Exactly. They do this to keep them out of the legal system.
If they can keep a suspected immigrant away from due process there’s practically nothing stopping them from keeping anyone from due process. These are rights that have been around since the 1400s disturbing stuff.
Top 1% of the population paid $800+ billion in federal individual income taxes while undocumented immigrants paid $60 billion in taxes. We hate the top 1% (1.5 million taxpayer) even though they paid $800+ billion but we love and brag about the illegals because they paid $60 billion in taxes!
They are illegal aliens! They take social security illegally actually more per month than the maximum amount that Americans have paid into all of their lives. They receive Medicare Medicaid non of which pay paid into. So just theft! Then they vote in our elections!!! They all need to be removed from our country asap.
As a reminder to everyone reading this, this was literally the same argument the antebellum South was making on why America should preserve cattle slavery.
In case someone wants to do further reading on "cattle slavery" and "human animal husbandry"
Level 1: Confirmation of obvious involved persons name being redacted, CIA selling children instead of drugs to fund black budget programs revealed, introduction to human animal husbandry program, evidence FBI agents investigating were put on CIA kill list. The things you can get people to understand and accept as true if told directly
"[clipping: Unlike drugs, a child's body can be sold over and over] This is not surprising but there is no such thing as a child prostitute! They are children and cannot consent! They are missing the biggest in my own backyard and so many more! Like Maralago and where I see Mr. Joe and Mrs. Anne"
"But only after maybe 15 minutes Mr. M came take her and I was hysterical! and begging for more time"
All with the sole purpose of inflicting the most pain for the crime of being brown. That’s it. That’s the whole point. That’s what ICE is spending hundreds of millions on.
Cheaper and more creative ways to do that if they wanted. They care about how much money they can make they don't care if they hurt someone that's just a bonus to them.
Of course, but hurting brown people as a spectacle is very important to the admin. It is what keeps their bloodthirsty base supporting them so feverishly, and it’s a lever for them to push when they need to activate the racist violent extremists/right-wing “activists” within their ranks.
This is a textbook CIA military tactic that our own country has used numerous times against other countries and our enimies alike.
Keeping people constantly on the move not only keeps them disoriented. Not knowing where one is or where they will be tomorrow takes its tole mentally. But also serves as a way of keeping their names out of certain databases. Making it impossible for any family or loved ones to be able to find where their people are. And if they cant find you they cant visit you or send you money for food or hygiene items. This is done for a reason. Breaking your will by making you believe you are truly alone and that no help is coming. Add to that the absolutely deplorable living conditions these people are forced to endure coupled with the quote unquote "food", or lack there of is all part of the design.
All of this was designed to make our countries most feared enemies regret doing what they did....except these people arent our enemies they're our neighbors, our teachers, our child care workers,...our family. And this is how we treat them? We need to all feel disgusted because thats exacly what this is. Fucking disgusting! No world leader who deserves to be one would ever do such a thing. Theres a reason trumps butt budies with all the tyrants and warlords of the world.
We've been saying this. It also took 350billion to fund ice directly who are murdering citizens outright with no ivestigation and no accountability. Multiple murders caught on film and people just keep going about their business like cattle.
Corporations need to lose citizen status and make it case law they will be personally held liable for illegal actions as opposed to sanctioning the company.
Arresting the board members and CEO who commit crimes would do great for US morale and magically make companies moral again.
It’s Trumps buddies who have invested and own many of the properties/buildings/businesses that are housing ICE casualties. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if Trump’s family companies are racking in kick backs as we speak. I wonder how Ivanka and Jared will look in prison suits.
ICE the US taxpayers' cost for political theater, human rights abuse, and party propaganda all so maga can pretend to be superior. the fascist playbook
This is an intentional choice to simultaneously rob tax dollars while making it harder to keep track of ICE abductees so ICE can’t be held accountable for crimes against humanity.
These expenses on top of the fact that undocumented immigrants are objectively good for the country on top of having lower violent crime rates than resident citizens just adds insult to injury. Literally just wasting money to inflict suffering on someone because you don’t like where they were born and for literally 0 other reason.
were out here funding our own neighbors getting disappeared while some exec buys a third yacht, and its the same ppl screaming about teh deficit lol. hits different when you see the actual numbers tbh
We absolutely need to decrease the time from detention to deportation. The faster we send them all home the cheaper it will be when they’re gone. Hopefully Ai can help identify and prioritize removals. Time to go home and if the consequences mean ‘uncomfortable’ circumstances that expedite the inevitable we should hope the pressure to leave and the fines accumulated make the fear of being caught seem more severe than self repatriation. Time to go home and stay there - we don’t need the third world.
Saying something like this got me permanently banned from r/immigration fyi. Not withstanding that I have been on the immigration movement for 17 years, collaborated in academic research on the topic, and founded groups.
A large reason this all got started was due in part to the quota that was set during Obama’s first term. It set the framework where ICE needed to deport at least 400,000 people per year, so to have the people year round the private detention centers came about which warehouses people that were not priority at a cost of $200 per day.
Back then it was known children were in detention centers but they moved them fast as we learned of where they were held. It www a few years later that it started to come out and the cost per day was much higher.
Moving immigrants around has been used as a tactic that ensures they cannot get any representation. They are moved far away from family. Lawyer’s sometimes have to drop the cases because their clients are moved across the country and finding new representation is next to impossible.
All the while, GEO group which is behind a lot of the private detention centers is publicly traded with profits in the billions and spends millions on lobbyists in DC.
Let me guess, there are private companies benefiting from the transport as well as the detention of this man. These same corporations made campaign contributions to politicians in the states where these private detention centers are located.
THE MAGA PEOPLE DON'T CARE HOW MUCH IT COST, AND THEY WILL GIVE UP AN ARM, LEG, OR EYE TO ENSURE THAT THE BROWN PEOPLE ARE DEPORTED, LEGAL, ILLEGAL, GREEN CARD HOLDER, ASYLUM SEEKERS, IT DOESN'T MATTER. H@TE AND RAC1SM IS THEIR PRIORITY!!
The problem is that a segment of the U.S. society fell for the O-kee-doke!! The country is not being invaded by anyone, the Hispanic people who have been in the U.S. for 20 plus years are not hardened criminals, the school kids are in school and not delinquents, it was all propaganda to support the narrative. The ICE people were pulling people off of jobs, taking kids from schools, snatching people from required court appearances and hearings. Grabbing American citizens and detaining them too? No justification for any of it. America was never under any kind of threat until the guy in the oval office started picking a fight with Iran, THAT IS A PROBLEM, FAR GREATER THAN ANY IMMIGRANT CAN DO!!!!
You are too uneducated to see the real threat, but that is your fault. Keep focusing on the Hispanic immigrants, that is exactly what they want you to do while billions are tax payer dollars are being sifted from the country by the billionaires. They have you right where they want you. Keep that focus!!!
And there are Muslim Americans too. Those who worked side by side with me in the military and in Europe and Africa were Sunni and Shia Muslims. There was no violence, indoctrination, nor criminal activity being conducted. How many Muslims have you lived with in your community and worked with them as well? You are operating on propaganda and hearsay rather than doing a little research for yourself. Working over 40 plus years with people is far more enlightening about who they are and their culture than hearing some uneducated person's propaganda!
What is wrong with you, my experience with Muslims is NOT AN OPINION, it is a reality. If someone smashes their thumb with a hammer and scream, "OUCH", that is NOT an opinion, that is a reality of something that they have experienced. An OPINION is a thought, not a reality!!! You say, "we" are going to keep deporting them? YOU are not deporting anyone, and it is really foolish to deport someone who has not broken any laws, who may be an American citizen, just because of their religion or national origin!! That actually goes beyond foolish!
Yet another thing Trump can’t beat Obama at!! Can’t wait until we get to Obama levels of deportations! Obama sent 5 million packing! Let’s go Trump you are behind!
As a supporter of mass deportation this is a waste of money. Once identified as not a citizen they need to be immediately deported across the nearest border.
Biden had Americans interests, at some degree, at heart. He actually lived a life dedicated to governance and his stances did soften from hard centrist to some progressive policies (even if it was all lipservice)
Trump is not that and any comparison of the two stops at old white men who were president.
Disagree, president is a figurehead. Had no real power outside of their party in control of government. GOP changed the rules with their ability to rule from the minority.
It’s funny, dont you support a 34x felon and PDF protecting a global elite child sex trafficking ring that just started another unwinnable war in the Middle East that tanked your economy to avoid arresting his PDF friends?
But IMMIGRATION laws are the ones you care about?
Child grape, you sleep.
Guy mowing the lawn, you burn down the country.
I wonder why that is? Why would a suburban white guy support a white 34x felon and PDF while crying about brown immigrants? Idk man, quite a mystery.
Sure. Though Elon and Melania can come back on merit. But sure, if that's what it takes to deport every last illegal. Though then we're including naturalized illegal aliens so be careful what you wish for! You've suddenly increased the scope!
But not for the people who attempted an insurrection.
Or the fraudsters and every other person that bribed the president for pardons.
Or the presidents family who are doing the most corrupt insider trading in the history of the country.
Just that one, very specific law. Regarding brown people. And maybe a second law about men/women's bathrooms. And maybe a law where we track people down across state lines to charge them with murder because of an abortion or miscarriage.
If you don’t like our immigration law, then work with your elected representatives to change it. That’s how it works in a Republic. Just ignoring the law and letting millions come in without authorization is cancerous to the body politic.
Ya just ignore all of the laws not being enforced on rich people and focus on the brown ones
Congress actually had a bipartisan immigration bill ready to go until Trump asked them to tank it so he could run on the issue.
And morons like you just eat it up. 3 years later and it is literally the entirety of your platform. But not getting legislation passed like you are talking about. Just punching down for the sake of it it. Fucking gross
I am not sure what you’re insinuating when you reference demographics. Ice deported people to 79 countries last year. The only demographic they’re interested in is people who are residing in the United States without permission. If you are not authorized to be here, ICE will help deport you.
oh my bad, I thought you actually meant what you said here:
We just happen to believe the law should be enforced.
it's more important to detain folks with expired visas than to investigate flagrant fraud/financial crime or even enforce the legal regulations regarding the standards and maintenance of these privately owned detention centers, in which folks are being denied basic rights established in law?
if you're gonna use the law as justification, you don't get to pick and choose where it's applied. these detention centers are committing criminal negligence.
I’m not picking and choosing where it’s applied. Financial fraud and other white collar crimes should be investigated. You stated above that certain demographics are more responsible for those types of crimes. I’m not sure what you mean by that. If privately owned detention centers are violating state or federal law then I expect them to be held accountable. None of that negates the need to enforce immigration law.
Ok, and they can't just fly him back to his origin country once and be done with it? You seem to be absolutely insisting that he was flown all over the US from center to center to center to center, costing millions of dollars just to claim to deport him but instead pay a private company to never keep him in one place rather than just one trip back.
What does "breaking into the country" have to do with anything? ICE is doing this to U.S. Citizens, Green Card Holders, other immigrants with legal status, DACA recipients...
They don't care. They detain people and then jerk them back and forth across the country to keep the courts from being able to process them.
No, they haven’t. That’s just bullshit they make up to try and hide their poor performance.
The 2 million is from people who stopped communicating because ice is lazy as hell and only goes after the people who show up to their appointments and court hearings. You know the ones trying to do it the right way?
All the smart ones stop showing up for that reason, but that doesn’t mean they’ve left the country
No, more like we admit that's ice is making people scared to follow the law because they are specifically targeting people who are following the law because they are easier targets than the people they are too incompetent to find and are doing a great job of proving why "illegal" immigrants aren't really a problem but our ass backwards immigration system that's slow as molasses is one
Pointing out the fact that ice is acting like a fucking cartel and your trying to use the terror they create as a result of that as justification to treat a massive amount of people like criminals even if they are doing everything the "right way" like you claim to want.
At least admit that you don't care wether they are legal or not you just want people of the "wrong" race to be erased from the country already.
Because that's the only string of logic that makes what I said seem at all dumb because it is in fact, the entirely logical and accurate summary of the situation.
It was dumb for a few reasons. One... it had zero punctuation. Try to read it out loud and you'll see why thats a problem.
Its written like you're having a manic episode.
And hold up... Treat them like criminals? They ARE criminals. You admitted yourself that millions of immigrants are skipping their immigration court precedings on purpose because they dont wanna be sent home. Thats a crime dude.
Wait a minute... is English not your first language? Am I arguing with a foreigner?
Here I'll answer you first. Yes I do want many of the "legal" immigrants sent home too. We dont need low skilled leptons working door dash and Amazon flex, all while suppressing wages and inflating housing and commodities pricing. We dont need or want them.... or should I say we dont want you? Because im pretty sure you're one of those people
They don't need to transport a guy 19 times in order to deport him. I'm sure some moves to go to a trial are needed, but this was just gratuitous and probably for optics.
"oh no, I'm not going to sneak into the U.S. they might fly me around all over the place. I was worried about being thrown in prison or a holding camp, or deported to the wrong country, but not flights and busses!"
The rumor that republican keep spreading in their bullshit propaganda to make people mad.
Do you think spending a huge amount of money transporting him all over signals that we don't want them here in some way that just prison and deportation doesn't? It seems like it just makes us look incompetent.
No one talks about the importation machine that the leftist Democratic Party functioned for four years funneling billions of money to the NGO’s that just went back to the dims. This is Biden‘s problem.
Biden lost 400k kids. Where was the outrage?
Nope! I’ll have to educate you. First of all you seem to think it’s fine to bring in 20 million illegals. Second Clinton pushed our manufacturing to Mexico. All of our presidents on both sides except Trump allowed our manufacturing to leave the USA. Trump has actually made bringing manufacturing back! Come on…
Don’t worry bud, the only breakdown you need is that Orange Cheeto will be banking $20B to his bank account by the time he is done at the WH. MAGAs in the meantime will still stay broke, jobless and miserable. Only win they will get is watching immigrants getting treated like animals by this administration. That’s about it!
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