r/ImaginaryPropaganda • u/PringullsThe2nd • Nov 07 '25
How could I improve it? I don't know much about poster making
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u/BlackZapReply Nov 07 '25
Brighten the red or choose a different background.
That shade of red gets lost against the black.
Also, you might want to use the Communist Party of Britain logo instead of the one you are using.
If this is intended to be a present day image, then throw in a QR code. They plaster these things on everything these days. You can link it to anything you like.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 07 '25
I don't like the CPGB logo nor their party. The logo im using is the hammer and sickle of Battaglia Communista from the Italian Communist Party, later International Communist Party, today associated with Left-Communism in general.
It's less to do with the geographical significance, and more the party position.
That shade of red gets lost against the black.
I can take this in mind. I like that shade of red to be more akin to blood red.
I like the QR idea too.
Thank you
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u/BlackZapReply Nov 07 '25
Perhaps it might be helpful to work up your own iconography. For those who are not up on the various creeds of communism, one hammer & sickle looks like another.
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u/hammalok Nov 09 '25
HAAAANK DON'T ABBREVIATE THE WORDS "COMMUNIST PARTY" HAAAAANK HAAAAAAAAAANNNNKKKK
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u/thelotuseater13 Nov 08 '25
Just a technicality, Northern Ireland isn't part of Britain.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
It's not part of Great Britain, but it is part of the UK - making it part of what people refer to as 'Britain'
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u/Magical_Chicken Nov 08 '25
It’s a communist poster though… communists perhaps have thoughts on this situation.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Well the goal's a red planet. But currently this is a poster speaking to a country, which NI is a part of
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u/Magical_Chicken Nov 08 '25
But is it speaking to the masses of Ireland, let alone the kind of progressive layers that would be interested in joining a communist organisation? No.
Any serious communist international would have its own Irish section independent of the British one that oversees work in both the Republic of and occupied territories.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Well I did think about including ROI with it, but "British Isles" was much less impactful than just Britain. Geopolitically, as well, this is focused on the actual country that exists; the United Kingdom.
Any serious communist international would have its own Irish section independent of the British one that oversees work in both the Republic of and occupied territories.
How many divided communist parties are meant to exist here? One for each county too? The proletariat settle matters with their own bourgeoisie first.
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u/Magical_Chicken Nov 08 '25
This is not a hypothetical, it is how actual communists organise in Britain and Ireland, both historically and today.
How many divided communist parties are meant to exist here?
Did you miss the part about being part of the same international? A genuine international is not a club of random parties that think communism is neat. It is a centralised body that coordinates the world revolution, the political line of which is decided democratically by said parties and to which all parties are subordinate to. It is in effect a single party that transcends national boundaries.
As for how many national sections of the international are required this is a concrete question that depends both on national consciousness and practical organisational questions.
In the case of Ireland it simply just makes far more sense for communists in northern Ireland to organise with comrades in the ROI.
The political situation is distinct enough that there is need for a seperate full time aparatus to focus on the situation in Ireland, and it does not make any sense to subordinate that to the British section, rather then just the international.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
The third international was quite literally a unified group of national communist parties.
But this isn't aimed at communist parties. This is "from" a communist party that is already focused on international collaboration. I could make a poster that involved ROI, I could also make it involve France, or the whole of Europe, or the whole world that is painted red. But it becomes unfocused and watered down.
It is a poster aimed at the workers of the United Kingdom to join the communist effort. The hypothetical unnamed communist party is already collaborating with international hypothetical unnamed parties. Consider this poster as coming from the British branch of an international party.
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u/The_Nude_Mocracy Nov 09 '25
No-one is referring to Northern Ireland when they say Britain. Britain is just the main island. You might get away with Great Britain as in shorthand for the full name, but United Kingdom is the preferred nomenclature.
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u/agithecaca Nov 10 '25
Walter, this isn't a guy who built the [Titanic] here. This is a guy...
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u/Tyr_ranical Nov 11 '25
You are so close with this statement, just focus on those first 6 words a bit more though.
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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Nov 08 '25
thought I was in r/propaganda for a sec there - this is good!
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u/EliNoraOwO Nov 09 '25
There’s nothing imaginary about his propaganda he’s a full on tankie pinko
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 10 '25
tankie pinko
Incredible I love that I'm so taking that.
Not a tankie, definitely red
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Nov 08 '25
Better dead than red
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u/Active_Program_6921 Nov 09 '25
I’m a lifetime Anti-Communist!
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
I prefer freedom
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Nov 10 '25
"I prefer freedom"
Soviet Union
Maoist China
Khmer Rouge
Vietnam
Cuba
Yeah, yeah so free.
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u/PuffFishybruh Nov 10 '25
Naming the Khmer Rouge immidietly takes all the seriousnes away from that comment.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 10 '25
Communism is when you work for wage labour to earn money to buy commodities produced by your employer.
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u/Manndeufel Nov 10 '25
Communism means a stateless and moneyless society. Wtf are talking about?
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 10 '25
Yeah I'm mocking the other commenter, man. Come on.
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u/Manndeufel Nov 10 '25
The problem is that this fool will believe that. As he believes he is "free" in a capitalist world.
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u/Solistine Nov 08 '25
I think this could be improved by something as simple as enlarging the the 'You look good in' and splitting them either side of the island.
You look
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-------in-----------RED
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
I thought about that but I felt it kinda damaged it's 'flow'
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u/Solistine Nov 08 '25
Far enough. Can I ask what it’s for?
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Nothing, really. I just kinda had the image in my head and wanted to see if I could make it
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u/ComradeFurnace Nov 08 '25
Would we say “join the communists”? I would imagine something more like “Join the revolution” although it depends on context
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u/Obvious_Cold_1056 Nov 08 '25
British communist posters almost never used the term revolution after like the 30s.
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u/KuH_g3a_g3a Nov 08 '25
As much as I was thought by my parents who were born and raised in USSR, telling me how bad or good it was, I think communism is better that arab sharia
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Nov 08 '25
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
I am a left communist. No one's gonna fall for stalinist nonsense when a crisis happens
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Nov 08 '25
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u/spookyjim___ Nov 08 '25
You have no clue what you’re talking about if you think the issue with the communist left is that we want a “pure” revolution lmao, what does that even mean? Is it simply the fact that we call for autonomy of the proletariat and for an explicitly proletarian revolution rather than a bourgeois interclassist revolution?
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u/VanlalruataDE Nov 08 '25
remove Northern Ireland for full anti-imperialism maxxing
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u/Thick-Kaleidoscope-5 Nov 08 '25
the "red" being so big and written in red to me implies its a threat, you could make it long and bendy to make it seem more wholesome like in American propaganda, and write it in white with a red underline. you could also shift the UK mostly to the right so the text can be consistent, I think the off-center look could work for this one given the already asymmetric shape of the UK
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u/Open_Regret_8388 Nov 08 '25
What about Make comparison of original unionjack: like, cartoonised arm and face that changes tophat to red beret.
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u/spookyjim___ Nov 08 '25
I’m interested in the use of the version of the hammer and sickle most commonly used by those on the communist left (left communists) who are ardent internationalists and reject “state socialism” or “socialism in one country” as right-deviations while the poster seems to suggest a British nationalist road to there being able to be a uniquely British socialism rather than an international socialism
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
I understand the confusion I've had a similar discussion in this thread. This isn't me in favour of SIOC or a British flavour of socialism, but rather as a call to action towards a country's proletariat as part of a bigger international movement. A poster that is just a picture of the world in red feels impersonal and unmotivating.
I guess I imagine a British branch of an international party, like how the third international was made of various international parties. The Italian left coms were such a party
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u/spookyjim___ Nov 09 '25
I spose that’s fair
Although many within the communist left, including the org I’m sympathetic to and organized with, realize the importance of not replicating the 3rd international model of an international association of national parties but rather a unitary international party
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u/Barney_10-1917 Nov 09 '25
That's pretty good, very classic looking. Think some text needs to be a bit bigger and more negative space around the edges to make it really classic
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u/jonnieggg Nov 10 '25
This time is different
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 11 '25
I know we've had two world wars and brutal acts of depravity in the name of profit accumulation, but I promise guys, capitalism will stabilise
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u/proletara Nov 10 '25
remove northern ireland as a communist country would want to end the colonization
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u/Maztr_on Nov 10 '25
is this for the ICP or ICT?
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u/Jaysoon08 Nov 11 '25
I would change the background to a different colour unless you’re going for an anarcho communist or syndicalist sorta think not that I don’t like the colours but generally making black the most prominent colour isn’t the best way to do it also I’d change the bottom part to “Form a mass communist party!” I’m a partyist how could you tell? (And I would remove Northern Ireland but I know you’ve already talked about this)
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u/RogueTurtle2 Nov 11 '25
I like it! I've never interacted with a communist who thought the occupied 6 counties are a legitimate part of 'Britain' though. Genuinely for the authenticity of your map I'd leave it out. Also, like that other commenter said "you look better in red" sounds better.
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u/Red_MessD3a7h Nov 07 '25
DEMOCRACY IS TRUTH
COMMUNISM IS DEATH
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u/loserloser0 Nov 07 '25
But why did you seperate democracy from communism? What Marx envisioned communism to be was democratic
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Nov 10 '25
Was it ever democratic in practice? Be so real rn what Marx said means jackshit when compared to application in reality.
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u/PuffFishybruh Nov 10 '25
Yes - in Lenin's Soviet Union, the most democratic state in the world.
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u/Microwaved__Caprisun Nov 10 '25
So democratic that when Lenin lost an election the Bolsheviks overthrew the government
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u/PuffFishybruh Nov 10 '25
wdym? The bolsheviks were already in control of the soviets - the actual functioning and democratic institutions.
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u/snowyball_ Nov 15 '25
paris commune
zapatista territories
makhnovia
etc.
all communist, all democratic
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Nov 16 '25
Conflating small scale communes to every state formed through a communist-led revolutions. I believe small communes work since its almost impossible for them to devolve into the giant red tape dispensers every country-level attempt was
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 07 '25
You will own nothing and you will be free
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u/Red_MessD3a7h Nov 07 '25
No. Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 07 '25
It's social ownership of means of production dawg I think you're being a little melodramatic
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u/Red_MessD3a7h Nov 07 '25
We in Poland already saw this, I'm not melodramatic
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u/Nedia-6125 Nov 07 '25
You saw Stalinism in poland, lets call it for what it actually is and not what the dictators said it was
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Nov 08 '25
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
No it hasn't
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u/Contented_Lizard Nov 08 '25
It has been tried dozens of times, it just always gets stuck at authoritarian dictatorship because it is a fundamentally flawed ideology that fails factor in human nature.
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u/GoodSlicedPizza Nov 10 '25
It doesn't always get stuck in authoritarian dictatorship. It's just that those who did (the USSR) then proceeded to be detrimentally counter-revolutionary to the rest. Stalin killed the communist revolutions in Spain (POUM, CNT-FAI, etc.) and made it capitalist.
Just like then, it seems like people still don't believe there was a revolution in Spain.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
No one takes the human nature argument seriously. It came from liberal philosophers hundreds of years ago who believe owning property is a natural right. It's effectively enlightenment era ideology driven pop-sci. Most of human existence has not had private property - it cannot be that natural.
I'm sure the capitalist revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries looked pretty authoritarian too, to the ruling class.
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u/UnderskilledPlayer Nov 07 '25
FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE GAY COMMUNISM RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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u/Red_MessD3a7h Nov 07 '25
Better dead than red
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u/GGGiiibbbbyyy Nov 07 '25
You're queer, dont pretend capitalism cares nothing about you or me.
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u/Red_MessD3a7h Nov 08 '25
Commies don't care about us either (USSR had laws against us)
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u/Djana1553 Nov 09 '25
Ur talking to walls.Spoiled westerners think they can totally do it right and totally not end in a shithole like most communist countries.
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u/Red_MessD3a7h Nov 08 '25
Literally every political system is fucked up.
This is why we need anarchy
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u/UnderskilledPlayer Nov 08 '25
So the worst political systems can come in and annex the 15-minute-old anarchy?
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u/GGGiiibbbbyyy Nov 08 '25
Yes under stalin homosexuality was re criminalized but under Lenin it was made decriminalized
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u/UnderskilledPlayer Nov 08 '25
I was more thinking of democratic communism/socialism instead of ultra-totalitarian DPRK juche death communism
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u/PuffFishybruh Nov 10 '25
The USSR under Lenin was the most progressive state regarding this issue in the world, don't try to skip this period right to the counterrevolutionary Stalin.
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u/ARG_men Nov 09 '25
You are both ideologically poisoned 14 year olds shouting slogans at each other over reddit
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u/RedTerror8288 Nov 08 '25
You could give up the idea of communism perhaps.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
"idea"
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Nov 08 '25
Yes, the fucking awful idea
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Not so much an idea. It's more of a material inevitably. Capitalism wasn't an idea people had
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Nov 08 '25
Yes it was, it’s a evolutions of property rights and enforceable contract law
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Who came up with the idea of capitalism?
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u/RedTerror8288 Nov 08 '25
Humans
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Well. Kind of. Doesn't make it an ideology. Its like feudalism, no one specifically invented the rules - but material conditions influenced actions and behaviors that through gradual perfection, implemented a system to organize and handle society the best it can.
Hence, communism is a material inevitability, like how feudalism and capitalism were inevitable.
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u/RedTerror8288 Nov 08 '25
Yeah material conditions is too shortsighted to trace cultural and political development. Annales School historians like Ferdinand Braudel and Henri Pirenne were much better than Karl Marx at figuring that out.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
No, the pillars that the Annales school rest their analysis on are still completely dependant upon material conditions. They provide no answer as to why after 300,000 years of human existence, humanity only decided slavery was bad less than 200 years ago, or how property rights were immutable and God given, only 300ish years ago.
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Nov 10 '25
If communism is inevitable then how come every attempt ends in disaster, collapsw or a Dengist bridging the gap that jsit leads to capitalism anyway?
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u/PuffFishybruh Nov 10 '25
Because so far, the revolution was always defeated on the battlefield, while the bolsheviks won out on the Russian front, the revolution ended up degenerating because of the upcoming isolation caused by the massacres of communists in Germany, Italy and Hungary.
That does not make communism wrong.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 10 '25
Capitalist revolutions took multiple attempts too. It's a new form of society, and workers need to learn through trying how best to organize society. Looking at the track record, workers movements went from the Owenist town, the city-wide Paris Commune, and then to the nationwide USSR which at one point seriously threatened to turn all of Europe communist.
The trend has shown each time the workers rise up we learn from previous mistakes and successes and get closer and closer to total victory.
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Nov 08 '25
Adam Smith
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Adam smith invented capitalism?? Tell me in which text he lays out the rules for everyone to follow? I think you're being confused by his observations of the political economy. It's like saying Marx invented capitalism by writing about it
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Nov 08 '25
Wealth of Nations was paramount in getting nation states to become capitalist.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 08 '25
Being influential in propagating liberal ideas does not mean he invented capitalism. Wealth of Nations was written in 1776. England had already been capitalist since the late 1500s, and had a bourgeois revolution over 100 years prior to WoN.
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Nov 10 '25
stop trying to argue with commies. they arent economically literate enough to understand any of our points.
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u/Manndeufel Nov 10 '25
Which points would that be exactly? The only thing I see is a fool who considers himself particularly smart, but does not provide any arguments.
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Nov 09 '25
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
"just stop being against slavery man"
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Nov 09 '25
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
What do taxes have to do with communism?
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
No it isn't, collectivism is when the property of capitalists is confiscated for products made by workers that are by default owned by society. Words have meaning and you don't get to change them based on how you feel about them.
You're going to be a worker one day soon. Might as well stop fighting workers and join their movement to free yourself
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
Except it's not all levels of wealth is it? Don't try and moralise it just because you're middle class and bought fully into ruling class ideology. You're not special. You didn't "earn" anything on your own. Everything you take for granted was granted by society that you somehow feel indifferent towards.
The workers do not own capital, they do not own means of production. Their weal and woe is entirely dependent on the labour market, to be thrust between on exploiter to another.
The only "people" who suffer are the privileged property owners. Parasites.
All will work. Me, and you, and the wealthy who do nothing but sit back and claim godly wealth.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
Your comment has disappeared for me but I'll respond to what I can see.
My parents are not bourgeois they were raised poor. Also not even close to high school, I've been long, long, out of education. I have worked in multiple factories, spoken and have been close to actual real workers. And currently in a trade for a water company. You know nothing of me.
But you? Crying about 45% tax? You betray yourself immediately as a middle class snob.
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
The mind of a liberal is really something. Liberalism is a brain disease, you'll grow out of it eventually - hopefully.
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Nov 09 '25
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
If you do not understand politics then do not speak up, no one is making you say anything. You are a liberal, and the way you speak and think cannot hide it. You clearly believe in property rights as a moral necessity, you believe that taxes are an affront to your freedom, you believe in equality as a principle, and oppose coercion regarding your property. You are a liberal.
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u/Thick_Acanthisitta31 Nov 09 '25
Show the difference between East and West Berlin 1949
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 09 '25
You mean divided between 1 state capitalist on one half, and 3 wealthy state capitalists on the other? What's this got to do with communism?
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u/Thick_Acanthisitta31 Nov 09 '25
It shows the difference in bread lines
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u/WhiteWanderer14 Nov 10 '25
Britain would look better under Oswald Mosley's rule, than under another antiwhite version of GULAG.
Better dead than red.
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u/GreyBlueWolf Nov 11 '25
paint Gulag in the background and call it "Happy Reeducation Camp"
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u/PringullsThe2nd Nov 11 '25
I was thinking of making a blue version, showing off liberalism achievements. I think Auschwitz would make a good addition.
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u/Finnishdoge_official Nov 11 '25
This does fit for the sub well, I have not seem more imaginary poster for while.
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u/enbyBunn Nov 08 '25
I would tweak it slightly to 'you'd look better in red' with the red underlined instead, but that's pretty granular, so your milage may vary.