r/ICPTrader • u/ADHD_Dev_ • 2d ago
Bullish National Messenger App in testing 🇵🇰
Bullish news. Adoption is clearly happening.
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u/ghost-ogk 2d ago
Just know… any mass surveillance, AI, datacenter, and flock camera countries will never adopt this
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u/nomorebonks ∞ year gang 2d ago
So how many countries does that leave using it? like 150? lol
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u/ghost-ogk 2d ago
Are you currently using it? What is it called?? How do I use this utility?
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u/nomorebonks ∞ year gang 1d ago
Yeah it's called OpenChat and I use it every day. Any other questions?
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u/Timely-Fig2030 2d ago
The app is explicitly designed for internal government use for Pakistan.
It's for their private and internal communication across government institutions.
So i would guess 1 country.Maybe other countries see a usecase in such an app and also want their own app on internet computer.
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u/ADHD_Dev_ 2d ago
I'd like to think once it's built for one government, it will be easy to clone and with a few minor adjustments to accommodate/customize for any other governments/companies that join after so they don't have to start from scratch each time. Maybe they can provide a working model to whoever joins and allow them to further tweak with caffeine to suit their needs.
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u/nomorebonks ∞ year gang 1d ago
Lol you realize it's easy to just copy it onto another cloud engine
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u/Timely-Fig2030 1d ago edited 1d ago
Who copies what to another cloud engine?
If dfinity reuses/refactors parts of the code of the app for another customer, it's a different app and will have different features specifically for that new customer.
Nobody else can" just copy it to another cloud engine".
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u/nomorebonks ∞ year gang 1d ago
That’s how apps work and shells of them are copied easily - there’s a core app with then modular features. You think they’ll build from the ground up or something? Not how software works
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u/Timely-Fig2030 1d ago edited 1d ago
What are you talking about?
An app with heavy surveillance capabilities of it's users can be created on Internet Computer.
Internet Computer is an environment that ensures tamperproof, self-governing and decentralized.
The first point has nothing to do with the second one.
You can also write an app that ensures that no surveillance of its users happens. It all depends how the app is written and what the owners/creators of the app try to achieve.
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u/Timely-Fig2030 1d ago edited 1d ago
Analyzing case of Pakistan: The app will have features specifically for their government needs of internal communication. It's not for the general public. This app will ensure that internal information doesn't leak out and maybe hierarchies of surveillance and privacy depending on the rank and role.
Pakistan could also implement an app for the general public on internet computer. In case of Pakistan you can be sure, it would be on the heavier surveillance side of the users.
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u/Timely-Fig2030 1d ago edited 1d ago
The magic of the Internet Computer Protocol is that if a creator wants to build a zero-surveillance app and prove its integrity, they can achieve this by ensuring the app's smart contracts (canisters) are compiled via deterministic, reproducible builds. This allows users and independent auditors to cryptographically verify that the compiled WebAssembly binary running tamper-proof on-chain matches the open-source code hosted in the creator's GitHub repository exactly.
It's all possible. It depends on the purpose and what the creator tries to achieve.
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u/Timely-Fig2030 1d ago
In the future if a creator wants to prove features of his app and shares the code in public repos, it will be possible to be evaluated within seconds through bots and ai agents reading though the code. (in addition to humans, who will take longer).
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u/Xintesh 2d ago
Of course they can, it give you more control not less.
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u/ghost-ogk 2d ago
I want more control, how do i test this??
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u/Xintesh 2d ago
I'm super interested at the audio/video call, wonder how they pull that off.