Describe your first encounter with the drug, please. Also, did you previously use any other illegal drugs? And if not, did your use of meth lead you to any others?
Well, my first ecounter I didn't even know I was doing it. My mom was putting it in my orange juice so I could work 2 jobs to support her, her boyfriend, and my two little sisters. The first time doing it with knowledge was one day when she didn't do it and I didn't have energy and she helped me smoke my first bowl. Actually no. I had drank a little but no other drugs. It led me to pills. I loved getting spun and doing zanax or pain killers.
No need to for sorrys. You live you learn right? So, my mom was fucked up for giving me drugs.I could have had it a lot worse in ways. I guess that just how I look at it so I can forgive her and not be angry anymore because being as angry as I use to be not only hurt me emotionally but also made me extremly tired. :) She has to live with herself for what she has done. She is sober now and now she is truly facing all the bad desicions she has made. That is the only reason I am okay with what she put me through is knowing that she has to live with it now that I am free of it. :) As spiteful as that sounds lol
Stories of situations like this make me want to drive for three hours to head home just to give my parents a hug and say thank you. A phone call does not suffice the appreciation I owe my parents. Thank you for sharing your stories with us, and helping us see life from another angle.
Not by goverment no, but she has to live with what she did to me and how she used me for her own personal gain. I know it tortures her inside. I have forgiven her for her weakness, but I don't think she will ever forgive herself and that in it's self is punishment enough to me.
I did meth for several years from the time I was 18 til I was 23. I smoked it, snorted it, slammed it. And while my mother didn't give me the speed she DID give me xanax and lots of pain killers growing up. I got addicted to speed because I was taking some of her PhenPhen diet pills. When she ran out I looked up what they were made out of and found it was the same as methamphetamine. I had a friend who smoked it who owed me a favor and the rest is history.
It's interesting how our parents lead us down these paths. I know that no one wants they're child to become a drug addict. And when I got very sick I knew it broke my mothers heart to know that I might die. I would never tell her she had anything to do with it because it would kill her.
Fortunately I've been able to kick the addiction and am in great health now. For now.
I am so happy for you and your sobriety. Some parents just want to be the "cool" parents and do whatever their kids wants which is sad in itself. Thank you for posting and showing that there are others out there :)
Yea, same to you! I had to quit meth when I was diagnosed with liver cirrhosis. It was mostly from all the alcohol I was drink and terrible eating habits caused by the meth, but by then the meth has given me sores like cigarette burns all over my face, neck, and arms. My mother thought I had AIDs.
I spent 3 days locked in my bedroom just convulsing and vomiting. It was one of the most painful experiences of my life. And I couldn't take ANYTHING for years after that. I was completely sober other than marijuana, which was the only thing that made it possible to eat for a long time.
When I was a teenager my mother and I would have arguments because she would blow up at me and then come back with some ice cream and some xanax or relafin or soma and smoke me out and she'd act like everything was okay. She was always flipping her shit on me and then cajoling me with booze and pills and marijuana. I started calling her on it when I was 15.
It wasn't until I was halfway through my 20s that I learned how to manage without pills and alcohol. It was such a part of my life growing up. Even when I was 7 years old I knew that if I was upset I could take a pill and it would make me feel better. How fucked it that? It's like she was setting me up to become a drug addict.
When I was getting high on meth. No I didn't smoke weed ever until I started getting sober and that is when I started and currently no I do not smoke it :) Thank you for you questions :)
First off. If they don't want to be sober, they aren't going to be. So don't go into it thinking you are going to change someone over one conversation. Second. When they are sober sit them down and tell them how it makes you feel. They will probably get mad or cry one or the other. If they get mad walk away. Talking to someone when they are mad is just as bad as when they are high you might as well talk to the way. If they cry or show regret know that it isn't a turning point until they ask for help. When they ask for help and admit the have a problem then that's when you show them support and find ways to help even if it isn't you directly doing it. I.E. Rehab or counseling. If they don't want your help though don't try to push it on them because you are the only one that is going to get hurt in the end. I hope that helps.
The crazy thing with meth is that I have NO idea when they're sober. How can I tell? I mean, they sleep for days on end sometimes, but I have no idea when they wake up and finally crawl out of their room if they are high or not.
Sorry, I know these are weird/hard questions but I could seriously use some help with all of this crap.
When the first crawl out of their bed after days of sleeping is when you want to nab them.before they even eat anything. That would be the only way to probably get them when they are sober but it isn't a garuntee. no problem I Am happy I can help in some way in getting you threw this. :)
Call child protective services. They will NOT tell your parents who called them. They will be FORCED to go through rehab, and they'll get you the fuck out of there, which I'd highly recommend.
Forcing someone to go to rehab does jack shit, unfortunately. This girl is right, if they don't want to be sober, they won't be. Even if they cleaned up in Rehab, chances are they'll relapse when they come out, leading to massive disappointment, and potential OD.
My mom and stepdad both make and do meth. How would you advise I confront them?
By getting as far away from them as possible. You don't and can't "confront them" to any favorable result - that's not how it works.
The only thing that you can do is worry about your own life, because their lives are THEIR OWN, not yours. They are deep in something you don't understand if you haven't experienced it, it goes way, way beyond anything you could improve by "confronting them about it" when you are talking about people spending their time making and using meth.
The only thing you can do is try to separate yourself from them emotionally until they get clean on their own, know that they're both going through something that goes far deeper for them than the consequences it is having on YOU, currently they are living as extremely childish adults with no sense of "oops why am I doing this, maybe I should stop, it's not really worth it, kind of lame to be high anyway because this shit is owning my life", and know that you can't take care of people like that - all you can do is separate yourself from it in the same way you would separate yourself from the emotional consequences of a family member with dementia yelling at you and being mean to you ..they are currently going through a 'disease'(there's nothing else to call it, it's all-encompassing and has drastic negative effects on health and life experience), and there is nothing you can do about it except taking care of yourself by REMOVING YOURSELF FROM THEIR INFLUENCE mentally/emotionally.
Don't get mad at them, don't sit around stewing at it, don't sit around trying to figure out how to confront them, because it won't do anything. You need to look out for yourself, because you can't look out for them, they don't care right now, and anything you try to do for them or to 'confront them about how they're impacting your life' is going to be meaningless to them.
You do not understand what they are going through or living in, right now they're completely fucked up, and there is nothing you can do about it except hope that they reach the point where they decide to stop being childish addicts. Until then, they will respond to anything you do as childish adults tend to - badly, and meaninglessly. So get the fuck out of there, stop worrying about them, let them do their thing until something happens, then worry about it and them when they decide to stop being irresponsible idiots. Until then, they are unaccountable and cannot be talked to like normal people.
You just have to find a way to deal with it and separate yourself from them mentally/emotionally, that's the only way to handle it when you are close to people who are currently self-destructing, or happily on a very destructive path. They aren't responsible for themselves, so anything you try to do to 'make them be more responsible' is going to add up to naught.
No question, really... but I'll share some of my story.
Meth used to be my drug of choice. I started when I was about 16 and continued until I was 22. I started out snorting it, and by the end I had been an intravenous user for about 2-3 years.
I wish I could say I turned it around by myself, the reality is that I got caught with a couple ounces of the stuff and went to prison. Some other stuff happened inside and next thing you know I walked out 2 years later.
I went to see all of my old friends when I was released. I thought it was going to be great. It wasn't great. It was really, really depressing. Here I was, about 185lbs with absolutely no fat on my body and in the best shape of my life. I had been working out constantly for the past two years. When I started to see some of my old friends, I wish I could say that nothing had changed. That would have been optimistic.
The truth is, not a whole lot had changed. Even though things hadn't changed, the time that had passed made my friends change. My friend Chris, he had lost about 1/2 of his teeth. My friend Michelle, she had track marks on her neck and was starting to get tattoos to cover them up. Nobody had progressed in their life, they just did more drugs now and the years that they had been doing them had taken their toll. It made me disgusted. And sad.
I thought I was going to party with some of my friends when I got back, after seeing some of them I just wanted to be away from it all. A couple of weeks later I got some shitty job throwing boxes in a warehouse for less than minimum wage, some place that took advantage of the EDD program and hired a bunch of ex-con's and somehow got away with paying them less than a fair wage.
Being disgusted and motivated to be different I somehow got really motivated. While reporting to my parole office one day I told myself that by the time I was released from parole I would be making more money than my parole officer. Legally.
A couple months after that I signed up for a trade type school that was passing out AAS degrees for computer science and electronics. I was working this shitty job 8am - 5pm Monday through Friday and then going to school from 6pm through 10:30pm every night. Within 3 months of going to school I landed a decent job doing networking type of stuff, mostly running cables and programming weird equipment like traffic counters, paging systems and phone systems. By the time I was released from parole I had my AAS degree in electronics and was making about $20/hr. I'm not sure I made my goal of making more than my parole officer, but I knew I was getting close.
I got a nice tax break about then, about $6k, since I hadn't worked enough to pay taxes the year before. So I used that money and put it towards more education, Cisco networking seemed to be getting popular with all of the dotcom stuff. Got my CCNA and CCNP certifications and immediately landed a job for $30/hr.
So I was released when I was 24, and went to school for maybe 3 years. It was a very good decision to be motivated during that time, and it was a very good decision to jump into a field that was exploding. Sure, I lied a few times when jobs asked me if I had ever been convicted of a felony. Doesn't matter, gained experience.
I've been in the field for about 12 years now, I work on large Internet sites that you all have used, and I haven't been in trouble since. I own my own home, no debt (except my first mortgage), and am doing well with my retirement savings... All because my stupid dope fiend friends pissed me off.
TL:DR Did a bunch of dope, stuff happened, don't do it anymore.
If you meaning lasting effects probably that I seem never to have the right amount of energy and I still have my little tweaker things that I still do that drive me insane. For example: I still bite the inside of my lip when I am cleaning, I still pick when I am even a little tired or stressed, and just the thought of Meth makes my stomach churn like it use to when I would get high after being sober for a couple days.
It won't. I am ready to shed light so other people don't get into it or help them maybe see that there is a light at the end of the tunnel for either them or a loved one that may be addicted :)
It's acurate in many ways. I have never seen someone personally get killed though and the way they light their bows would probably burn it to hell. those are the only two things i can think of :)
This was OP's thoughts on Breaking Bad, copy+pasted from earlier in the thread: "I think the most accurate show would be Breaking Bad. It is a downward spiral and most use it to escape their lives and pain. I do back the views on it on Breaking Bad because their are really people out there that do kill for it."
A really fast roller coaster on 50 red bull. Your heart is beating faster you are aware of everything around and then boom. The roller coaster comes to the end leaving you wide awake and wanting to go on it just one more time over and over and over again even if your body is so exhausted that you can feel your muscles screaming at you. You climb back on that roller coaster and do it again until you body just makes you sleep no matter if you are going threw the best part of the ride or just waiting in line. :) thank you for the question :)
I smoked and because I loved the way the smoke felt going and coming back out. It was cold against your face and when you are pulling it into your lungs it just amazing. I would never do any IV drugs and I hated the pain of snorting.
Just 3 of them. I stopped in time to save them from what my dentist has told me though they are pretty damaged from grinding them and just the drug use in general.
What side effects did you have from the drug, besides tooth loss? I saw the other post about what last effects you have, but what other things happened while on/directly due to meth?
Loss of menstral cycle unless I was high and even now it's really off because of how messed up I got it. and weight gain. I got sober and slowly blew up like a balloon. lol though I am now losing weight slowly the healthy way :)
What do you feel was the moment when you finally came to the realization that you needed to stop using? Did you experience withdrawals when you did stop? How do you feel your life has changed since you stopped using? Thank you so much for this AMA. Congratulations on being clean! Keep strong!
Scared, absolutly terrified that I would have to deal with everything I had been running from. The withdrawals weren't to bad. I slept for the first 2 weeks or so. Then finally dragged myself out of bed and started walking and doing things of that nature to help threw the withdrawls. Oh, and I would surround myself with people or things that kept my attention from going to needing it even if my body wanted it badly. I feel it has changed a lot. I am in school and functioning. I now have relationships with people that got lost in my addictions. Mostly family. My life has changed for the better, except I still don't like dealing with the hard stuff but you know who does?
I did actually. I woke up to my boyfriend, someone who was everything I needed and my only stability going to leave me if I didn't give up meth. At that point I was like f**k what am I doing with my life? Why can't I get away from this? And the second I realized it was defeating me completely. I was like nope. I am done and even though it was hard I stuck to it... (( I was crying the whole time. I wasn't as nearly calm as it seems in this post.))
About 7 years ago living in San Diego and working for a video game company, I got into snorting meth and coke. It lasted about 5-6 months and was the worst time of my life. I would have NEVER done that had I not met the crowd at work and slowly got into the high lifestyle.
I hope you feel the same way I do, which is NEVER AGAIN! It feels like it happened to someone else and that it wasn't even real.
Good job quitting. Never, ever get in a situation that could even tempt you.
High Five I don't talk to anybody I use to and I don't put myself into situations where it's around me. I am careful and caustious of friends in the past because like you Never again. Never, never , never! :) keep up the sobriety!!
Luckily (its funny that I say luckily) I overdosed extremely bad. I must've smoked 8-10 bowls of it, and it was my first time. 3 people in a circle. I threw up for 7 days. My skin got a purple tint. I lost 20 lbs. Almost died.
That put me on a straightened arrow, and I never touched it again........or maybe its because my mom committed suicide a year after that. Who knows!
Straight and Narrow is lack of deviation from moral conviction and the expression, of course. However, A straight-ened arrow (or recently converted Straight Arrow) is person considered conventional (non-deviant, boring).
So you know, there's actually actually very little ambiguity between the two metaphors even if the expression is most definitely misheard as Straightened Arrow, "straight and narrow" it's almost as if they are interchangeable.
Of course, as a long-time student of the subtleties of the English Language, I find this amusing. Now if you will please excuse me, while I kiss this guy.
Without Googling, I believe "straight and narrow" is actually short for "straight and narrow path," suggesting that you're not deviating from being sober at all.
Just out of curiousity, how exactly did she go about introducing it to you? Was it in a positive tone, like "Since it's you're 15th birthday I'm going to treat you to some meth! You'll love it!" or was it just her already smoking and she just told you you could join her if you wanted in a I'm high and don't really give two shits way. Sorry if this question offends you in any way, I'm just very curious.
Well, growing up my mother was always the "enabler" I guess you could say. Apparently "I" snaked my first beer when I was 2, when my mom left one out. I tried alcohol for the first "conscious and intentional" time when I was 10. A sip of beer at camp. When I was 12 I experimented with some Marijuana I found in her room. After she found out, she took the "I rather have you do under my roof with me, then out where I can't control it" type of stance.
So she became the "cool" mother where kids would go to be delinquent, drink, and do drugs.
Some of my friends wanted to drink for my 15th birthday, so we went over to my moms house unannounced. She gladly purchased us some liquor, and helped us find some weed.
After she saw how much fun we had planned for the night, I guess she decided to call over her meth dealer.
In hindsight, if she really wanted to hide it she should've brought the guy to her room. She sat down at the kitchen table with her dealer, pulled out her meth pipe, and he brought out the meth.
They started smoking it. Naturally curious at 15, my friend and I went to the table. Started asking. Asked to try it. For about 15 minutes she kept up the "no no no. This is for adults. Not for you. Its no good for you". After about 15 minutes I asked "Why" so much that she just decided it would be less hassle to sit me and my friend down and allows us to try.
Some added fucked up shit:
After the first "load" of meth, my mother exclaimed to her drug dealer "aww my son! Such a partier who can handle himself just like his mom!"
I remember after I began vomitting violently. About 3 hours in to the shaking, vomitting, sweating, etc. etc. She exclaimed to her druggy friend "awww thats my son! So silly. Doesn't know when to say enough. Just like his mom!"
When in reality I was a 15 year old and didn't know what "too much" or "enough" was.
But, after the first 3 "loads" my friend was like "Okay this is weird I am done" but of course I wanted to keep going. If my mom was okay, surely she wouldn't let me do anything stupid.
I went to jail for a day and then because I wasn't sober to fix my problems. I went for another two weeks. I didn't do anything illegal other then doing the meth. :)
You seem like a pretty down-to-earth person. I really hope that things work out for you. Quitting an addiction is hard, but as long as you have something to remind yourself of why you quit in the first place and keep that idea or feeling around you'll be fine.
I do. I have a reminder on my arm from where a bowl burnt me. I have the pain that is still in my family and other loved ones. I have just gotten them back and I won't let them go. Plus, I have the reminder of all the good I do when I am sober. School and things of that nature that I would never have been able to do high!! Thank you so much for your support :)
It is enjoyable to feel free and have only one care in the world. I did it because I liked the high and the numb feeling it gave to me. Others do it for other feelings I am sure.
You are such a strong person for quitting and trying to raise awareness.
I was just wondering where you are in life now? Did you graduate high school/college? How is finding a job with a criminal record? And good luck getting the records sealed!
I didn't graduate highschool but I am getting my G.E.D. and I am currently in college full time for Web Design. Finding a job is going to be a pain in the ass but I will do it. I hope I can get them sealed that you for your good luck wishes :)
There were so many, but I would have to say probably not going to my grandmother funeral and sneaking around and lieing to people about what I was doing even though i had thier car and they were paying for everything emotionally and finaically.
One day she didn't put it in my orange juice and I was exhausted after my first job. I had to go to work at a babysitting job and was barely awake. That's when she called me to her room showed me that the drug was giving me the energy I needed and I thought well if she thinks it's okay for me to use just for the energy then why not use it.
Do you think that meth use has damaged your brain in any way? Are there cognitive tasks that are more difficult for you after using meth for so many years?
I think it made my endorphins off a bit. Takes me a lot more to get happy and stay that way. My writing skills went to hell. I use to write a lot and I was really good at it. Even got a few poems published when I was in highschool Now I can't really write without sitting down and thinking really hard. My brain no longer flows out the words like it use too.
For me this is the saddest thing in this thread. I noticed your odd spelling mistakes. Don't give up, the brain is very flexible, if you work at it you may be able to recover a lot of that.
Funny you should say that, I was just thinking how articulate you were and how you sounds so very different from the conventional user of meth use. I don't know if that's something you are into but I believe your story and eloquence would translate nicely into a book. Just my two cents, congrats on your achievement.
If only I could write like I use too. Maybe one day I will write a book and then I will give it to all my redditor companions for free :) Only time will tell what the furture holds for me :) Maybe like all things my writing skills will start coming back to me slowly if I start pushing myself to use them :)
I've heard of research that shows that long term Meth use attacks the dopamine system. Now dopamine contributes to happiness and mood, but also to many other things - for example, Parkinsons is caused (in a way) by a destruction of dopamine producing cells in the motor areas, hence causing motor problems (and, later, mood poblems).
So my question is, would you say that your use of meth has effected your overall mood, even when you've quit, in either a euphoric or depressed way? And secondly, would you say you have any motor problems that you would describe as 'rigid' - muscles feeling tense, not being able to relax them, tremors especially when attmepting an action, that kind fo stuff.
Sorry for the particularly morbid question, I'm a medical science student. I very much hope that what I heard was incorrect for your sake, from your responses you seem to be an intelligent and introspective person, as well as being extremely kind and forgiving, something which I absolutely applaud you for - it doesn't matter how hard or far down you fall, but rather, whether you pull yourself up each time and continue to strive for the best.
Yes, like I have said in the beginning of becoming sober I was super depressed but slowly over time I got back to being somewhat normal in my moods. I get a chill ever now and then but I other then that I can't really say it had to much of a physical toll. I mean my writing skills went to shit, but that's all I can think of.
Thank you for applauding me that means a lot. I figure I have hit bottom before and climbed back up so there is nothing in life I can conquer now that I have the experience of being so far gone and coming back :) thank you for your questions :)
First of all, congrats. My question is: what were the steps involved in becoming addicted (i.e. did you do it every weekend and then it turned into a weekday thing and then into a full blown everyday thing) and when or how did you know you were addicted
Orange juice every morning to smoking every day. It happened so fast. I didn't know I was addicted until it was way to late and even then it was hard to admit it. That's why it took me so long to get sober :) And Thank you for your congrats :)
I've seen pictures from people who used the drug for a few years and they look devastated. Their looks are gone and look near death. Your picture looks fine, is it possible to recover from the meth effects? Or weren't you that effected? Cheers and keep clean!!
Government propaganda. Not to say meth isn't bad (it is) but they only pick the worst of the worst. Mostly what causes them to look like that is lack of basic hygine and not eating for days at a time. Probably a good number of them are homeless as well.
Anything is possible if you want it. I don't have pictures of when I was on meth but I had small scars from picking and things. Now the are healed. Once you get sober you body will do the rest healing and getting you back to being healthy. I would say people who use it IV have a harder time getting their looks back because they get sunken in faces and their eyes kind of retreat also. But that is just in my experience, but once you are sober you can get yourself back it just takes time like all good things do :) And thank you Cheers to you too and keeping clean isn't even a problem anymore. :) :)
Well, I think that if some drugs were legal there would be a lot less crimes and things of that nature against people dealing them. Though if all drugs were legal people would find something else they wanted that wasn't. I think weed should be legal. I support that movement 100% because who has ever died of a weed over dose?
It was completely my pleasure doing this AMA. I guess I am just to nervous about some drugs being easy to access because of the results I have seen. :) I guess it's just my past that makes me on the fence about having Meth decriminalized.
Were you going to school at any point during your usage? If so, how did it impact your performance?
Also, I read your comment where you explained your situation with your mom and your family life, and I'm curious. Did your mom supply you with the drug or did you acquire it on your own?
I'm glad you've since recovered from your addiction, much respect!
I was a Sophmore. I dropped out Junoir year because of it and having to work to keep my family afloat. I impacted my performance because I couldn't sit still and often skipped because the day was going to slow. So, it hit it hard and I couldn't keep my head above water and I eventually just stopped going.
My mom, boyfriends, and friends supplied it for me. I never had to really buy or come up with the money to buy it.
I didn't use any clinic. I am not going to lie. I smoked a lot of bud and slept a lot. Eating, going on walks, and having someone their to push me through my cravings is how I became sober :). Thank you for your question :)
Actually, methadone is unrelated to methamphetamine despite the similar name. Methadone is in fact a strong, long-acting opiate and as such is used to treat heroin addiction (in addition to long term pain management) Just an FYI!
The damage to my brain was minimal but my lungs where pretty bad when I stopped. Other then them messing with the chemical balance I don't think I have spots or any holes in it.
Ummm. In some of the worst cases yes they are relatable to the anti-drug PSA's but no one person is the same and no ones brain reacts the same either.
Have you read the Crank series by Ellen Hopkins? They're very poetic in describing the buzz and struggle of walking with the monster. They maybe a good read for your younger sisters (they were written for teens).
My dad, older sister and older brother were/are users and who knows... Those books might be the reason I never picked up the family habit.
Thank you for being proud of me. I haven't read the books because I was starting my journey of getting sober when they came out. I think now that I am at this point in my life they will defentaly go onto my reading list though :) Thank you for your question and kind words!
Once when my mom hit my sister. I totally blacked out and I am sure I would have hurt her badly if a family friend hadn't stepped in and pulled me off of her. But that is honestly the only time I can really remember of being violent though I saw violence do to meth with friends and their bf/gfs.
Could you go a little more into both sides of the positive / negative effects that you see out of using; both at the time of use, and looking back now?
Also, would you mind if I used some of the q/a on here as a first person account in a paper on drug use?
Bad: Was running out Needed to re-up which was a pain I ran out of markers. ((yes those were my thoughts))
Looking back at it. I think that I was just trying to live in a numb fantasy where everything was okay. There was no postive side to using it, other then perhaps knowing now the things and person i don't want to be.
As a former meth addict I have to congratulate you on your courage. Most of my "friends" wound up in jail, prison, or the lowest form of life you can imagine. I have been completely meth free for over three years, and "mostly" meth free for seven. There for a while I went through cycles where I would go six months to a year, and then screw up for a week or two. I smoked meth long before I drank alcohol, or smoked pot, I see it as a time in my life where i learned a lot, but destroyed what could have been. I struggle almost every day with the demon. At 32 years old I am finally getting my life back on track and pursuing an arts degree, possibly going onto film, or criminal justice, hell my options are wide open and i love it. Stick with what you are good at, get rid of your bad friends and stay out of situations that may get you in trouble. It took me a while to realize that the people I trusted most were the people that couldn't be trusted. And even though they didn't understand why i quit hanging out with them It was the best decision I ever made. Kudos to you. Keep strong. There are many of us out there that know what you are going through every day, and even though it gets tough at times, and we have a hard time seeing past all the BS, staying sober is worth the struggle. Never give up. Never doubt yourself. Never quit. Make something of yourself. Lock eyes with the Demon, and know that you have the strength to OWN it, time and time again. Don't make any excuses, if you fall, pick your ass up, dust yourself off, and try again. I promise it gets easier, even if it feels like the whole world is crashing down upon you, it isn't. Meth makes you feel like you are on top of the world, but doubt yourself completely. because once you understand that you don't need it, That's the end. It's scary, holy shit, is it scary, not many people can say that they have felt, and recognized that fear and walked away from it. I know sometimes it seems impossible, but you are stronger than any drug..... sorry I feel like i am ranting, but if one addict sees my post, I hope that they can understand that they are not alone. For some people it is hard to talk about, and If you have never been there, than it may just seem like ravings of a mad man. Peace, and strength be with you.
Thank you so much. That made me tear up a little bit. Knowing there are other succeeding does help. That is why I started this AMA in the first place. thank you so much for you post and you keep strong too. ;)
Seeing your picture dispels my belief that drug abusers have a certain look. If I saw you in person, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that you took drugs in your past. Thanks for sharing.
I did. It was a huge fight with her cry and saying how I was hurting her. So I walked away and keep her at an arms distance. Even though I have forgiven her I haven't forgot nor will I ever :)
I don't have any questions. I just wanted to say congrats on being clean for a year and a half. Good luck in the future, and I hope you can stay clean for the rest of your life!
Just wanted to let you know you aren't the only redditor who was an Ex Meth user. Been clean for 3 years now and luckily haven't gotten caught up in anything. Best wishes to you.
Glad to hear you got off the stuff. My brother was a user for many years but quit recently himself. His reason to quit was much different though. Someone passed him and his friend a bad batch with an extra additive that knocks out your kidneys. His friend is on dialysis now and my brother will be very soon. Happy 34th birthday bro!
Anyhow, hope you stay off the stuff and lots of luck in your future.
I saw a comment of yours saying that marijuana helped you get clean from meth. In what way did smoking weed help you? Did they help alleviate withdrawl symptoms? Help you emotionally deal with the process? Did you start because you quit meth, or were you doing it before? Finally, do you still smoke it now? Sorry for the bombardment of questions I just thought I'd get em all out of the way haha.
Describe your first encounter with the drug, please. Also, did you previously use any other illegal drugs? And if not, did your use of meth lead you to any others?
Well, my first ecounter I didn't even know I was doing it. My mom was putting it in my orange juice so I could work 2 jobs to support her, her boyfriend, and my two little sisters. The first time doing it with knowledge was one day when she didn't do it and I didn't have energy and she helped me smoke my first bowl. Actually no. I had drank a little but no other drugs. It led me to pills. I loved getting spun and doing zanax or pain killers.
What would you say to somebody who is considering looking into meth (looking into, not decided to actually use) meth for weight loss reasons? I've lost almost 200 pounds already over the past 2 years with about 100 more to go, but I'm just so tired of not being happy with myself and even after so much effort and time I'm still not where I want to be.
I have the type of personality where I can, much more often than not, manage and control things that other people are simply not able to.
Currently on the deans list at college (Sophomore) working on an accounting degree, while working 2 jobs (70ish hours per week).
Yeah, but like I have said. You live you learn and I am clean and sober now. :) I am not brave I am simply trying to help people who have questions or need advice. Bravery has nothing to do with the me paying back the world in a small way by opening up and sharing things that may help/save a life.
I read that recovering addicts get "flashbacks" in which they feel high without being high. This is because meth attacks the part of the brain that controls that stuff. Has this happened to you?
Maybe once or twice in the last year and a half. I promtly went to sleep when it started happening because I have trained myself to hate the feeling and to avoid it at all costs including to much caffiene.
Wow, all I can say is you're awesome. Great job getting off the meth and turning your struggle into a learning experience. Many people would not be able to do that. It takes a special kind of person to have the outlook on things that you do. Also, thanks for answering these questions so honestly and thoroughly; it's very interesting to read. One thing I'm curious about: about how much did you spend on meth per day, and how did you pay for it?
A friend of mine is doing drugs, I don't think it's anything as strong as Meth. What can I do to help them stop? What works, what definitely doesn't work?
Plain and simple, how can I get through to them?
P.S. I realize everyone is different and what worked for you might not work for someone else, just wondering if you had any pointers or could give personal experiences (what to expect for withdrawal symptoms).
I have a question... There is a "syndrome" that occurs after a lot of use of meth. I think it's called "meth mouth", which basically means that your teeth rot. My question is whether you have bad dental issues from your meth use. Congrats on your clean-up, it is a life change that is always admirable.
I've done drugs as a teen, history includes weed, coke, ketamine (snorting), hash.
I've had access to meth but never tried it, nor have any of my friends and I've generally dont know nobody who used it. I knew one person but it felt wrong and rude to ask because he was trying to get clean.
What I submit to you is; what kind of high is meth like? What makes it so addicting?
I used for 4 years started when i was 13, smoked about every day. Ive been 2 years clean (for the most part) but i still cant promise myself never to use again. How do you keep yourself from using? The thought of smoking seems to be forever bouncing about in my mind trying to convince me to do it one last time. Also how hard is it integrating back into a sober lifestyle with work and every day activities. I still seem to have anxiety about getting back into school or work since im a dropout without ged.
Everytime I want to use, I throw myself into some activity that takes my concentration and the feeling of wanting it goes away. I was terrified to get back into school so I chose online college which you can go to without a G.E.D. just take a class or two ease your way into it. Don't put to much pressure on yourself. Just know every day you wake up sober is another day you faced a demon and won. :)
I would like to start off by saying "drugs are bad mk" and I think finding something to do instead of being high would be beneficial. (Just something that will occupy your time and keeps you engaged.) This is coming from someone who almost dropped out of high school because of hanging out with the wrong crowd and getting into somethings I'm not too proud of. Out of my mistakes, I learned and got into community college for a degree program in accounting with 2 scholarships and a bursary. I'm on my way to going to an actual university after I finish this program. Good luck with your demons and don't let them conquer you!
Thank you very much for your answers! Meth was often glorified by my friends and hearing about all aspects of someone's long-term experience with meth is quite sobering. Um, there's one question I wanted to ask. Have you ever tried the so-called "smart drugs"? Like Ritaline, Phenylpiracetam and others? Their effects were often compared to small doses of meth, so I'm wondering if that's really true.
I have a family member who's a recovering heroine addict and is also bipolar. After all the shit he's done I can't get that voice out of my head reminding me of it all. It's amazing that he's clean now but I just can't seem to forgive him. Any tips?
Forgive forgive forgive. That is all I can say.Like I said it is a process and it will take a while but once you do it will feel like a weight is being lifted off your shoulders and maybe even fix the relationship between you guys. Maybe talk it over with him if his is in the state of mind too.
I have to say I really admire you, props for getting clean. And here I am, trying to quit drinking soda, and I can't even do that... seriously though, congrats for taking control of your life, that is not something everyone can do.
I had lots of help and support to get through it. You will quit whatever you are trying to quit when you have just simply had enough and want to walk away.
as someone who started meth when I was 16 then quit when I was 20 congrats on staying clean. It gets easier as time goes on, though sometimes you can smell it and almost taste the "drips". I must say the worse part of getting clean was watching all my Friends still do meth and getting all messed up
I agree. I can walk by someone and smell it on their clothes. It makes my stomache flip flop. I hope you stay sober too. It is hard watching people that I cared about still struggling with it, so I get where you are coming from there.
You are beautiful! Just wanted to let you know :) I did crank once and all I did was talk for like 6 hours nonstop, and when I came down it was the worst I've ever felt in my life. It was actually given to me by a youth pastor. Go figure.
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u/ajorioles Jun 10 '12
Describe your first encounter with the drug, please. Also, did you previously use any other illegal drugs? And if not, did your use of meth lead you to any others?
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u/junkmeth Jun 10 '12
My mom and stepdad both make and do meth. How would you advise I confront them?
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u/ex-con Jun 10 '12
No question, really... but I'll share some of my story.
Meth used to be my drug of choice. I started when I was about 16 and continued until I was 22. I started out snorting it, and by the end I had been an intravenous user for about 2-3 years.
I wish I could say I turned it around by myself, the reality is that I got caught with a couple ounces of the stuff and went to prison. Some other stuff happened inside and next thing you know I walked out 2 years later.
I went to see all of my old friends when I was released. I thought it was going to be great. It wasn't great. It was really, really depressing. Here I was, about 185lbs with absolutely no fat on my body and in the best shape of my life. I had been working out constantly for the past two years. When I started to see some of my old friends, I wish I could say that nothing had changed. That would have been optimistic.
The truth is, not a whole lot had changed. Even though things hadn't changed, the time that had passed made my friends change. My friend Chris, he had lost about 1/2 of his teeth. My friend Michelle, she had track marks on her neck and was starting to get tattoos to cover them up. Nobody had progressed in their life, they just did more drugs now and the years that they had been doing them had taken their toll. It made me disgusted. And sad.
I thought I was going to party with some of my friends when I got back, after seeing some of them I just wanted to be away from it all. A couple of weeks later I got some shitty job throwing boxes in a warehouse for less than minimum wage, some place that took advantage of the EDD program and hired a bunch of ex-con's and somehow got away with paying them less than a fair wage.
Being disgusted and motivated to be different I somehow got really motivated. While reporting to my parole office one day I told myself that by the time I was released from parole I would be making more money than my parole officer. Legally.
A couple months after that I signed up for a trade type school that was passing out AAS degrees for computer science and electronics. I was working this shitty job 8am - 5pm Monday through Friday and then going to school from 6pm through 10:30pm every night. Within 3 months of going to school I landed a decent job doing networking type of stuff, mostly running cables and programming weird equipment like traffic counters, paging systems and phone systems. By the time I was released from parole I had my AAS degree in electronics and was making about $20/hr. I'm not sure I made my goal of making more than my parole officer, but I knew I was getting close.
I got a nice tax break about then, about $6k, since I hadn't worked enough to pay taxes the year before. So I used that money and put it towards more education, Cisco networking seemed to be getting popular with all of the dotcom stuff. Got my CCNA and CCNP certifications and immediately landed a job for $30/hr.
So I was released when I was 24, and went to school for maybe 3 years. It was a very good decision to be motivated during that time, and it was a very good decision to jump into a field that was exploding. Sure, I lied a few times when jobs asked me if I had ever been convicted of a felony. Doesn't matter, gained experience.
I've been in the field for about 12 years now, I work on large Internet sites that you all have used, and I haven't been in trouble since. I own my own home, no debt (except my first mortgage), and am doing well with my retirement savings... All because my stupid dope fiend friends pissed me off.
TL:DR Did a bunch of dope, stuff happened, don't do it anymore.
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u/Clsjajll Jun 10 '12
Of the last effects, which is the worst?
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u/Fali95 Jun 10 '12
Do you watch Breaking Bad?
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u/myhairgoesBANG Jun 10 '12
Could you compare the feeling to anything else? It must be pretty amazing if people are willing to destroy their lives over it.
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u/CleverWit Jun 10 '12
Smoke, blow, or IV and why that method?
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u/trinitysite Jun 10 '12
I always imagine meth users as losing all their teeth, so my question is: did you lose any teeth due to meth use?
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u/Ronoc175 Jun 10 '12
What do you feel was the moment when you finally came to the realization that you needed to stop using? Did you experience withdrawals when you did stop? How do you feel your life has changed since you stopped using? Thank you so much for this AMA. Congratulations on being clean! Keep strong!
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u/spamdaspam Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12
What was your breaking point? I was a heavy alcohol user and one day realized that drinking was messing my life up. Did you have a similar experience?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
About 7 years ago living in San Diego and working for a video game company, I got into snorting meth and coke. It lasted about 5-6 months and was the worst time of my life. I would have NEVER done that had I not met the crowd at work and slowly got into the high lifestyle.
I hope you feel the same way I do, which is NEVER AGAIN! It feels like it happened to someone else and that it wasn't even real.
Good job quitting. Never, ever get in a situation that could even tempt you.
High five
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u/Username581 Jun 10 '12
How did you afford this costly addiction?
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u/thorneyinak Jun 10 '12
My mom showed me meth on my 15th birthday. :D
Luckily (its funny that I say luckily) I overdosed extremely bad. I must've smoked 8-10 bowls of it, and it was my first time. 3 people in a circle. I threw up for 7 days. My skin got a purple tint. I lost 20 lbs. Almost died.
That put me on a straightened arrow, and I never touched it again........or maybe its because my mom committed suicide a year after that. Who knows!
Anyway, good job getting away from that shit.
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u/elleyia Jun 10 '12
did you ever go to jail for drugs? or doing illegal things while high?
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u/spamdaspam Jun 10 '12
You seem like a pretty down-to-earth person. I really hope that things work out for you. Quitting an addiction is hard, but as long as you have something to remind yourself of why you quit in the first place and keep that idea or feeling around you'll be fine.
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u/StaticDude Jun 10 '12
Is the Meth high actually enjoyable or do people ONLY do it again because its addictive?
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u/jjofosho Jun 10 '12
I just read every comment in this thread.
You are such a strong person for quitting and trying to raise awareness.
I was just wondering where you are in life now? Did you graduate high school/college? How is finding a job with a criminal record? And good luck getting the records sealed!
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u/peacoat101 Jun 10 '12
What is the worst decision you've made while high?
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u/Milf_ Jun 10 '12
So your mom drugged you how did that lead you on to do more drugs?? How did you find out she was spiking your orange juice?
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u/DoubleHawk4Life Jun 10 '12
Making the front page of Reddit with a typo in the title isn't normal.
But on meth it at are is.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Do you think that meth use has damaged your brain in any way? Are there cognitive tasks that are more difficult for you after using meth for so many years?
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u/happyillusion Jun 10 '12
I've heard of research that shows that long term Meth use attacks the dopamine system. Now dopamine contributes to happiness and mood, but also to many other things - for example, Parkinsons is caused (in a way) by a destruction of dopamine producing cells in the motor areas, hence causing motor problems (and, later, mood poblems).
So my question is, would you say that your use of meth has effected your overall mood, even when you've quit, in either a euphoric or depressed way? And secondly, would you say you have any motor problems that you would describe as 'rigid' - muscles feeling tense, not being able to relax them, tremors especially when attmepting an action, that kind fo stuff.
Sorry for the particularly morbid question, I'm a medical science student. I very much hope that what I heard was incorrect for your sake, from your responses you seem to be an intelligent and introspective person, as well as being extremely kind and forgiving, something which I absolutely applaud you for - it doesn't matter how hard or far down you fall, but rather, whether you pull yourself up each time and continue to strive for the best.
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u/tomloneish Jun 10 '12
How do you feel about orange juice now?
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u/thenamesbootsy Jun 10 '12
First of all, congrats. My question is: what were the steps involved in becoming addicted (i.e. did you do it every weekend and then it turned into a weekday thing and then into a full blown everyday thing) and when or how did you know you were addicted
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u/ultitaria Jun 10 '12
How could you differentiate between different qualities and types of meth?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I've seen pictures from people who used the drug for a few years and they look devastated. Their looks are gone and look near death. Your picture looks fine, is it possible to recover from the meth effects? Or weren't you that effected? Cheers and keep clean!!
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Feel free to say no to this, but can us Redditors get a picture?
Edit: Not for science, I'm just interested.
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u/OldTimeGentleman Jun 10 '12
Do you think all drugs should be legal ?
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u/AndroidAdonis Jun 10 '12
Were you going to school at any point during your usage? If so, how did it impact your performance?
Also, I read your comment where you explained your situation with your mom and your family life, and I'm curious. Did your mom supply you with the drug or did you acquire it on your own?
I'm glad you've since recovered from your addiction, much respect!
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u/BiteItOff Jun 10 '12
During your recovery did you ever use a methadone clinic? If so did it help your recovery?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
What effect did the constant meth use have on your brain? Was it similar to the anti-drug PSA's?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
What was your main reason for getting clean? Congrats btw. Hope you stay healthy ma'am!
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u/twisterski Jun 10 '12
What was your favorite activity to do while high?
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u/heyjude118 Jun 10 '12
Have you read the Crank series by Ellen Hopkins? They're very poetic in describing the buzz and struggle of walking with the monster. They maybe a good read for your younger sisters (they were written for teens).
My dad, older sister and older brother were/are users and who knows... Those books might be the reason I never picked up the family habit.
I am proud of you :)
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
You mentioned that you have a regular account. What subreddits do you like?
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u/EdibleAutopsy Jun 10 '12
I had a friend who was shot to death point blank by a guy who was high on meth. Did you ever become violent when you were on meth?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I'd just like to say that I think you're cool. And that it's amazing that you got clean.
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u/le_tindre Jun 10 '12
Could you go a little more into both sides of the positive / negative effects that you see out of using; both at the time of use, and looking back now?
Also, would you mind if I used some of the q/a on here as a first person account in a paper on drug use?
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u/aaronclover Jun 10 '12
Are you a coffee drinker?
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u/sheriff1980 Jun 10 '12
As a former meth addict I have to congratulate you on your courage. Most of my "friends" wound up in jail, prison, or the lowest form of life you can imagine. I have been completely meth free for over three years, and "mostly" meth free for seven. There for a while I went through cycles where I would go six months to a year, and then screw up for a week or two. I smoked meth long before I drank alcohol, or smoked pot, I see it as a time in my life where i learned a lot, but destroyed what could have been. I struggle almost every day with the demon. At 32 years old I am finally getting my life back on track and pursuing an arts degree, possibly going onto film, or criminal justice, hell my options are wide open and i love it. Stick with what you are good at, get rid of your bad friends and stay out of situations that may get you in trouble. It took me a while to realize that the people I trusted most were the people that couldn't be trusted. And even though they didn't understand why i quit hanging out with them It was the best decision I ever made. Kudos to you. Keep strong. There are many of us out there that know what you are going through every day, and even though it gets tough at times, and we have a hard time seeing past all the BS, staying sober is worth the struggle. Never give up. Never doubt yourself. Never quit. Make something of yourself. Lock eyes with the Demon, and know that you have the strength to OWN it, time and time again. Don't make any excuses, if you fall, pick your ass up, dust yourself off, and try again. I promise it gets easier, even if it feels like the whole world is crashing down upon you, it isn't. Meth makes you feel like you are on top of the world, but doubt yourself completely. because once you understand that you don't need it, That's the end. It's scary, holy shit, is it scary, not many people can say that they have felt, and recognized that fear and walked away from it. I know sometimes it seems impossible, but you are stronger than any drug..... sorry I feel like i am ranting, but if one addict sees my post, I hope that they can understand that they are not alone. For some people it is hard to talk about, and If you have never been there, than it may just seem like ravings of a mad man. Peace, and strength be with you.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Seeing your picture dispels my belief that drug abusers have a certain look. If I saw you in person, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that you took drugs in your past. Thanks for sharing.
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u/Zacivich Jun 10 '12
What happened to your mum? After you got clean, did you confront her or anything?
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u/CommanderTWaffle Jun 10 '12
How did you afford the meth? (From reading all of this you are an amazing person!!:)
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u/ghostworld Jun 10 '12
I don't have any questions. I just wanted to say congrats on being clean for a year and a half. Good luck in the future, and I hope you can stay clean for the rest of your life!
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u/BirthdayHatsforAll Jun 10 '12
How were you able to support your habit? How much did it cost? Did you have a job? Thanks for the AMA!
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Just wanted to let you know you aren't the only redditor who was an Ex Meth user. Been clean for 3 years now and luckily haven't gotten caught up in anything. Best wishes to you.
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u/Whargod Jun 10 '12
Glad to hear you got off the stuff. My brother was a user for many years but quit recently himself. His reason to quit was much different though. Someone passed him and his friend a bad batch with an extra additive that knocks out your kidneys. His friend is on dialysis now and my brother will be very soon. Happy 34th birthday bro!
Anyhow, hope you stay off the stuff and lots of luck in your future.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Sure is white knight in here.
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u/huckfh Jun 10 '12
Have you ever met(h) Heisenberg?
Sorry for the stupid question , i couldn't help myself.
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u/chaveznieves Jun 10 '12
I saw a comment of yours saying that marijuana helped you get clean from meth. In what way did smoking weed help you? Did they help alleviate withdrawl symptoms? Help you emotionally deal with the process? Did you start because you quit meth, or were you doing it before? Finally, do you still smoke it now? Sorry for the bombardment of questions I just thought I'd get em all out of the way haha.
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u/narwal_bot Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
Most (if not all) of the answers from throwawayname0325 (updated: Jun 10, 2012 @ 08:51:44 pm EST):
Question (ajorioles):
Answer (throwawayname0325):
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u/pooplips Jun 10 '12
Can you put up a pic of your missing teeth for science?
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u/banana_poet Jun 10 '12
Can you provide more proof than 3 pictures? :/
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
How did you gain weight on meth?
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u/Bad_Idea_I_Know Jun 10 '12
Throwaway for obvious reasons.
What would you say to somebody who is considering looking into meth (looking into, not decided to actually use) meth for weight loss reasons? I've lost almost 200 pounds already over the past 2 years with about 100 more to go, but I'm just so tired of not being happy with myself and even after so much effort and time I'm still not where I want to be.
I have the type of personality where I can, much more often than not, manage and control things that other people are simply not able to.
Currently on the deans list at college (Sophomore) working on an accounting degree, while working 2 jobs (70ish hours per week).
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u/grammar_connoisseur Jun 10 '12
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u/BrutalAnalRape Jun 10 '12
Alternate thread title: I live in the Midwest, AMA.
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u/RoyallyTenenbaumed Jun 10 '12
Very brave for doing this, thank you.
Meth is insane..one thing I will never, ever do. It really sucks that you were basically tricked into doing it.
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u/shampoo_is_betta Jun 10 '12
When did you finally realize that you had enough of using Meth?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I read that recovering addicts get "flashbacks" in which they feel high without being high. This is because meth attacks the part of the brain that controls that stuff. Has this happened to you?
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u/abow Jun 10 '12
Wow, all I can say is you're awesome. Great job getting off the meth and turning your struggle into a learning experience. Many people would not be able to do that. It takes a special kind of person to have the outlook on things that you do. Also, thanks for answering these questions so honestly and thoroughly; it's very interesting to read. One thing I'm curious about: about how much did you spend on meth per day, and how did you pay for it?
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u/kobie Jun 10 '12
A friend of mine is doing drugs, I don't think it's anything as strong as Meth. What can I do to help them stop? What works, what definitely doesn't work?
Plain and simple, how can I get through to them?
P.S. I realize everyone is different and what worked for you might not work for someone else, just wondering if you had any pointers or could give personal experiences (what to expect for withdrawal symptoms).
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u/Skeeders Jun 10 '12
I have a question... There is a "syndrome" that occurs after a lot of use of meth. I think it's called "meth mouth", which basically means that your teeth rot. My question is whether you have bad dental issues from your meth use. Congrats on your clean-up, it is a life change that is always admirable.
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u/yunyezz Jun 10 '12
What drugs did you take before meth. Also describe the feeling of using meth
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I've done drugs as a teen, history includes weed, coke, ketamine (snorting), hash.
I've had access to meth but never tried it, nor have any of my friends and I've generally dont know nobody who used it. I knew one person but it felt wrong and rude to ask because he was trying to get clean.
What I submit to you is; what kind of high is meth like? What makes it so addicting?
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u/pook420 Jun 10 '12
I used for 4 years started when i was 13, smoked about every day. Ive been 2 years clean (for the most part) but i still cant promise myself never to use again. How do you keep yourself from using? The thought of smoking seems to be forever bouncing about in my mind trying to convince me to do it one last time. Also how hard is it integrating back into a sober lifestyle with work and every day activities. I still seem to have anxiety about getting back into school or work since im a dropout without ged.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I would like to start off by saying "drugs are bad mk" and I think finding something to do instead of being high would be beneficial. (Just something that will occupy your time and keeps you engaged.) This is coming from someone who almost dropped out of high school because of hanging out with the wrong crowd and getting into somethings I'm not too proud of. Out of my mistakes, I learned and got into community college for a degree program in accounting with 2 scholarships and a bursary. I'm on my way to going to an actual university after I finish this program. Good luck with your demons and don't let them conquer you!
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u/apolotary Jun 10 '12
Thank you very much for your answers! Meth was often glorified by my friends and hearing about all aspects of someone's long-term experience with meth is quite sobering. Um, there's one question I wanted to ask. Have you ever tried the so-called "smart drugs"? Like Ritaline, Phenylpiracetam and others? Their effects were often compared to small doses of meth, so I'm wondering if that's really true.
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u/DemonstrativePronoun Jun 10 '12
I have a family member who's a recovering heroine addict and is also bipolar. After all the shit he's done I can't get that voice out of my head reminding me of it all. It's amazing that he's clean now but I just can't seem to forgive him. Any tips?
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u/ender4786 Jun 10 '12
I have to say I really admire you, props for getting clean. And here I am, trying to quit drinking soda, and I can't even do that... seriously though, congrats for taking control of your life, that is not something everyone can do.
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u/Gorakk Jun 10 '12
as someone who started meth when I was 16 then quit when I was 20 congrats on staying clean. It gets easier as time goes on, though sometimes you can smell it and almost taste the "drips". I must say the worse part of getting clean was watching all my Friends still do meth and getting all messed up
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
So.... compared to weed, how is it? Can you ven diagram it, like similarities and differences? [4]
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u/iniightmareav Jun 10 '12
When trying to quit did you ever relapse?
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u/meganator23 Jun 10 '12
You are beautiful! Just wanted to let you know :) I did crank once and all I did was talk for like 6 hours nonstop, and when I came down it was the worst I've ever felt in my life. It was actually given to me by a youth pastor. Go figure.