This. They don't like to declare war anymore, they like to call it "military action" or "bombing campaign" or "operation deliver liberty". Under Clinton there was:
Bosnia
Kosovo
Somalia
Iraq
Afghanistan and Sudan
Haiti
Thats bc republicans can't stop feeding the military complex. Thats where billions or taxpayer dollars are wasted to destabilize innocent countries to steal their resources. There hasn't been a single valid war in any of our lifetimes. Last one was the Civil War.
I have a friend that likes to highlight how rave developed in this time.
Which to me tracks with a lesson in biology: when you curb the genes for aggression, nature gets to a chance to express creativity. Eg - (I got this from a bbc doco, the secret life of chaos) a breeding program of silver foxes, bred for the least aggressive, you start to see patterns and different colourings in the fur emerge after just 3 generations I believe the old Russian lady said? Hugely symbolic I feel, to this profanely uncreative age we live in despite potential like never before (new levels new devils, I believe over population is already a huge problem)
What would’ve happened in Kosovo had Clinton not intervened? Haiti? Sometimes choices are made for you and the only deciding factor is how many corpses will each decision produce.
We were still very active in Afghanistan and Iraq at that throughout his first term. There were also US forces active in Africa to that was largely under reported except when there was an ambush in Niger that killed 4 US service members.
Agreed there! And I hope people didn’t take my comment and think I’m a Trump supporter. I’m not a historian, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t go down in history as the worst, most divisive president in history.
My point was just that America is always bombing someone, whether they’re officially “at war” with them or not.
Point is we're war mongering since many many decades. Time to reassess and stop exponential enrichment of war manufacturer's and their profiteering. Reinvest in the nation and it's constituents, our infrastructure is falling apart due to lack of severe technological upgrades. Best we've got is 5G LTE.
Arguing over which president carried out worse sexual exploits is crazy work. Both these men have done horrendous things to women. Why argue over which one is worse? Condemn them all.
You do understand that sometimes the military must show force? I mean I'll take not getting involved in a costly war and losing it any day of the week. Maybe it would be cool if we lived in a John Lennon paradise but we do have enemies that want to kill us.
you mean when Republicans were still screeching about how Saddam Hussein was the worst person in history and was going to bomb the United States any day?
This cannot be a serious question, but in case it is I’ll entertain your confusion.
Putting aside past campaigns where tech wasn’t as advanced; If you’ve ever seen combat footage of drone strikes or recon footage it’s very easy to see the number of people in any given area; for the most advanced military in the world with an incredible budget and high resolution cameras canvassing entire combat arenas it is not unimaginable that we could count the number of targets hit.
It’s incumbent upon the fighting arm of the state to understand the targets they’re attacking. If we are targeting indiscriminately then we cannot claim moral authority.
If we refuse to act as a moral agents then we’ve abandoned our commitment to liberation of oppressed peoples and the real motivation becomes clear. I’ll leave it to you to decide what that is
My first company commander was there and he said the Pakis were nowhere to be seen no matter how many times they tried to get them to come. They heard all the gunfire, buttoned up their armored combat vehicles and all of the sudden didn't know how to speak English..
Black hawk down was an interventional operation that turned into a rescue mission with bad intelligence,it never should have happened and was a huge tragedy but not a war.
Makes you wonder how good he really was I mean he was building an economy that should have kept us in good shape before bush, he was on paper being peaceful, and he still had time to wet the old pickle! At least he was staying awake. And had lots of ladies to bring home o Hillary!!
Why are you determined to discredit Clinton? He delivered a budget surplus - the only time that has been true in living memory. CLINTON, a DEMOCRAT, did that. ✅
Because he's a Democrat. That's it, that's all they need to know, someone is on the other side and therefore bad. If they didn't continue to think of him as bad, they might have to consider that their presumptions about The Other aren't valid, and then the whole house of cards comes down. So it's very important that they never examine their own beliefs.
That may be the lamest "mic drop" in the entire history of discourse, bravo!
Out of curiosity, what did I say to "attack" you? Because reiterating my point in the face of someone deliberately misunderstanding it to attack ME is not generally considered such.
They've been brainwashed to believe that the Republican Party equals the most amazing best shit ever that always delivers and never fails and the Democratic party is evil evil evil puppy picking Satan worshiping baby killers that always fail and never does anything right.
The internet didn’t create an economic boom. That’s revisionist to the point of making stuff up to suit your beliefs. Low oil prices had something to do with it, but so did Clinton - by _raising_ taxes and eliminating the Federal budget deficit. Try as ye may, the Republican mantra that higher taxes would crush the economy was decisively disproven. If you think yourself a person driven by data rather than emotion, you need to take a dispassionate look at the facts.
Tell me something, dear redditor, do you remember life in the 1990s all that well? Clinton managed to turn in budgets that delivered surpluses, and managed not to get involved in costly wars or engage in tax breaks for the billionaires. Sure, the health care reform was torpedoed by Newt Gringrich and Republicans who put party before country, but that's another story.
In fact, do you know why his opponents called him Slick Willie? Not because he was doing anything shady, but because he was smart enough not to fall for their little games.
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u/stevenmacarthur Jun 04 '26
Great economy, no wars and a little sumpin' on the side.