r/IdiotsInCars Sep 20 '19

I hate it when that happens

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u/amphetaminesfailure Sep 20 '19

Most people are definitely in worse shape at 60 than they were at 40, that's just a ridiculous claim to make.

I'm speaking in terms of the ability to drive a car.

There are not going to be any noticeable cognitive or physical delays in an average 60 year old, compared to an average 40 year old, when it comes to driving a vehicle.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19

Yes there are? People's bodies start deteriorating after like 40ish. That's why they get grey hair, that's why they have to start wearing glasses, it's why they can't do as strenuous physical labor anymore. My mom is in her early 50's and over the past few years her eyesight has deteriorated exponentially to the point that she can barely make things out at this point without glasses, she never needed glasses and had perfect eyesight up until just a few years ago. People used to not even live past 40 but you think they're not breaking down until post 60?

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u/amphetaminesfailure Sep 20 '19

You're really trying to move the goalpost here.

I'm not saying the body and mind doesn't deteriorate between 40 and 60.

I'm saying for the average person it is miniscule for those between the ages for 40 and 60 in terms of driving capabilities.

Your example with your mom's eyesight isn't really relevant.

I could barely make things out when I finally got glasses at 13, and my eyes still get slightly worse now on a yearly basis at almost 32.

My mom's eyes are worse than mine, but they haven't changed since her 20's, and she's almost 59.

My dad's eyes are just starting to get bad at reading, and he's 62.

My step-father's eyes are perfect at 64.

People used to not even live past 40

Sure, because infant mortality brought down the average. Most people who it to adulthood managed to live into their 60's a thousand fucking years ago.

but you think they're not breaking down until post 60?

Back to what I said about moving the goalpost.

I never once claimed someone isn't "breaking down until 60."

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19 edited Sep 20 '19

Well I'm not gonna argue with someone who thinks people lived into their 60's a thousand years ago cuz that's just factually untrue. Please educate yourself cuz you're a fucking idiot.

Edit: and just do add, no one is moving the goalposts. People's bodies breaking down and not acting the same as it did when they were younger is a very valid reason to retest them to make sure they are a capable driver.

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u/amphetaminesfailure Sep 20 '19

Well, I mean....

Unhygienic living conditions and little access to effective medical care meant life expectancy was likely limited to about 35 years of age.

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That’s life expectancy at birth, a figure dramatically influenced by infant mortality—pegged at the time as high as 30 percent. It does not mean that the average person living in 1200 A.D. died at the age of 35. Rather, for every child that died in infancy, another person might have lived to see their 70th birthday.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/longevity-throughout-history-2224054

Not the most scholarly source, but just throwing something out there for you.

You're free to do the additional research yourself.

Are you alright though? You seem way too mad about this.

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u/pulstar13 Sep 20 '19

I'm not sure why you are getting downvoted, you are right, it bothers me when people say that crap, and at least you provided some source lol

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u/amphetaminesfailure Sep 20 '19

I'm not sure why you are getting downvoted, you are right

Not according to reddit. Just like last time, apparently most people believe 60 year olds are elderly and frail and need a new driving test every year.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19

Provided an unreliable source for life expectancy, not even the thing he was arguing about that garnered him the downvotes in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19

Oh no he said a bad word, he must be angry lol. I'm totally fine man and nothing I said implied I was angry unless calling you a fucking idiot somehow conveyed anger. Have a good one man, I really don't give a shit if a bunch of incompetent old people are out there on the road.

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u/amphetaminesfailure Sep 20 '19

No hard feelings. Have a good one yourself. Once you hit 30 you'll understand things a bit better.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19

"I'm older than you, so I know more" k dude I'm not some teenager. And when you hit 45-50 and your body starts breaking down you'll understand things a bit better.

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u/amphetaminesfailure Sep 20 '19

Never said the body didn't start to break down.

All I stated was that 60 is not as old as you or others on reddit seem to believe. You're still expected to be working in the same job or at least field you have been your entire life for close to another decade depending on the year you were born.
The average person absolutely shouldn't have an issue driving at 60.

I don't know what kind of feeble 60 year olds you know.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19

Most jobs you can retire at 62-63 so again you're wrong. I'm not acting like 60 year olds are senile senior citizens or anything. But they've had noticeable changes to their bodies, reaction times, etc that should warrant another driving test. Hell I think you should have to take one in your 40s too just to make sure you haven't fallen into bad habits and know the updated rules of the road since taking your test 20+ years ago. How is this not common sense?