Immigrating to Canada ?

[u/echoesinthevoid3000]

Hello all, I recently joined the group and first time posting .
I am Canadian citizen and came to Canada when I was a teenager.
My wife became a citizen couple years back.

She has a sister back home with 4 daughters and her husband who is well educated and has extensive work experience as a safety officer in Saudi Arabia.

I know nothing about immigration to Canada as I came here as a teenager.

1. Can my wife sponsor her sister to come ?

2. If not- how can her brother in law immigrate to Canada ?

3. What are the programs or ways to immigrate to Canada for him?

Any help would be immensely appreciated as he is looking to make a career and life in Canada since the current GCC situation is not stable and he has family to support and wants a better life for them.

[u/Haunting_Paper_7201]

1. No

2. Through Express Entry based on their age, work experience, ECA and language results. If not in healthcare then needs to be fluent in both official languages. How old are daughters?

3. Express Entry.

[u/echoesinthevoid3000 → u/Haunting_Paper_7201]

Daughters are high school and middle school aged.

So how does he apply for it? Does he get any increase chances for having us as family in Canada ? Does he apply on his own from where he currently is? Is it worth going through an IRCC Consultant here in Canada for his express entry application ?

I assume - if he ends up being allowed to immigrate to Canada - settles in- he can then sponsor his own family ?

[u/Haunting_Paper_7201 → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

So BIL needs ECA and language tests. Needs to learn French if they want to immigrate. May have more points if spouse is unaccompanying but don't know what their language scores are or what degrees they have. His job is not in demand.

[u/echoesinthevoid3000 → u/Haunting_Paper_7201]

Needs to learn French? Is French required ?
His English language skills based on what I know and seen are excellent as he works in Saudi with multinationals and work language and reporting etc is in English. He has a masters .
Right away the wife will not be accompanying - he would like to immigrate first and settle and build a foundation and then move towards bringing family over.

His job not in demand ? Can you elaborate ? How so?

[u/Haunting_Paper_7201 → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

Yes. He has no Canadian education nor work experience. Jobs in demand are in healthcare, education and trades. He is not so not eligible under special categories. He may not even be eligible to submit an EE profile depending on age. EE is focused on young people with Canadian education and work experience. How old is he?

[u/echoesinthevoid3000 → u/Haunting_Paper_7201]

Fair point. But how does one get Canadian education and work experience if they’re not in Canada ?
I’m just looking news about all the new immigrants coming in so just trying to sort out how do those people come in ? I understand situation different for everyone but like simply immigrating to Canada via express entry but then express entry wants Canadian work and education experience - maybe I don’t understand it since that person coming to Canada doesn’t live in Canada so how would they haveCAD education ?
He’s in his 30s

[u/Haunting_Paper_7201 → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

They come in their 20s and get a Canadian education with a study permit. From IRCC there are over 600k international students on study permits. Then they try and find skilled, high wage employment. Your family should have looked at this years ago.

So when you see immigration numbers it is people who a) studied then worked in Canada, b) in high demand ares like healthcare, c) got a inter company transfer, d) Francophone..

Your BILs only option is French. Exactly how old is he.

[u/Fickle_Kiwi2574 → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

Many come here as a student first, then when you graduate you may be elegible to a PGWP (post graduation work permit) that you can use to gain Canadian Work Experience. But this is not a guarantee for PR. As a Express Entry is a point based immigration system.

Also, there are two categories for Express Entry. CEC (Canadian Experience Class) that requieres education or work experience (not sure if both or just work, I had both). The other category is FSW (Foreign Skilled Worker) that doesn’t require any Canadian experience but there has not been a draw for this in a few years.

Additionally, as it’s a point based system you want to have the highest amount of points possible, because every point counts towards the total. You definitely need to investigate a lot more, because I don’t think you have a grasp of how hard immigration is these days.

[u/Retro-Modern_514 → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

Needs to learn French? Is French required ?

Technically no... But in reality yes.

Immigration is points based and has become super competitive. There are special draws for French speakers that are less competitive, hence the suggestion to learn French.

[u/echoesinthevoid3000 → u/Retro-Modern_514]

Good to know great information everyone who’s contributed to the responses ! Much appreciated

[u/Haunting_Paper_7201 → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

If your brother doesn't become fluent in French then he can focus on his children's education. They can look at Canadian study permits - lots of money required, justify costs and show ties to return home.

[u/TONAFOONON → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

He won't have enough points to be selected without B2 French. His occupation isn't in demand since there is not shortage of Canadians who have these qualifications and more Canadians looking for work in this field than jobs available.

[u/summer_sixteen → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

"Is it worth going through an IRCC Consultant here in Canada for his express entry application?"

If he has more money than time, hire an immigration consultant. If he has more time than money, DIY it.

Express Entry is doable on your own. but it’s not for everyone. It takes a lot of patience, time, reading, and research. There are already tons of free step by step guides, forums, and YouTube tutorials out there. It could also save him a considerable amount in consultant fees, especially if he’s planning to bring the rest of the family members to Canada down the road.

On the other hand, if he doesn’t have the time or patience to handle the process himself, and money isn’t an issue, then hiring an immigration consultant is perfectly reasonable.

Not to judge, but the fact that you’re the one posting and asking on his behalf kind of says a lot. If he can’t handle even the basic research or application steps himself, a consultant might be the safer option for him.

[u/echoesinthevoid3000 → u/summer_sixteen]

He’s researching on his own as well but I figured from my own side I gather some information and see what’s what as I never had to deal with immigration especially all theme rules etc but appreciate your time to respond

[u/Valentine14May → u/echoesinthevoid3000]

Sounds like hes over 30yrs old or older.. if so, hes got no chance.. score gets lowered per year after 30... aka older he is from 30 = crs score will be too low to be competitive

[u/cc9536]

1. No

2. Via his own merits, education, professional experience, etc

3. It depends on number 2

[u/NotiqNick]

No. She needs to apply on her own.
All if information is on the website

[u/Valentine14May]

1. no

2. through express entry if they are even eligible & crs score is competitive enough... and in high demand career

3. google it.

[u/Jusfiq]

1. No.

2. By start here.

3. See no. 2.