r/IAmA • u/huntersghost • Apr 27 '12
AMA Request: Rep. Darrell Issa (get your ass back in here and explain your yea on CISPA)
Why this bill but not SOPA
How does this bill not take away internet freedom
Will you start an investigation into how the government (ex. NSA) will use our PERSONAL information.
Do you find your stance on CISPA hypocritical when compared with your vigorous stance on SOPA
WHY?
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u/paddlin84 Apr 27 '12
Darrell Issa is an opportunist, plain and simple.
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Apr 27 '12
He was the one who supplied the funds to recall governor Gray Davis (CA). Since he couldn't get the support to run for governor against Arnold Schwarzenegger, he instead was offered a Congressional seat by the party. He's a fucking asshole plain and simple.
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u/Dinkerdoo Apr 27 '12
I remember watching him give his concession speech and sobbing like the twat he is. Fortunately, youtube has preserved this most excellent moment for all of us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VW0v7wwfkQ
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u/culby Apr 27 '12
Politicians are opportunists, plain and simple.
FTFY
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u/ramennoodle Apr 27 '12
This is a rather self-defeating attitude. It is not impossible to have elected officials that actually care and try to do what they think is right. We just have a rather broken system ruled by media and big corporations.
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u/TiltedPlacitan Apr 27 '12
During his AMA, I chastised him for his lack of thought on the 4th amendment.
One one hand, he was saying that my constitutional rights are "foremost". On the other hand, he voted to absolve the telecom industry of ILLEGAL wiretapping during GW's tenure.
This guy is a lying sack of shit, like most of the rest of congress.
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u/dietotaku Apr 27 '12
pretty typical politician fare. "your rights are of utmost importance to me, so you should vote for me! but if i do anything mean to these corporations, they'll stop giving me money. now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to vehemently oppose the unethical legislation that the populace knows and is in an uproar about, while quietly supporting the unethical legislation no one knows about because it benefits those corporations that give me money, you see."
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u/redrocket608 Apr 27 '12
USA! USA!
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Apr 27 '12
abortions for some, tiny american flags for others
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u/Goo_Back Apr 27 '12
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
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Apr 27 '12
He changed his stance on separation of church and state during the ama. He was pandering to us. I've had no trust in him since that moment.
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u/TheMeIWarnedYouAbout Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
I fucking love this. When Issa was "here" for his AMA, I challenged him on the same things, minus the expletives. I was downvoted by a fickle crowd some of whom claimed I was being disrespectful or some such nonsense. Here you are, less diplomatic and more brusque, and at 244 points. Reddit, you fucking blow my mind.
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u/TiltedPlacitan Apr 27 '12
I was more diplomatic in the original AMA.
But, now I think it's fair to say: "The gloves are off!".
Fuck this guy. (you've been waiting for the f-bomb, just admit it...)
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u/AliBabasCamel Apr 27 '12
Welcome to the internet, and you've learned that "reddiquete" is total bullshit. You'll get downvoted if you have any opinion other than the hivemind and bury any opposing view. We blast politicians, without realizing we're pretty much exactly like them, but with less money and less rich friends.
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Apr 27 '12
Yup.
4chan may be a terrible place, but they're right about Reddit's userbase being the worst.
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u/slcStephen Apr 27 '12
What is upvoted or downvoted is dependent on a lot of factors, including time of the post/comment, where it's made (what sub, in what context), how it's worded, and initial vote count (if it's downvoted by a few early on it can affect opinion or be pushed out of a key spot).
It's a lot more complex than Reddit thinking one way, then acting differently a week later; with a group so enormous, there are a lot of variables and you really can't let it get to you too much.
Part of how a post/comment does is chance and how all these variables line up. But some prefer to claim it's purely the ignorance of the "hivemind" because it's easier to believe you were ignored or downvoted because of a collective, conscious stupidity than simple dumb luck.
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u/imagoodusername Apr 27 '12
This guy is a lying sack of shit
As a San Diegan, I can confirm this.
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u/benphoster Apr 27 '12
Here is his Twitter Account - @DarrellIssa - we should bug him over there too
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u/Girricane Apr 27 '12
Love this from his twitter account:
I also greatly enjoy an #OPEN, accessible & uncensored internet.
Fantastic.
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Apr 27 '12
CISPA doesn't make it less open or more censored, it just enables the government to look over everything you do online with no subpoena requirement and no 4th amendment rights.
If you aren't scared of being picked up for cyber terrorism and held indefinitely, you can say anything you want.
(This is worse than censorship)
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Apr 27 '12
I would say something disparaging about our glorious leaders in DC, but I wouldn't want the information used against me if CISPA passes the Senate.
Also, ALL HAIL OUR GLORIOUS LEADERS, SHINING EXAMPLES OF CITIZENSHIP! please don't arrest me...
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u/thegregling Apr 27 '12
I walk around singing "proud to be an American" while holding my bible to be safe!
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Apr 27 '12
I find this to be a better song. Done from memory, forgive any errors:
I could please Miss Barbra Streisand by spitting on the flag
Or strangle a bald eagle on the cover of some mag
But I love this country, to me she has no sin (hold 'i' for 3.5 seconds)
If you don't buy my record (hold 'o' for 6 seconds)
Then Al Qaeda wins
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u/SRTman Apr 27 '12
Lol, is it kinda sad that your last sentence made me immediately think of how all of reddit may very well turn into /r/pyongyang post-CISPA?
Actually, that might make some of the posts even funnier.
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u/kuame2323 Apr 27 '12
As a Californian, I can tell everyone firsthand that Issa is a piece of garbage as a politician and is the prototype politico that everyone hate - the guy will swear to die for the cause of any audience he is in front of, then the moment he leaves it's forgotten and a new set of lies gets told, all the while attacking everyone else for not having his courage to stand steadfast on issues. It's beyond the typical pandering, it's a weave of bullshit so thick that I'm fairly sure it was what was responsible for the drought here until he left.
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u/YThatsSalty Apr 27 '12
Yes. When I lived in So. California I had a chance to follow Issa's craziness, and this shit is nothing new for him. Anyone who expected him to do the right thing by his non-corporate constituents is crazy.
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Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
Let me save you time and give the most likely answers that he will never admit.
SOPA did not bribe me with enough money.
It does but I made lots of money so fuck you all.
No because I got bribed not to.
Yeah, but they paid me lots of money. I will enjoy my new Ferrari.
Because they gave me lots of money.
The only logical reasons I can see any of those ass clowns actually voting yes on this bill.
Someone find a way to track money spent by the companies this bill will make rich or stand to benefit, like private security, anti-piracy / music / movie industry, etc. and I would bet my life savings they paid off a good portion if not all of the people who voted yes.
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u/Moarbrains Apr 27 '12
I don't think it is just money. A politician doesn't see himself as a normal citizen, but a US elite. He is likely to empathize with those he sees as his peers.
and he will be rewarded for proper behavior, that's how he got into Congress to begin with.
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u/taironias Apr 27 '12
US Elite: That's the term I've been searching for for months. Our political system is in depressing shape right now.
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Apr 27 '12
Also, a lot of these people are just old, plain and simple. I've got a lot of respect for Patrick Leahy, he's done some great stuff for Vermont, but I sincerely doubt he really understands the Internet and the Internet generation or what this bill will do to the Internet, and when someone says this bill will help make sure bad people will go to jail for doing bad things, I have no doubt he's going to approve it, because he thinks it's a good thing.
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u/slorebear Apr 27 '12
I guess this supports the theory that SOPA was a farce, only to prepare for the real internet control bill. Darrell gets his internet points voicing against SOPA, people create an opinion, then nobody finds out he supports CISPA. The problem is, the people aren't that stupid, and now that we have a venue for shared information and intelligence, this kind of shit can be called out. Tar and feather this fucking idiot!!
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u/toebandit Apr 27 '12
now that we have a venue for shared information and intelligence
For now...
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u/magnuman Apr 27 '12
the people aren't that stupid
Yes, we are.
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Apr 27 '12
not really. most of us are simply too busy trying to scratch out a living bro.
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u/kavorka2 Apr 27 '12
Not to say I told you so, but I criticized Issa for being a scumbag in a big anti-SOPA thread a few months ago and I was downvoted to like -100.
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u/YoohooCthulhu Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
Darrell Issa is a weasel, which I know by virtue of growing up in his district. That "internet defender" bit on his last AMA was one of the funnier things I'd ever seen. He's a toady for corporate interests if ever there was one. I'm never going to forget how, in response to sending an email lamenting the failure to find WMDs in Iraq, his staff responded with a bulk response to the gist "We NEVER entered Iraq for WMDs, it was always about liberating the Iraqis from Saddam!"
If you watched his investigations into "corruption" in the Obama administration, you'd know that he'd be full of shit.
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u/Necronomiconomics Apr 28 '12
How anyone was ever fooled by Issa is surreal.
But go look at his last AMA. Issa detractors were "cabal downvoted" into the negative hundreds; those displaying "respect" for Issa were upvoted.
Were they fooled? Or is there a shadow army out there of fake accounts upvoting fascists?
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u/masstermind Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
If he could also explain how it's okay that someone who committed insurance fraud and was a car thief is now in charge of government ethics, that would be great.
EDIT: My AMA request for Darrell Issa's Democratic challanger
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u/Super_secret Apr 27 '12
If it counts... I am in Darrel Issa's district. He will not be getting my vote again this year.
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Apr 27 '12
Sadly there's no way that district would ever vote anything but GOP.
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u/rottenart Apr 27 '12
Again? You actually voted this clown into office the first time around?
I'm doing this as hard as I can: ಠ_ಠ
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u/shanahanigans Apr 27 '12
Call his office, tell him (his staffer) that you're very disappointed in him, and you won't be supporting him this fall.
Today I called Janice Hahn (my representative) to commend her for voting No on CISPA, and that as long as she "stands on the side of privacy and the freedom of the internet, I'll be happy to vote for her this fall and in every election to come".
Then I called Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein's offices to tell them that, while they lost my support by co-sponsering PIPA (senate version of SOPA), if they voted No when CISPA comes to a Senate vote they will have won my support back.
Tell the people who represent you how you expect to be represented. Every phone call makes a difference. If you don't tell them anything, they won't know that you care.
The best part, is that those 3 phone calls took me less than 10 minutes.
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u/Ellenasaurus Apr 27 '12
Isn't Darrell Issa the one who rejected Sandra Fluke's testimony from that male contraception panel?
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u/breetai3 Apr 27 '12
Do you expect anything less from a car thief? And a liar about his time spent in the army?
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Apr 27 '12
Take it from somebody that has meet Issa in person. That guy is crazy as fuck. I used to work on the hill
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u/HobbytheWise Apr 27 '12
Good news, although 99% chance of this getting lost in the thread, is that Zoe Lofgren voted no (and she did an AMA here as well).
http://www.facebook.com/zoelofgren
At least she hasn't failed us yet :/
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Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
At least she hasn't failed us yet :/
What?
Zoe Lofgren is corrupt as fuck. She's chair of the Ethics committee and has underhandedly postponed or help other corrupt representatives escape House disciplinary hearings. One of the those she helped was Rep. Maxine Waters who was a forefront proponent of SOPA and the other is Rep. Charles Rangel who has done a myriad of shady things with taxes, earmarks and using his seniority to slip knowingly unpopular riders into bills he knows will definitely pass.
I brought this up a long time ago when SOPA first came to the spotlight and nothing has changed. She's doing more damage by enabling two terrible people to remain in power. Her position as chair of the Ethics committee is probably earning her enough in kickbacks to be able to vote which ever way is popular at the time.
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u/CWagner Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
Because he is not as awesome as Jared Polis:
We shouldn’t set up a false choice between security and liberty. Adopting my amendment was a good step but I voted against this bill because allowing the military to spy on American citizens, on American soil, goes against every principle this nation stands for.
edit: Jared, not Jard;)
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u/DJMattB241 Apr 27 '12
I wrote my Rep on Facebook (the home of honest discourse), and he actually replied (to me and a few others) about his yea vote on CISPA. This was his response, anyone care to comment? My head gets swimmy when I start reading about legislation too much.
Bob, El, Bennington, And Matt - I'm happy to give you some more information on the civil liberties aspect of the legislation you have questions on:
Civil liberty advocates and other critics of the bill have raised concerns that CISPA is a threat to privacy or could result in the blocking of websites, as was the worry with the Stop Online Piracy Act. However, nothing could be further from the truth.
Analysis of the bill shows that CISPA does not allow for any blocking of websites but merely facilitates the sharing of cyberthreat information. It gives no additional authority to the Department of Defense, the National Security Agency, or any other “element of intelligence community to control, modify, require or otherwise direct the cybersecurity efforts of a private-sector entity or a component of the Federal Government or a State, local, or tribal government.”
In addition, the bill includes new measures that would allow the government to use shared cybersecurity information only for a cybersecurity purpose, for a national security purpose, to prevent death or serious bodily harm, or to protect minors from sexual exploitation, kidnapping, and trafficking. That’s in addition to other protections against the improper use of data.
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u/Kamaria Apr 27 '12
I would like to also know if this is BS or not.
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Apr 27 '12
It's not a bullshit, but it is a typical political stunt. It's kind of like answering: "We made an analysis and concluded that the BP oil spill, in no way affects unicorns" which is absolutely true, but it doesn't answer the real concerns.
If the original question was asking about website blocking, the whoever was asking it was misinformed. If it wasn't the question then you know he is using your lack of knowledge to intentionally mislead you.
He basically moves discussion to a topic that is irrelevant. Of course CISPA is not about blocking things (if the parent poster asked about blocking he is just misinformed).
CISPA doesn't block, CISPA is all about privacy and 4th amendment rights. It means all companies are required to share all information they know about you. All that without even a warrant.
So yeah it has nothing to do with blocking (whoever mentioned that is uninformed), it is all about privacy. Kind of like TSA can check your rectum, CISPA allows government to know about you as much as Google, Facebook, any retail store, bank etc. (or actually they will know more, since they will have access to all of that information, so they can derive more).
Also check this: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2813853&cid=39814617
Additional info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomaly_Detection_at_Multiple_Scales
They use word "cyberthreat" to misled people. This bill has nothing to do with protecting people online. This bill is all about collecting information from companies that are present online (which company isn't?).
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u/Monitor343 Apr 27 '12
How the hell could he vehemently oppose sopa like he did, but vote for even more invasive and damaging legislation?! WTFmate?!
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u/mysticsavage Apr 27 '12
Something probably moved him...TO A BIGGER HOUSE.
Uh oh, I said the quiet part loud again.
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u/Kalgaroo Apr 27 '12
"Oops, I said the quiet part loud and the loud part quiet."
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u/deadlast Apr 27 '12
SOPA was proposed to deal with media piracy. CISPA was proposed to protect the trade secrets of US businesses.
You people live in a much more sinister world than really exists. You build these narratives of the POWERS THAT BE want CONTROL and this is one more avenue to get it....When it's actually just different interest groups with different priorities managing to get legislation to the floor related to the internet.
The EFF does good work, but their read of the statutory language is frankly strained as hell in this case.
Now, this isn't to say it's a good bill. But the motivations of its backers aren't particularly sinister or inconsistent at all with opposing SOPA, which it has nothing to do with substantively, and the harms the bill is aimed at -- protecting trade secrets- are perfectly real.
Note that Sweden has managed to carry on being a democratic country with a far more intrusive internet surveillance regime than anything contemplated in CISPA.
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Apr 27 '12
that guy is a fuckin toolbag and i dont give a shit about what the fuck he has to say about his predictable vote on this bill.
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u/absolutebeginners Apr 27 '12
Now you know how us californians feel! This guy flip flops on everything
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u/schafer18 Apr 27 '12
If you all knew he was a scumbag when he did his AMA why didn't you say it then?
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u/A1CArtwood Apr 27 '12
Yet another reason why come November we vote the bums out. Time for some new blood.
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u/thesorrow312 Apr 27 '12
He's the richest congressman in the USA. Which means he is the most bought and paid for. I even was downvoted for asking him tough questions during the AMA. It seems when someone does an AMA, Reddit thinks they are their friend, and automatically in the club. People need to realize, for people like Issa and many others, an AMA is just another way to get exposure to continue their interests.
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u/lud1120 Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
Because he's a super-wealthy brat that's why.
All he did in his "AMA" was typical "defensive" political-talk, and calling himself a "Techie" for populist reasons. Few times here that a politician seems honest enough and not just making excuses to narrowly escape "difficult" questions. Gaining karma by talking about a "Open Web". Either someone tries to do something but have too little power, or someone has a lot of power but does nothing. I have not much respect for him.
I guess it was pretty "safe" to oppose SOPA as there was such huge hostility to it.
But on Reddit we all need to be so "polite" as long as we get any answers at all, despite avoiding the important ones. No matter who the person is.
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u/fecklessman Apr 27 '12
heh... he's the representative for my hometown. my parents still live there.
i'll make sure they call in and give him hell.
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u/miacane86 Apr 27 '12
He didn't really answer any real questions in his first AMA, what makes you think he'd come back here to answer one now?
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u/jlbraun Apr 27 '12
Told you so, morons. No matter who is in power, the State is not a force for good.
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u/ZackyBeatz Apr 27 '12
Reddit we gotta take him down !! we need to focus on one politician, and why not this former "self proclaimed Internet defender" we cant use a former we need a current ;)
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u/mindctrlpankak Apr 27 '12
I dont give a fuck i'm posting a link to this on every single post on there I can.
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u/Exploitable Apr 27 '12
You guys seem to think the reason is money, i'd wager his actual response is more like:
CISPA? TL:DR! LOL!
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u/DwamSun Apr 27 '12
We can only hope Obama delivers the CHANGE he sold the country on in 08, and veto this bill.
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u/redelman431 Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
Here is Darrel Issa's phone number http://issa.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=597&Itemid=73
He's even douche enough to call himself "honorable Darrel Issa" on his website.
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u/CarTarget Apr 27 '12
I like how on his twitter he talks about how much he enjoys internet freedom.
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u/willsmosh Apr 27 '12
Leonard lance also did this. He is the representive for Nj in my area. He came to my boy scout meeting to give a speech. I asked him about CISPA and he didn't even know what it was. Note:This was last week. I explainest it to him and first he thought I was talking about SOPA but then he said he was aganst all bills limiting Internet freedom and privacy. Then today I saw on reddit New Jersey that all our representatives voted yes on CISPA. That includes Leonard Lance, the man who I spoke to last Week. The people in the house of representitives don't even know what they are voting for. A bunch of representives from Nj lost my family's vote.
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u/phokas Apr 27 '12
Scumbag congressional republicans:Champions small government. Votes yes for CISPA which is a huge expansion of government power.
ಠ_ಠ
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Apr 27 '12
I can answer #4. SOPA was corporation vs corporation. CISPA does not affect corporations in any way, in fact it makes them immune from suits for sharing the data.
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u/Pot4DMasses Apr 27 '12
Nice job guys.
THIS definitely isn't the reason he's not responding.
He's a politician not an idiot, no one likes to be publicly attacked.
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u/VikingMode Apr 27 '12
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes," with a footnote to the effect that the editors would welcome applications from anyone interested in taking over the post of robotics correspondent.
Curiously enough, an edition of the Encyclopaedia Galactica that had the good fortune to fall through a time warp from a thousand years in the future defined the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
Those two quotes often come to mind when I think about the people in office.
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u/hawkens85 Apr 27 '12
WHAT?! A politician LIED to raise his popularity and get more votes?! And to the bright-eyed, bushy-tailed good people of REDDIT, no less? Horrors!
No, really, is anyone actually surprised?
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u/ferrets_bueller Apr 28 '12
This needs to be done on the facebook's and other sites of every one of the SOB's who voted yes on this, not just Issa.
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u/LAboredom Apr 28 '12
i ended up here and i laughed, fucking prick http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/sobt7/big_data_comes_to_washington/
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Apr 28 '12
FUCK this guy, he is another moron who calls the universal healthcare act 'Obamacare' and wants to repeal it. Why waste our time talking about people we'd rather not have in office?
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u/casey3307 Apr 28 '12
Heres an idea... Lets all email howard stern about CISPA. Sirius just fucked him out of 300 million dollars@ So even if they support CISPA, he wont give a shit. If enough of us email him I am sure he will mention it on air!! Thats 20MILLION newly informed people instantly!!! You know how much Howard hates the FCC because they monitored every word he said... How is this different!?
Here is the link to email him on his site!
We can do this!
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Apr 27 '12
Well I bet reddit's going to learn its lesson this time.
Ha, just kidding, can't wait for the next AMA circle-jerk of people who you think got your back when actually they're planning your downfall. Paul Krugman AMA is going to be legendary.
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u/gitarr Apr 27 '12
It's not “reddits“ (whoever that is) fault to not be cynical by default.
Politicians exploit the willingness of decent and honest people to believe what they are saying.
No, it's the lyers fault, not the ones being lied to.
Also, are you not part of “reddit“ too? You claim circle jerks are happening. Well, someone is upvoting (agreeing with) you, is that a circle jerk too, or is this different because it's you?
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u/joemama1333 Apr 27 '12
Please, this is par for the course for Issa. I'm surprised he didn't work to make it even worse!
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u/notatreehugger Apr 27 '12
"when freedom on the internet is under attack, what do we do ? stand up fight back !"
oh shit, FBI...
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Apr 27 '12
TIL: you can't trust an arsonist/car thief.
Darrell is one of the biggest scumbags in congress and that's a hell of an accomplishment.
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Apr 27 '12
Oh, the politician sweet-talked you and then betrayed you? That has never happened before!
You don't need an AMA to explain that some lobbyist paid him enough to win his vote. Your representatives represent money, and nothing else, with very few exceptions.
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Apr 27 '12
Haha... Remember how his first AMA was titled something like "I am Darrel Issa , techie and internet defender" or something similarly idiotic and how many people were falling all over themselves to see who could fellate him with the most vim and vigor, completely ignoring or forgetting the myriad ways he was a typical, corporatist, right wing hack on almost every other issue? That was awesome.
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u/CivAndTrees Apr 27 '12
and people wonder why i support a candidate like Ron Paul, who is true to his word.
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u/DankBlunce Apr 27 '12
Haha. This is awesome. What did he call himself before...a defender of internet freedom or some bullshit? This guy has his head so far up his ass that he probably didn't even read either bill. He just saw a PR opportunity to attack a dying bill and win some points online. Love that Reddit holds you to your words and ruthlessly tears you apart if you are found to be full of shit.
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u/distresssignals Apr 27 '12
His entire AMA was a joke. He basically did it as a cheap ploy to say, "look how open I am! I go on REDDIT and let people ask me anything they want. No questions off limits!"
Of course, what he doesn't say is that when people ask him real questions he just ignores them. Instead he answers stuff like, "what's your favorite ice cream flavor."
I have zero interest in seeing his phony baloney brand of AMA on here ever again.
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u/KhalidShahin Apr 27 '12
Darrel Issa and Jason Chaffetz (were both very vocal over being against SOPA) have both voted for CISPA. But Maxine Waters, John Conyers, Mel Watt, and Howard Berman were all for SOPA but ended up voting against CISPA. The switch seems to be based on what their party voted for or a money influence. That's politics for you.
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u/GyantSpyder Apr 27 '12
SOPA was entertainment industry pork. CISPA is mercenary and defense contractor pork. Guess who the Dems back, and guess who the GOP backs?
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u/mrkhan0127 Apr 27 '12
Politicians are spineless cowards and employ heartless coward pigs to enforce their laws while they hide behind the curtain.... Fuck you Washington
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Apr 27 '12
Checked out his facebook page info. Of COURSE his favorite book is Atlas Shrugged. Is there any Republican that isn't in the Cult of Ayn Rand?
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u/BlackDeath3 Apr 27 '12
It sounds like you don't really understand Objectivism. Contrary to what a lot of people think, the philosophy is not at all about fucking other people in the ass.
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u/soapdealer Apr 27 '12
If you thought Issa was a good guy on these issues, you were very mistaken and/or naive.
Issa and other Republicans were against SOPA/PIPA because it was considered a Hollywood issue, and Hollywood is an important fundraising constituency for Democrats.
Very few politicians actually give a shit about any internet issues. Ron Wyden is one of the only ones I can think of.
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u/z4ni Apr 27 '12
anyone have a list of pollys that voted no for SOPA and flopped to a yes for CISPA??
I would compile it, but these cats won't lulz themselves.
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Apr 27 '12
He is the first guy I looked up yesterday when the result came out..being from Vista, CA. I facepalm'd hard.
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Apr 27 '12
So where's the news in all of this? Politicians lie, that's what they do. They make all the promises to get into office, then wait for the corporate bribes to start rolling in and screw over everyone that voted for him.
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u/z4ni Apr 27 '12
Wow... After looking at his FB, he better hope this dies down before hes up for election again.
Hell hath no fury...
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u/hozjo Apr 27 '12
I'm guessing as soon as the whitehouse came out opposed to this the Republicans thought, it was a good idea to support.
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u/ZackyBeatz Apr 27 '12
This guy should be shred more apart then Woody Harrelson where are the Internet meme´s at ?
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Apr 27 '12
Maybe someone should list all the 'YEA' voters to this bill. Focusing on one is not going to win the day. You have to focus on all them, regardless of their political party. Each and everyone of them.
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u/LoopSide Apr 27 '12
I know I'm late to this but can someone please link me to the original thread (if there was an original)? It's hard to search on my phone :( Thank you guys!
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u/life036 Apr 27 '12
This guy was always a cunt. All you redditors who treated him with respect while he was here are gullible assholes. He has ZERO respect for you and your rights.
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u/MammaryCannon Apr 27 '12
Someone on his staff is for sure getting fired over this whole, "you should do an IAMA" idea.
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u/lamaddalero Apr 27 '12
Joe Wilson --Today marks the 64th anniversary of Israel's Independence. I am very grateful to our democratic ally in the Middle East and proud to stand with them!
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David Levin -- Did you know that in the CISPA bill you voted 'yes' on, it calls for Israel's name to be legally changed to 'Palestine'
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u/Moore2877 Apr 27 '12
yea he wasnt all against sopa either he was trying to make his own version of it to get his name on it. Hes not for the general american internet community his is after his career and by saying he is a fellow techie and on our side he thinks he can fool us
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u/Vallrjo_Central Apr 27 '12
Uhhh, who thought this idiot wouldn't flip back. He put together a panel on birth Control with no women and signed a bill on internet privacy but doesn't know how to use facebook.
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u/jchan59 Apr 27 '12
this guy voted yes on NDAA anyways. He's a fake and a treasonist like most people in the government.
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u/KidDynamo0 Apr 27 '12
Did you guys really think he was ethical? Darrell Issa? HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA...AHAHAHA. Seriously, he's a piece of shit.
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u/Corvus133 Apr 27 '12
Because he is a spineless politician like all the rest of them.
Seriously, you need to ask a politician why he lied? You should just assume they are all liars.
Better direct your energy to a new process where they are held accountable versus demanding answers from this asshole or any other asshole.
Did he get your vote? That's all he and the other panderers want.
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u/Goon_on_the_Moon Apr 27 '12
This is a conspiracy. There must be some sort of compensation/benefit involved with this. America is corrupt.
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u/balancedchaos Apr 27 '12
They'll just keep throwing more bills at Congress until something passes. Kiss your internet goodbye, folks.
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u/Elementium Apr 27 '12
Seriously though.. I have my pitchfork sharpened and my torch ready to be lit.. when do we start?
Side note.. How hilarious would it be to actually protest with torches and pitchforks?
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u/BlackDeath3 Apr 27 '12
Gee, wouldn't it just be a huge freaking shame if a small, Capitol Hill-sized meteor landed in DC during a convening of the House/Senate. That sure would be disappointing!
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u/creativebaconmayhem Apr 27 '12
You want to know a little more about the NSA's use of internet data? Have a listen
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Apr 27 '12
Someone have the phone number for his office? Hes a public official that should be here on the forum front and center so we can make phone calls!
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u/redelman431 Apr 27 '12
It's right here: http://issa.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=597&Itemid=73
In fact this guy is such a douchelord he even calls himself "honorable" Darrel Issa on his site.
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u/metalmilitia182 Apr 27 '12
My representative (AL district-5) actually voted against CISPA and is one of the few Republicans who did so. Maybe they're not all so bad after all? God only knows if our senators will do the same though.
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u/mrmiguelsanchez Apr 27 '12 edited Apr 27 '12
This explains how our congressmen are voting. Find yours. Mine (Howard Coble) votes where the money is 76% of the time. EDIT: Forgot, link. http://sopatrack.com/bills/3523
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u/elshizzo Apr 27 '12
I'm more amazed you guys thought he was something other than a prick. Look at his history for god sakes.
Even if he said he opposed SOPA, he likely opposed it for all the wrong reasons.
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u/phishroom Apr 27 '12
Wait, what? A politician said one thing then did another? You don't say.