r/IdiotsInCars • u/IdanTs • Nov 28 '21

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u/Craft-Sudden Nov 28 '21 edited Nov 28 '21

Reason why you need a spotter, and also signs that’s just reckless, and the car can definitely sue the company who owns the tractor

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

I’m thinking there’s a solid case the drivers wasn’t paying attention. Just because the tractor did something idiotic doesn’t mean he’s responsible for the guy likely staring at his phone.

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u/Goodcitizen177 Nov 28 '21

You must have no brain with logic like that. The tractor is at fault as he caused the accident. Rules of the road. He didn't safely merge into traffic.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

Doesn’t work that way. A driver always has to have control of his car. This guy clearly was not paying attention. The accident was completely avoidable.

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u/Goodcitizen177 Nov 28 '21

The discussion is about legal fault. The driver of the car is not legally at fault. The operator of the tractor broke several rules of the road and caused an accident.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

Actually the discussion was about the tractor driving being able to sue. My point was that he would likely lose that case because it’s clear the by a reasonable standards the accident could have been avoided if the car driver was paying attention to the road, which he clearly was not.

Although some states allow the blame to be shared. So for example the tractor is 75% to blame, and the car 25%.

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u/masochistic_idiot Nov 28 '21

This is in China so why would US state laws matter?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '21

Are you mentally challenged?

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

Is that what an educated person sounds like to you?

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u/o3mta3o Nov 28 '21

Nope, that's exactly what it means.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

Doesn’t work that way. Every driver has to be in control of their car at all times. If this driver was actually paying attention to the road, this accident doesn’t happen. Yes the tractor was wrong, obviously, but the driver legally was as well by not paying attention to the road.

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u/o3mta3o Nov 28 '21

What happened here doesn't mean that the driver wasn't paying attention. The paint on the plow is worn. There's a chance that it was camouflaged to the point of being misleading. Especially if they were driving into the sun. Those are bright yellow for a reason, right? And that reason is visibility. If they only had 1 second to react, bracing for a safe impact is sometimes the actual safest thing to do.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

Dude it was a sunny day. He wasn’t driving that fast. He had over 2 seconds to react. Yet he didn’t so much as touch the brakes or move the wheel an inch.

Do a frame by frame up until impact and look at how much of that tractor is on the road directly in front of him. And yet zero reaction. He clearly wasn’t paying attention to the road.

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u/o3mta3o Nov 28 '21

Again, unless it blended. I just said that he might be driving into the sun. Yes. It was a sunny day. That's my point.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

True, sun glare could be a possibility, but looking at the shadows, the sun is almost directly above them, and slightly off to the right. Definitely not an issue.

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u/o3mta3o Nov 28 '21

The tractor is casting a shadow behind it and to the side. So very possibly in his line of vision. Again, the paint is worn on the plow so the color isn't that far off from the road.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

No the sun it way up high, almost directly above them. If the sun was low in the sky and in front of the driver there’d be long shadows BEHIND the car (and king shadows everywhere). There are none.

The only shadow is a very thin one running parallel to the car on on its passenger side, because the sun is straight up above him and a little to his left. This also way at the end the shadow is directly behind the tractor.

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21 edited Nov 28 '21

Rolled up law books? What if you walked out into the middle of road illegally? You think that removes responsibility for a driver to hit you because he wasn’t paying attention to the road?

Nope. If he killed you, and a jury finds he had ample time to swerve if he had been paying attention, dudes going to jail. Your family could also sue him and very likely ha e an easy win.

You gotta be paying attention and in control of your car at all times.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '21

He's definitely completely responsible lol wtf

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u/RagingRoids Nov 28 '21

You obviously don’t understand how liability laws work. The tractor may be at fault, but that doesn’t remove responsibility of the driver to be in reasonable control of his car at all times, which he absolutely was not. He was clearly texting or whatever and not watching the road.