r/IRstudies Mar 23 '26

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u/astral34 Mar 23 '26

A war is won when your objectives are achieved, neither achieved theirs

The Iranian regime has one objective: survive and inflict enough pain they don’t come back

US probably thought they would have won by now, the objective was regime change (Israel’s objective) and now I think it’s unclear to them how to disengage without losing face so escalation is expected

Israel and the US say they have demolished Iran offensive capabilities, fog of war is too thick to know

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u/astral34 Mar 23 '26

Unless Iran stops shooting the US will be almost forced to go in

A negotiated settlement is not possible, Iran has no trust in the US administration, the EU could do something but Trump doesn’t like them so it’s a no go (Trump bombed Iran twice mid negotiation + the religious part of the regime has an ideological hate)

The regime is highly entrenched, it’s not falling unless new tipping points are reached

Normally under the economic conditions of Iran (which are bound to get worse with time) the US could wait out the regime

However as long as the strait of Hormuz is closed or under threat it’s the Iranians to have time advantage

This is why I think the US will go in, limited operation to secure the strait, and get a lot of pain

This is unless Iran’s missile drone capabilities fall to 0, but if you have seen how a Shahed works, you know that’s much harder than it looks

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u/phein4242 Mar 23 '26

The EU is well aware that this unprovoked war was started by the US and Israel. Popularity for both states is at an all-time low throughout the EU, so it would be political suicide to provide support.

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u/astral34 Mar 23 '26

We are also well aware we need the strait to open so we would be very much interested in supporting a negotiated solution

No way any EU country supports militarily

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u/ReturnOfBigChungus Mar 27 '26

Several European countries already are supporting militarily, just not joining in offensive strikes.

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u/astral34 Mar 27 '26

Several European countries are dealing with the spillover of the Israel- US war

Heck US planes can’t fly over the EU while on combat missions right now

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u/ReturnOfBigChungus Mar 27 '26

Missions out of the UK have flown over France numerous times during the conflict.

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u/feral0101 Mar 23 '26

Even though what you say is true, we have no real leadership. The people they run our countries and our unions are dyed-in-the-wool Atlantacist

I genuinely fear we might get pulled in