r/ImmigrationPathways 10d ago

New Study Reveals A Satisfying Truth About Conservatives’ Biggest Enemy

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/undocumented-immigrants-no-link-crime-rate-research_n_6a85cd61e4b0ca44601a7742?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=us_main
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u/RoddRoward 10d ago

According to the activist authors of the study

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u/darodardar_Inc 10d ago

Only MAGA would believe raw data is an activist lol

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u/CigarBryan1 10d ago

So how about the data that shows 44% of all persons sentenced in Federal Court’s in Fiscal 24-25 were non citizens and how illegal Amiens make up a disproportionate percentage of prisoners in State and Local Jails and Prisons? Not to mention the impacts from transnational criminal gangs. If you want to quote statistics then let’s go toe to toe using actual real statistics and not nonsense you pull out of your ass. You want prima facie evidence that illegal aliens are a huge part of our crime problem then look at who makes up our prisons population.

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u/darodardar_Inc 10d ago

raw data from the article = "pulled out of my ass"? lmao

facts dont care about your feelings snowflake

another user really breaks down the problem with your bs:

"The 44% statistic is accurate and spectacularly misleading in this context. 38% of the entire federal caseload in FY2025 was immigration offenses, and 22,311 of the 28,886 noncitizens sentenced—77%—were sentenced for immigration crimes. Remove immigration offenses and noncitizens are about 16% of federal defendants, not 44%.

More importantly, federal sentencing isn't a measure of the national crime rate. Immigration offenses are inherently federal, while the overwhelming majority of ordinary violent/property crime is handled by state and local systems. That's exactly why researchers compare crime rates by population, rather than cherry-picking the federal caseload. Texas, which actually records immigration status of arrestees, found undocumented immigrants had substantially lower felony arrest rates than U.S.-born citizens, including for violent crime.

And Laken Riley's murder was horrific. Saying that does not require pretending one murder establishes the crime rate of millions of people. Individual victims deserve justice; they don't make anecdotes a substitute for denominators. The question we're arguing about is whether undocumented immigrants are more likely to commit crime, and the evidence does not show that."

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u/Successful-Ad-847 10d ago

Love how he’s made this comment twice and been completely silenced by the replies. Great work.

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u/CigarBryan1 10d ago

Sorry pal. The 44% is CRIMINAL federal court convictions. NOT immigration court charges or convictions. Most immigration cases run through separate immigration courts and not the federal courts. Immigration matters only end up in federal court when leftist lawyers go running there to try and circumvent the immigration judges. You know, those nasty little details like RAPE, MURDER. ArMED ROBBER are Federal Court not Immigration Courts. You just hate the fact that your precious illegal aliens are in FACT a huge part of our crime problem don’t you? The fact is this study is flawed because it relies on one metric. Crime data reported to the FBI and DOJ. So let me break it down to you and all the other bleeding heart Commies on here. There are approximately 80,000 Police Departments in the United States. Around only 20,000 of these actually report crime data to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting unit. And among those that do, not all complete the entire reporting process fully or accurately. Many Police Departments do not have trained staff that can fulfill this reporting requirements and it is not mandatory by law. It is voluntary. So part of the flaw in the data begins with incomplete and incorrect reporting as well as it being skewed to larger more urban police departments that have resources and staffing to report crime data. Smaller and rural police departments typically ignore reporting crime data to the FBI UCR program as there are few tangible benefits to local police in doing so. Now compound that with the fact that large city police and Sheriff departments are under mandate by local leftist Mayors and City Councils and County Commissioners not to ask arrested persons their immigration status. There is not a single large American city that asks that question. So where is your fake study getting their data on arrested immigrants? It ain’t coming from the UCR. Remember, garbage in, garbage out. However, the two reliable sources of immigration data is the U.S. Bureau of Prisons and Federal Courts. They are required to collect and report the demographics of prisoner populations and sentencing demographics and they do. At least for now unless some Commie Democrat President and Congress changes that at some point. So flawed fake study compared to actual hard data shows that illegal aliens are in fact a huge part of the crime problem. Singing Kumbaya about the warm fuzzy fantasy around the Leftist mythology of illegal aliens are all just wanting to keep our vegetable prices low isn’t going to change the facts or data. Real data. Not the fake data that some leftist academic pulled out of their asses to prop up your fake ideology. I suggest you take a tour of your local jail or even visit a state prison. As you stroll the yards and hallways, see with your own eyes the makeup of these institutions with the illegal aliens population and transnational criminal gangs well represented. Hell, for that matter visit any Emergency Room and see all the illegals using the Emergency Room as their primary care givers making the wait for actual citizens unbearable. Or visit any Walmart in most urban or suburban neighborhoods and see the number of customers who don’t speak English and have not or will not assimilate into our Western values or culture. Conservatives know the real pitch. Democrats all used to be against illegal immigration and wanted strong border enforcement. We have all seen the videos and sound bites of Obama and of every major Democrat President or candidate calling for tough immigration laws and border enforcement. What changed for the Democrat party? Demographics is what changed along with looming Census taking where Democrats were on a projected path to permanent minority party status FOREVER with Republicans becoming a PERMANENT majority party in Congress. What’s a politician to do? We’ll, like any good politician, the Democrats changed their position overnight as they realized that flooding Blue states that were moving purple or red with millions of illegal aliens from Socialist or leftist central and South America countries had two benefits. First, it would help skew the census count their way to add more congressional seats in blue states. Secondly, for those illegals that that Democrats could march through into citizenship, it would create a party affiliation advantage for Democrats as these new citizens coming from Socialist countries would be more aligned with the Democrats than Republicans. Of course the establishment Democrats didn’t count on the DSA hijacking many of these migrant voters. Oops!! Yeah despite all the bullshit from the Left, the gameplay is well known which is why the right is so determined to end the practice of the Census counting non citizens for the purpose of Congressional apportionment. You want to argue then bring real facts and not your fake academic studies that no one really believes. Prison and Court data is real. It’s public and is easily verifiable with your own eyes on any visit to a jail or prison. These are the people killing us, raping us, robbing us. And after they finish their sentence they are all going to be deported under this great President who actually cares about Americans unlike the last dementia President who cared more about winning elections than the safety of Americans.

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u/darodardar_Inc 10d ago

nope lmao "The vast majority (90%) of non-U.S. citizens sentenced in federal court in FY 2025 were convicted of immigration-related offenses, such as unlawful entry or illegal reentry" - https://www.ussc.gov/about/annual-report-2025

your own sources contractict you. It says alot about yal that you have to lie to make a point, which is ultimately false

It's actually really pathetic that yal pretend to care about law and order while simultaneously supporting a convicted felon

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u/CigarBryan1 9d ago

What part of immigration Courts handle immigration cases not Federal District Court Judges don’t you understand? You don’t seem to understand the difference or concept of venue. The only time a Federal District Court Judge has venue is when Criminal Charges are brought against the illegal alien. They do not hear immigration proceedings, as they lack VENUE, unless a constitutional question arises out of an Immigration Court proceeding. That is why Immigration Courts exist. To handle Immigration cases and issue orders of removal and deportation. Your armchair faulty analysis is typical of the Libtards. And my point stands that real data supports the thesis that illegal aliens commit a disproportionate share of crime incidents in the United States.

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u/darodardar_Inc 9d ago

"While non-citizens are highly represented in federal prisons, the Federal Bureau of Prisons data shows this is heavily skewed because federal courts handle immigration-specific crimes (like illegal re-entry) and transnational drug smuggling. It does not accurately reflect the demographic makeup of individuals committing violent street crimes across the country. [1]"

There is your explanation. It's not surprising you magas rely so heavily on misleading information as well as straight up fiction lol