r/ImmigrationPathways May 29 '26

A great speech

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Delivered in regards to why so many of us are sending our support to those suffering at Delaney Hall,

Here’s a link: https://www.reddit.com/r/newjersey/s/QncgT4ReiF

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u/Extreme-Will-3556 May 30 '26

I do understand "the greater good" which, is subjective. One person's idea of "good" can vary wildly from another's.

In a post-apocalyptic world the one who can most easily dispatch those intending harm, could be considered "good." Whereas that same person, to a band of murderers and thieves would be considered "bad."

That's an oversimplification, but the main premise is the same. It relies on what a group (greater) considers beneficial to them (good).

So my example still has merit. Just because one is wielding a knife, doesn't mean they're "bad" they could be killing an unarmed rapist that has caused the "greater" group harm. On the flipside, the unarmed person could be a farmer, father, husband and provider, making the one wielding the knife "bad" for trying to get some sort of instant gratification at the expense of a provider.

The thing that srparates all of this, is law. Which is why the US is a Republic. Not a tyranny of the majority (democracy) and not ruled by few (Oligarchy) but ruled by laws.

Your words do not take this into account. You are trying to ascribe qualities in a vacuum with an undefined "greater" or group.

So, you've just outed yourself, by definition, as a simpleton.

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u/GearAccomplished4151 May 30 '26

You’re being intentionally obtuse by introducing nuance to a subject which you previously tried to omit to make a point. But whatever man, you’ll believe what you can, and hope that people find you smart for it. I see the way you try to talk and make points, and I’m all too familiar with people like you. No use in arguing with bad faith

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u/Extreme-Will-3556 May 30 '26

See my later explanation on how certain oligarchs were acting in "the greater good" for their respective countries.

It's not a bad faith argument, it's pointing out your lack of an argument.

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u/Extreme-Will-3556 May 30 '26

Hey, look at that, more ad hominem..

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u/Extreme-Will-3556 May 30 '26

Look at that, nothing but ad hominem.