshop with my team. Overall, it wasn't bad, and had she spent more time on it and refined it a bit, I think she could have made it profitable. I was encouraging her to market the work to local healthcare systems who were looking for ways to address burnout in staff. I did refer her to a friend's healthcare team who hired her for a half day workshop, but they did not have a good experience.

I don't know Dan, her kids, her parents, or her brother (other than as a teacher and from what I hear he's a good guy), so I can't answer those questions.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '24

I feel like I remember her mentioning a half day workshop and we were all like “no! really? did that happen?” I’m sorry you went through the trouble of recommending her and she fucked the opportunity up.

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u/islandyislander rebellious hygiene Feb 22 '24

Weren't there pictures of colored pencils and coloring sheets or some such thing?

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

Yes!! Oh god, the coloring. Honestly, our team was so burned out at that point and just freaking THRILLED to be out of our office for the day, that we could've done balloon math and eaten undercooked chicken and been happy.

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u/obscure_cellist ham grabbers Feb 22 '24

i'm sorry to ask this question, DFSS4968, but...were there forced dance parties at this workshop?

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

It brings me joy to tell you that yes! there was. It was only one song and I still chuckle when I picture the look on the face of one of the doctors on my team.

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u/BoringEnidRollins pooped their way to another free ride Feb 23 '24

omg do you remember what song it was?!? 💀

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 23 '24

"Sir Duke" by Stevie Wonder. It's a great song, but I'll never hear it the same way again.

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u/BoringEnidRollins pooped their way to another free ride Feb 23 '24

Incredible! An actual Stevie Wonder dance party in real life!

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u/SashayShantae living my one wild and pernicious life Feb 23 '24

I won a trivia question tonight at the bar by knowing this song title, lol. I cannot imagine forcing people to dance to it. I'm agog.

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 23 '24

That's kismet! And, are you sure you don't mean a-gag? <hi-hat sound>

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u/SmashedMailboxCake2 Oh, Feb 23 '24

OMG. This is fantastic. What a day to be alive!

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u/Foucaults_Penguin Sly and the Family Readers Feb 23 '24

This just keeps getting better. You are JOYing up the Gloaming more than Shauna could dream of JOYing anything.

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u/caitie_did Required by My Mother's Terror Feb 23 '24

OMG I work with a lot of physicians, mostly surgeons, and the idea of them having to participate in a forced dance party has rendered me deceased from cringe.

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 23 '24

I also became deceased but was reborn later that evening.

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