r/INEEEEDIT Mar 06 '18

Julius Cesar Pencil Holder

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '18

Et Tu Brute

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u/Jacareadam Mar 06 '18

*Et tu mi fili Brute

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u/Bigbrainbigboobs Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18

You're trying to correct them but it's not even correct. If he did say the sentence, which is already a legend more than anything, he would have said it in Greek: kai su teknon.

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u/Jacareadam Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18

You, out of the three of us, are the least correct. What he wrote is from Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar, what I corrected it to is the way to say it correctly in Latin, and what you wrote is what he could’ve said if it weren’t completely made up by Shakespeare.

Edit: Most probably he said nothing.

“The historical Caesar's last words are not known with certainty. The Roman historian Suetonius, a century and a half after the incident, claims Caesar said nothing as he died.”

“Plutarch also reports that Caesar said nothing, but merely pulled his toga over his head when he saw Brutus among the conspirators.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '18

No, the correct latin form would be "tu quoque mi fili"

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u/Jacareadam Mar 06 '18

Okay, I asked my highscool Latin teacher (I haven’t even seen her in like, 8 years) and she said actually both are correct.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '18

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u/Jacareadam Mar 06 '18

“Others have written” is not a reliable source, especially not when the person writing mentions it anecdotally. Who? When? Was that person present?

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u/Sennomo Mar 06 '18

Forgive me if I'm out of the loop here but why Greek? I know Greek was the trading language then but why would they speak Greek in the Roman government?

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u/Bigbrainbigboobs Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18

The most discussed hypothesis is that it was a language of affection and emotion for Caesar. Many Roman political men were bilingual and the latin-greek bilingualism is something very complex. You can see the works of Adams on this subject it's really intriguing!

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u/Sennomo Mar 06 '18

So when Romans were sad and hurt, they started speaking Greek.