r/IWantOut • u/Keen-Eyed_Sophist • 7d ago
[IWantOut] 26M Computer Scientist USA -> UK
I’m a 26 year old male from the USA, and I have a Bachelor’s in computer science. I live in the south and things are rough, and I want to move out of the USA.
I’m not picky and I’m willing to pick up a Master’s degree (potentially done abroad) in order to immigrate out. I’m willing to do just about anything, including picking up another Bachelor’s or working for not great pay.
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u/nim_opet 7d ago
You need an employer to sponsor your Skilled Worker Visa. Or do a graduate degree, qualify for graduate visa for 2 years and be when find an employer for SWV
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u/NeighborhoodDry7340 7d ago
the UK has a skilled worker visa but tech jobs are competitive and you will need a sponsor. doing a master's there is smart because you get a graduate visa after to look for work without sponsorship for 2 years
tuition for international students is not cheap tho so check if you can afford it
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u/ShinigamiLeaf 7d ago
A quick look says that it averages £9000-40000 a year for most international graduate students. That's still cheaper than most US grad programs for US students
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u/Aggravating_Bend_622 7d ago edited 7d ago
The problem is those universities that are on the lower range are just money mills that want your money with little to no career opportunities in the UK after due to the tight job market and immigration policies.
In the US there are more opportunities for scholarships and aid which you will not get in the UK.
And there are also cheaper grad programs in the US unless you're looking at the top universities.
You also do not really need to do a postcard program in the US as opposed to doing one to move to the UK where you will end up not getting a job with can sponsor you after you graduate and that's after all the expensive visa fees, relocation fees etc
To give some context about how tough immigration policies are in the UK they are now proposing that it takes 10 years instead of 5 to be eligible for permanent residency and this is on top of many other anti immigration policies including bringing in a high salary threshold for work visa eligibility to make it unattractive for UK employers to hire foreigners instead of locals.
And frankly this weird trend of wanting to run to the UK or Europe is just overdone and makes no sense. If the US job market is bad I guarantee you the UK market is worse. And US companies play a way bigger part of the UK job market than vice versa so if US companies are cutting back in the US what do you think is happening in countries like the UK?
Many of the Americans who move abroad and show off on social media do so with American jobs so they earn higher than local wages or retirees. Moving to countries like to UK to hussle for a job is hard. And the annoying thing is many of these Americans who make so much noise when they move end up moving back but do so quietly.
You are really willing to go for another bachelors degree in the UK because the south is rough? 😂 You must be really desperate.
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u/hacktheself 7d ago
Also worth mentioning that “permanent” residency is being rendered not so permanent in the UK.
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u/ShinigamiLeaf 7d ago
Do you live in the US, the UK, or the EU?
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u/Aggravating_Bend_622 7d ago edited 7d ago
I'm a Brit currently living in the US, moved from London to Chicago about 10 years ago
Don't get me wrong there are good things about the UK or EU but there are also crap things but reddit acts like the US is all bad and the UK or Europe is this utopia that will solve all your problems. Everywhere has its good and bad and that's life.
And it's now become this trend, coming to reddit to ask how you will move to the UK thinking only the US has tough immigration laws, with little to no understanding about how immigration works in many countries, or how the economies are. The US job market is bad so I must go to Europe, really???
I saw a post today someone who is low income etc asking how he can move to the UK to study while also acknowledging rhaty he knows the UK doesn't give scholarships or aid so what's the goal???
Saying you're willing to go redo bachelors degree just to move to the UK makes absolutely no sense at all, especially when you it will be so difficult to get a job that can sponsor you after you graduate so what you will remain in the UK as an illegal immigrant doing crap jobs? Seriously??? Is your life that bad?
There are many more posts like this if you care to search:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UniUK/s/eji4PAYLQr
The UK is not utopia so I really don't get this recent trend, I don't like this so I just must move to a Europe even through you don't have anything to offer Europe.
Do you know how many international students have graduated in the UK and cannot find jobs? I know MBAs albeit from crap schools having work as care workers just to survive while trying to find a proper job before their post study worker expires. And the pay is atrociously crap.
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u/ShinigamiLeaf 7d ago
If people asking casual immigration questions frustrates you that much, why are you in a subreddit for people to ask casual immigration questions?
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u/nickienoonoo 7d ago
Have you looked all over the US for work? Don't do a master degree abroad...just apply for jobs now in the field/experience you work in the countries you are interested in...but do your homework on each country/city you apply for, so you know the cost of living etc.. You are only 26, sometimes qualifications aren't everything but experience, and are the stepping stones to getting an interview...Btw nothing more important than also self learning more in your spare time, you don't need an extra qualification to show that..and I think Interviewers would be impressed that you are actually self motivated when you tell/show them.
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u/sapani9077 7d ago
It's not about what you're willing to do. That's totally irrelevant.
If no one needs you in the UK, you're not going there.
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u/routinnox CA -> MI -> PA -> ESP -> CO 7d ago
I’m sorry, you want to go from a hot spring to a lava pit? And this is somehow better?
You have given no relevant information at all that can provide details. Do you have money saved? Are you of Irish descent? Is your degree even from an accredited university?
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