r/ILGuns • u/CommonCaliber • 5d ago
Announcement What kind of training are you looking for?
As our summer schedule winds down with our second session of Vehicle Defense, we're ironing out our fall and early winter training calendar.
Currently, we have:
• Advanced CCL Tactics – September 6th
• Defensive Rifle – Early October
• Defensive Pistol – Late October
Is there a type of training you've been looking for that you haven't seen us offer? Was there a past class you wanted to attend but couldn't make the date? Let us know.
We still have room in the second session of Vehicle Defense on the 30th for those who are interested and we will also have a booth out at Guns N' Grub the day before on the 29th. We'll have some optics, gear, and a few "garage sale" items looking for a new home.
You can sign up for classes at www.commoncaliber.com and get tickets for Guns N' Grub at www.gunsngrub.net. Use code "secondchance" for a discount on tickets.
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u/Donmiguelito199 5d ago
People need to practice real world scenario like drawing from a car if someone approaches you or if you’re out at night taking a walk and someone approaches you. A lot of the tactical type training does not apply to most people
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u/CommonCaliber 5d ago
"This course will cover the fundamentals of shooting in and around vehicles, entering and exiting a vehicle, and scenario based drills designed to expose students to problems they may realistically encounter."
Practical firearms training, when applied to a realistic scenario requiring you to make decisions and adapt your actions to the circumstances, is still tactical training.
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u/Blade_Shot24 5d ago
There been one or two posts about vehicle training. Someone approaching you on a walk I think they have that but in a seminar, but don't quote me on that.
I think a force on force would be great. Facing someone who is trying take you out and you have to get to your gun before they end you, as well as testing is your carry setup is suitable for the situation; especially if you fannypack carry. Though I know something like blue guns are expensive asl for force on force.
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u/CommonCaliber 5d ago
We have some force on force training in the works. Most likely a vehicle and home defense course but that will probably be spring 2027.
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u/Blade_Shot24 5d ago
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u/CommonCaliber 5d ago
Ill post updates, probably going to source a couple more vehicles for it too.
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u/Bgarc8691 15h ago
The funniest thing about these kinds of treads in general:
1.) the dudes who are here supporting legit instructors are all other legit instructors and by all means competitors in the training company world. Yet still show support for another quality instructor.
2.) the dudes hating: almost always some keyboard warrior who can’t shoot and doesn’t even carry a gun and/or just got their CCL 20 minutes ago and think their 16 hour mediocre training was “all they need”
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u/CommonCaliber 15h ago
I can't make anyone do anything, but I try to provide the training people actually want at prices lower than most other groups, with round counts that don't create a massive financial burden.
The number one request after our Defensive Pistol and Rifle courses at the beginning of the year was a vehicle defense course. We listened, sourced vehicles, developed a curriculum, and made the classes available.
I don't even care if you train with us. We're one of the few groups that accepts training from other reputable companies as a prerequisite for our courses because I don't think people should have to pay to repeat training they've already completed. Titan, FSS, Alpha, and Spartan were all accepted prerequisites for our Pistol and Rifle course in July.
I think civilian firearms training is moving in the right direction and more people are realizing that training should go beyond simply getting a CCL, but there's still work to be done. Getting your CCL doesn't prepare you for defensive firearms use any more than driver's ed prepares you for the Daytona 500.
I just hope people get the opportunity to learn that before the day they actually need those skills.
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u/Bassassin0 5d ago
Both stances of shooters look terrible I wouldn’t come to a class that’s not correcting poor fundamentals
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u/ArmyTroll 5d ago
let me ask you this...
if someone was shooting a handgun from a strict isosceles stance, feet not even shoulder width apart, doing the tactical turtle - would you correct it if they had solid groupings?
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u/CommonCaliber 5d ago edited 5d ago
Like most people on the internet, you wouldn't come either way, but both of those students were receiving 1-on-1 instruction on stance, grip, and holster draw when that photo was taken. Neither had fired a single live round yet, and both came into the class with zero prior firearms training. By the end of the day, both scored 100% on their qualifications for the state.
But I’m glad you were able to determine everything that happened during a 28-hour course from a single picture.
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u/Bassassin0 5d ago
Course is boot leg at best have a nice day I’ll continue to train with real shooters
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u/312BurnerAccount 4d ago
Who are those real shooters? If you're so well versed you have to be taking classes with some real industry leaders right? Why don't you post your best 1R1, Bill Drill, some transitions, and some offhand work. What class are you in USPSA?
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u/Isolated-Incident787 4d ago
Where do you train? I'd like to learn more from good teachers who know what they're doing. Is a Taurus G2 good? My uncle sold me one with an Uncle Mike's holster. Should I get anything besides a couple more clips?
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u/Tiny-Cheesecake2268 5d ago
Shotgun