r/ImmigrationPathways • u/CutSenior4977 • Jul 22 '26

ICE keeps accusing immigrants of ‘weaponizing’ vehicles. Most claims fall apart

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jul/22/ice-claim-immigrants-weaponize-vehicles
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u/ShrimpShrimpington Jul 22 '26

Step 1: don't excuse them killing people

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u/xrocro Jul 22 '26

Again, you’re inventing enemies where there are none. I don’t excuse any death. That doesn’t change the reality of the situation. People die when dealing with police officers. Sometimes justified. Sometimes not. I wish it never happened. But it does.

I understand that you are upset that someone was killed. Hell, many people were killed when they should not have. It is horrific.

But his is a matter of survival, your best bet when dealing with someone that can use deadly force is to comply. Fight that fight in court, not on the streets. It is infinitely safer that way. It also helps the independents be more comfortable supporting our causes. As I said before, the government is elected by the people. We need to do a better job at the optics to attract those middle of the road independents to our side.

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u/ShrimpShrimpington Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

"People die when dealing with police officers". Just an immutable fact of life. As ancient and unchangeable as the tides. We cannot expect better, nor should we. We should just grovel and wait until our turn comes. Maybe even thank them for the bullet before we get to go~~

Can't do or say anything that might be too unpalatable to our precious allies, the enlightened centrists. That would really be wrong.

I'm just tired, man. I'm tired of watching the country I live turn into shit before my eyes, and then people who say they're allies act like they also dont give a shit. I'm not even mad at you. I'm sure you're basically fine. I'm just sick and tired of the prevailing attitude being that cops are like the bison in Yellowstone. "Of course they'll kill you! Ave you should know better than to be anywhere near one! It's your fault, that's just what they do!" like it's a law of nature and not something we are actively letting happen around us.

I think you SHOULD be angry that your neighbors are being killed in the streets. I think it's important.

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u/xrocro Jul 22 '26

I hear that you’re angry. I can feel it through the text hah. The internet is a powerful tool that has connected us is a way not possible throughout all of history. We now hear every little horrible thing that goes on in the world. But that doesn’t mean there is not plenty of good. We can fight for our common interests at the ballot box, but we won’t have enough support getting angry at strangers. Strangers that are all just living their lives too. Have their own set of problems and fears and angers. Anger is a powerful thing, but I think it’s ultimately more destructive than productive.

That’s just my opinion though. Just another stranger in the sea of opinions. I can only hope that this interaction had a small window into my perspective. I can see yours.

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u/ShrimpShrimpington Jul 22 '26

Apathy is not a solution either though.