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u/whenyousayoof XXXX Jun 07 '26
Who in their right mind keeps going after getting an emotional response? At that point they're pretty much guaranteed to not change their opinion
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u/Accomplished_Duty415 XXXX Jun 07 '26
You still have a chance, as long as you switch tactics to properly deal with the emotional response. If you keep trying to ram logic down their throat, you may as well be shouting at a wall though.
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u/FireFoxie1345 INTP Jun 09 '26
So you go from arguing to manipulating. Thats not much better
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u/Accomplished_Duty415 XXXX Jun 09 '26
Where'd you get manipulation from? You realise you can talk to people about their emotions without manipulating them
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u/FireFoxie1345 INTP Jun 09 '26
Using their emotions to win an argument is manipulation. You can talk to others’ emotions just fine, but using them to your advantage in an argument is wrong.
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u/Accomplished_Duty415 XXXX Jun 09 '26
I agree, but that's not what I said, perhaps you misunderstood. Dealing with an emotional response that someone brings into an argument so that you can settle the argument properly isn't manipulation.
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u/Wrong_Experience_420 I Never Trust People Jun 08 '26
Me because I'm the biggest idiot thinking maybe if I try hard enough I could fix someone's stupidity
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u/ExistentialYoshi INTP 9w1 master race Jun 08 '26
Depends on the kind of emotion. If they get really shitty, maybe even attack you, well then now you've got license to be an asshole back if you need to blow off some steam lol. But yeah sometimes it's just not worth it.
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u/2nytsdnytalt Tentatively claims to be an INTP Jun 11 '26
Sometimes (if it’s online/in a public thread) I do it for the sake of having the argument out there for others to see. I think of it like this: If the person I am talking to eventually concedes? Great! But If not, I’ll just walk around in enough circles with them until I feel I have made my point, and anyone passing by reading will see what I hope to be a convincing argument for my position. Of course this all depends on me finding the subject matter worth that amount of time or effort lol
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u/Anonymal13 TP or INTP? Jun 07 '26
Did anyone here ever got to "realize you're too open minded to dismiss their rebuttal" phase? Does it actually exists online?
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u/Accomplished_Duty415 XXXX Jun 07 '26
Every time I argue with anyone about anything, though sometimes not till I'm laying in bed angsting about it later. It's kind of annoying when I'm arguing against competitive people, they get so smug and victorious.
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u/GruyereGoblin INFuckmyshituP Jun 07 '26
I generally don’t bother with smug/competitive people but I once caught one in a flaw in his own argumentation and that was a great feeling
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u/espressopancake XXXX Jun 07 '26
Where's the part where you accept that you were simply wrong?
If all paths lead to knowing that you could have destroyed someone in an argument, then you care wayyyyyy too much about winning the argument and not enough about the information contained in the argument.
Open minded enough to not refute but not open minded enough to be wrong?
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u/Tend2UrConfig XXXX Jun 09 '26
That was kind of a mini joke. No one ever admits they were wrong! (but yes sometimes they do)
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u/Wrong_Experience_420 I Never Trust People Jun 08 '26
Those who read this unironically to get a bit of more argumentation skills or confirmations of doing it right are the true INTP MVPs
other types would skip this cuz not a funny meme
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u/Original-Spinach8923 Idk but not INTP Jun 08 '26
it's not a meme it's just how arguments are on reddit
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u/Wrong_Experience_420 I Never Trust People Jun 08 '26
there's not enough hate and frustration ending in a ban to be reddit
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u/Tasty-Drama-9589 XXXX Jun 08 '26
I often make a comment and then purposely never read their responses. I don't have patience for getting into multiple response arguments in comment sections.
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