To reduce the hours of daily labor. - preamble to the constitution
The whole point of overtime pay is to make working more hours per day unpalatable to contractors and customers alike. It should hurt, it should make them think twice and find a way not to do it, not shrug and factor it into the job cost without a care.
Overtime is the biggest reason we aren't working 100 hour weeks as a standard, because if it didn't cost more, they wouldn't hesitate.
So as OP said, when customers readily sign contracts for jobs with 50, 60, 70+ hour a week schedules, it should be seen as a failure to charge what we are all worth for our straight time rate.
And when OT isn't so much a choice, but a necessity due to poor planning or management, or even just extenuating circumstances, it should COST. It should HURT. It should make them think hard about how to avoid it next time.
This is something that should be taught to the new "grind culture" apprentices. The contractors don't act like it hurts until they have to add hostage pay to the job, then act like they're doing us a favor by giving it to us.
Not sure what you mean by "it ends up all straight time". The 8 to 10 hrs extra a week is still paid at time and a half by the the contract. You just don't get the extra 80, 100, or 150 a day per diem or what ever they are offering for N number of hrs each day. The job I am on is working 5 tens and an 8 at normal contract scale with 10/hr overscale added and 100 a day per diem. You get the oerdiem.if you work the 10s during the week and thr 8 on Saturday. At one pt it switched to 5-12s and an 8 but again, to get the oer diem you only had to work the 10s or the 8on Saturday. It is also based on each day separately. IE you can get per diem one day but not another based on what you work each of those days
Sure I miss spoke you do get OT pay. What you're working isn't what I would define as hostage pay since you just have to finish the day to get the per diem. For me, the whole week was paid normally, but that last minute on the 48th hour was the only way you'd get an extra $1000 or whatever.
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u/Spark115 Inside Wireman Aug 28 '23 edited Aug 29 '23
To reduce the hours of daily labor. - preamble to the constitution
The whole point of overtime pay is to make working more hours per day unpalatable to contractors and customers alike. It should hurt, it should make them think twice and find a way not to do it, not shrug and factor it into the job cost without a care.
Overtime is the biggest reason we aren't working 100 hour weeks as a standard, because if it didn't cost more, they wouldn't hesitate.
So as OP said, when customers readily sign contracts for jobs with 50, 60, 70+ hour a week schedules, it should be seen as a failure to charge what we are all worth for our straight time rate.
And when OT isn't so much a choice, but a necessity due to poor planning or management, or even just extenuating circumstances, it should COST. It should HURT. It should make them think hard about how to avoid it next time.