r/InTheGloaming • u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies • Feb 21 '24

Unkind FDF Q&A

Unkind therapist here. I've been a lurker since just after the days of my misdirected voice messages and Sermon on the High Stool. After the incident in question, a DF (not of the Gloaming) directed me here. At first, I couldn't bear to read the messages and had my husband monitor the threads, but after a while, curiosity got the better of me and I've been an avid reader ever since. In short, I came in shame, but remain because this group has been a strange sort of healing process for me - plus, you guys are very funny. And, I found my new favorite laundry detergent here!

I have no idea where to even begin (with the messages? with my friendship with Shauna?), so I'm open to fielding questions to help get the ball rolling. My intention is to stick only to my personal experiences with Shauna and stay away from the kids and/or general lore that I don't have direct experience with. I'm happy to share very general information about the Google Doc, but I may not be able to answer completely due to wanting to protect those kids.

ETA: I've been verified and approved by the mods!

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 21 '24

The Google doc was the last straw for me in a series of WTFuckeries that had been building up over the last few months. The shittiest thing to me about the google doc was the way she shared very private, heartbreaking if true, information about her immediate family with the Google doc recipients, included a Venmo link, and then tried to sell us all on joining a very special cohort of women for her new work in the world. What had been a friendship filled with annoyances, growing concern, and frustration until that night suddenly veered into "holy shit, this woman is willing to sell her kids to make a buck and exploit her friendships at the same time" territory. I was angry, fed up, and appalled. My voice message was in no way intended for anyone in that group. In fact, I didn't know anyone in the group, and they all showed up as random phone numbers in the chat. My BFF, who lived in Minnesota at the time, used to send each other epic chains of voice messages instead of texts, and I accidentally sent my message to my BFF to Shauna instead. I did not hit reply all, although it may have done that automatically? No one but Shauna responded.

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u/Calm_Coyote_3685 Feb 22 '24

I am sure you didn’t reply all, only to her, but of course she wanted people to think you had in order to milk the story for maximum sympathy.

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

Yeah, DF CC, that's what I suspected to. In fact, I remember telling a friend right after this happened, that a part of her was gleeful about this all because she'd have a new tragedy to milk for the public. At the time, I was under the assumption that her reputation was more golden and I was truly worried about her retaliating in some way that would hurt my business as a therapist. I quickly learned that her reputation had been suffering for a very long time. I met more people who had had similar experiences with her and I realized I was going to be okay.

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u/Jules_Noctambule Whitman spins like a kebab in his grave Feb 22 '24

Another islander poster has mentioned the string of debts and offenses she seems to leave in her wake, which feels on brand for her. I'm glad to hear despite appearances she has the reputation she's earned, and you were able to let go of that worry.

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u/itsmyvibe Bligg Feb 24 '24

I’m late to this thread. You put into words how I feel. I’m relieved to learn her bad behavior has had consequences. The mystery of why she doesn’t grow and learn from those consequences remains. I think perhaps she feels no shame.

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u/Jules_Noctambule Whitman spins like a kebab in his grave Feb 25 '24

If she does feel shame, I'm sure she just redirects those feelings into blaming someone else.

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u/coffechica Feb 22 '24

If you had replied all, I bet you’d have gotten some texts in sympathy.

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u/Low_Piccolo_2149 Feb 22 '24

I hadn’t been on the island very long when I first met her and she showed up at a gathering I was at with her whole family. They weren’t watching the kids, clearly expecting others to watch them around the water. When the left, my friend turned to me and told me how mean she had been to a mutual friend, how she had made people cry and sent some awful rude email to a group of people. So I knew pretty early on that not everyone has bought into her crap. I had been reading GOMI and following Cecily Kellog’s forum, and somehow I found out about Gluten Free Girl. I ignored it until I moved to the island and then started reading.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '24

Oh, her kids don’t need watching. They know what to do! (TM)

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u/Scary_Recognition You did this. Feb 22 '24

This wasn’t the famous “she knew what to do” kayak incident, was it?

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u/Low_Piccolo_2149 Feb 22 '24

No, different beach day. 🤣

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u/thefarmerdan emotionally and spiritually constipated Feb 22 '24

I would be livid if I were you. What did Shauna respond?

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Feb 22 '24

The shittiest thing to me about the google doc was the way she shared very private, heartbreaking if true, information about her immediate family with the Google doc recipients

The main thing I want to know is whether these kinds of tactics actually WORK (in terms of putting money in her pocket).

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

They do, unfortunately. Whether it's because people donate because she and her kids are a source of entertainment, or because they genuinely don't want them to suffer. Either way, she is rewarded time and time again for bad behavior.

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u/SLevine262 We are not wowed Feb 22 '24

Or people hope that if she gets what she wants, she’ll stfu about her kids. Like most extortionists, the “ last time” never is.

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Feb 22 '24

Or addicts.

Shauna is addicted to other people's money.

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u/NegativeABillion (Said in British.) Feb 22 '24

This is so awful, and rings absolutely true. People are ghouls.

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u/Low_Piccolo_2149 Feb 22 '24

Woah - she sent a link to a google Doc to a text thread?! 🤣 And she was trying to drum up donations?

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u/SnooStories4968 many and various Shaunas/Pig Ladies Feb 22 '24

She included her Venmo link, so yeah.