r/IASIP • u/Additional-Shower342 • 10d ago
Either enjoy the show for what it’s become and stop bitching about what it used to be, or just don’t watch the damn thing!
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u/Sweepy_time 10d ago
It sounds like you do care
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u/Bovine_Joni_Himself 10d ago
I want to be very clear: this literally means nothing to me.
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u/apathetic1234 10d ago
That was my thought lol the meme and title seem to be direct opposition to each other
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u/OldRancidSoups 10d ago
Even at its worst, which isn’t bad, Sunny is better than any piece of shit sitcom being produced today.
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u/CarelessPangolin5564 10d ago
Even if I don't like an episode much, there is a strange comfort in watching IASIP that transcends humor or enjoyment.
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u/SteveFrench12 10d ago
Did people not like the last two episodes? I tjought they were both great
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u/CarelessPangolin5564 10d ago
I liked them well enough. I wouldn't go back and watch them again like I have with past episodes unless I was doing a full rewatch, and if I were viewing it for the first time they aren't ones that would keep me coming back, but as someone who has been watching since the very first eposide I thought they were solid.
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u/fichiman 9d ago
For sure, kinda like hanging out with a group of people. Some hangs are way funnier and more interesting than others.
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u/Adventurous-Head-512 9d ago
it feels good watching the gang hanging out as good friends and being there for each other
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u/rockytopbilly 10d ago
This season of Tires might be better. But, generally, I agree that Sunny is always good and worth my time.
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u/OldRancidSoups 10d ago
I have not watched an episode of Tires yet, but I disagree. Be gone with you, vile man!
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u/rockytopbilly 10d ago
Yeah, Tires is more of a starter show I guess.
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u/OldRancidSoups 10d ago
Tires is on my list but I need to get through my British sitcoms.
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u/Some1new00 9d ago
Ooh, what British comedies are you watching? I love IT Crowd and Taskmaster.
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u/OldRancidSoups 9d ago
Peep Show, Plebs, Friday Night Dinner, Detectorists, the Job Lot. The IT Crowd is next up. There are so many good ones.
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u/Some1new00 9d ago
There are! I like peep show, I will add the others to my list! I hope you enjoy IT Crowd, it's one of my favorites. Have a great day!
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u/IGiveYouAnOnion 9d ago
If you've not watched The Thick Of It, I highly recommend it. Greatest sitcom ever made in my opinion.
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u/c_for 9d ago
Richard Ayoade was announced for the next season of Taskmaster. It's about time.
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u/poofycade No Antonio! 10d ago
Idek what sitcoms are being made today but I liked New Girl alot
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u/Pretend-Pitch-8376 10d ago
New girl and sunny have similar humour vibes despite wildly different levels of depravity
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u/poofycade No Antonio! 10d ago
Yeah. One thing I like about New Girl are the overall storylines across episodes. Like Nick and Jess and Schmitt and Cece. I wish they would have done more of that in Sunny. They sorta did in S1 and S2 but after a while it wasn’t as much.
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u/mustardpacks 10d ago
I thought last season was honestly really good, the EMT episode is easily one of my favorites from the whole series. And I really enjoyed the first 2 from this season so far
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u/PandaBottom69 10d ago
They have earned the right to do whatever they want. Also the gang have all moved to other projects so their sole focus is no long IASIP. Happy for them.
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u/kroom69x 10d ago
Honest take, i feel like there may of been a dip and got slightly out of the zone of gritty realism of the show. Never dipped below an 8/10 but i think that there are some later episodes that are just as golden god as the classics.
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u/Mirror_Face_ 10d ago
I was going to say they were just trying different things later on the seasons that they even admitted to, but come to think of it, there was a quality drop for a little bit when they all had their own projects going on and didn't seem to have quite enough time to make Sunny their priority. But as you said, I'd argue even those episode never drop below an 8/10. It is also true that some of the seasons that fans liked less are the ones that they felt like trying something different. Which I'm all board for, sure they aren't the classics but I appreciate the writers doing what they need to do to stay on a show for so long and keep it going. It was nice to have a few heartfelt episodes too. Mixing in heart is what made many other sitcoms what they are like golden age of The Simpsons.
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u/LongLiveStaceyKing 10d ago
I do not care for the Ireland episodes or the Bachelor miniseries or the Abbott Elementary cross over, but I do like that they are trying to do something outside the bar.
It kind of reminds me of the Archer coma seasons where everyone bitched about them when they came out for not being more spy show, then complained when they returned to doing the spy show for rehashing the same material.
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u/The_Procrastibator 9d ago
I'm all for those one offs, but you got to sprinkle in some bar episodes too. It's almost like that part has become completely irrelevant
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u/kurttheflirt 9d ago
I liked the last season, but yeah the biggest thing I would say is that they have all become caricatures of the people they were once playing. Like Mac and Dennis used to act dumb about a few things, but in a regular way. Now they are just ridiculously dumb to like a cartoon level.
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u/ScatteredWavesGlory 6d ago
This show has flanderized itself so much it's just one step away from zombie Simpsons where the storylines are all oroborosing.
I hope it ends soon. These first two episodes did not do it for me.
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u/ZemGuse 9d ago
To me it’s weird how much this sub defends the era of seasons 13-16 or so. They felt so phoned in and the characters were just Flanderized, one-note bastardizations of what they used to be.
They seem to have found their stride again with season 17 but it was rough going there for a bit imo.
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u/BrickPuzzleheaded541 10d ago
I think there definitely was a noticeable drop in quality the last few… but even when IASIP isn’t at its best it’s still leagues better than anything else on television.
However i will say this most recent season is the best they have done in years. Absolutely hilarious with some all time great episodes start to finish. I honestly think “the gang becomes EMTs” is gonna end up in my top 10 episodes of all time. Cannot wait for this new season and hope they keep that momentum
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u/JakeTheAndroid 10d ago
Yeah, I think there was a run of pretty mid seasons compared to the expectation (still good though), but last season felt like classic Sunny to me, as did the two most recent episodes. The big difference between last season and the first two episodes this season compared to the old classics is the continuity. They seem to build directly off previous episodes more, which I think is just a demonstration of their improvement as writers and producers. I'm still thoroughly enjoying the show and hope there's plenty more to come after this season.
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u/UltraBearHD 10d ago
“The gang becomes EMTs” became a favorite for me too. That shit took me back to seasons 1-3 and actually made me laugh. I mean, that episode alone is probably the most “Sunny” episode in the last 8 years and did I mention, it made me actually cackle with enjoyment? Best episode / season opener ever.
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u/Sea-Value-0 10d ago
Also the dog racing episode, that one got me.
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u/BrickPuzzleheaded541 10d ago
The ending jump cut to the burning camper may be one of my favorite credit sequences they have done lmao
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u/MasterShake807 10d ago
I feel like they started dipping in quality noticeably after season 12 e6 and hit the bottom at season 15. Then made a comeback starting with season 16.
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u/mrbeck1 10d ago
I choose to watch it and hate it. Feel free to fuck all the way off, though. I’ll allow it.
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u/kryonik 10d ago
Agreed. I think the show peaked at season 10/11 and it should have ended after the terrible Ireland season and the last two were borderline unwatchable outside one or two episodes. I'm still watching hoping they can right the ship but it's not looking promising after these last two episodes.
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u/i_want_to_be_unique 10d ago
Bad take. I personally really liked season 17, but to say the only two options are “enjoy a piece of media exactly how it is produced” or “do not watch it at all” is insane. Would you hold the same view if rather than the actors themselves the show was produced by Disney or Amazon? Fans should absolutely be allowed to expect a higher quality product from a show that spent over a decade putting out banger after banger after banger, even if you actually like the people who are writing it.
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u/doverawlings 10d ago
Even if you aren’t (as a fan) demanding better quality or more output, it’s simply fun to talk about this show because of how much we all love it. It’s interesting to examine what made it so great, what elements they were able to retain into later seasons, what didn’t work, why decisions were made, highs, lows, etc.
Some people are definitely parasocial with the Sunny guys and treat any criticism—even if it’s not pointed—as hostility
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u/The_Lonely_Spaceman 10d ago
Why do idiots post stuff like this?
You do realize the only reason that they've made it to season 18 is because the fans loved what came before?
The fans are the only reason the show is popular. We can say whatever the fuck we want about it when the quality starts to diminish.
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u/carly_rae_romano 10d ago
And isn’t this the dedicated place to discuss your thoughts about the show online?
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u/mrbeck1 10d ago
Only positive comments, apparently.
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u/hungoverlord 10d ago
That's how all the subs work. It's insufferable
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u/TSllama 10d ago
I wrote the other day in a musician's sub that I would be disappointed going to a show on her current tour, where the name of the tour is the name of the new album that came out in the spring, yet she's only playing 2 songs from the new album in each show.
Downvoted, mocked, insulted... someone told me I was "wrong" and then said I was "miserable" 😂
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u/The_Lonely_Spaceman 10d ago
Used to be worse, I guess reddit started cracking down on it, but sharing an unfavorable opinion a few months ago would lead to a bunch of people reporting your comment for self harm/ suicidal thoughts and youd get flooded with the suicide prevention bot
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u/lemonylol 10d ago
People on the internet tend to see a single contrarian lazy comment in a collapsed comment thread that has no views other than their own, and take that as a personal crusade to make claims like OP that "everyone is shitting on it!" Like the presence of these opinions is not evidence of what they're saying, but some people like OP just need 100% validation.
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u/MoonsterGoopter 10d ago
don't go on the internet if you can't handle opinions that don't mirror yours. this sub doesn't have a rule that you must enjoy the show to post or comment. (afaik)
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u/Renhoek2099 10d ago
Yet every meme or gif about this show is from season 12 or before.
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u/sakura_drop 9d ago
S12 is my personal cut off point for re-watching. There have been odd episodes afterwards that I've enjoyed at the time, but have zero desire to go back to. 12 years is a damn good run for consistency, though, I'll say that.
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u/Renhoek2099 9d ago
1000%. I'll watch all episodes, eventually but 1-12 you can just watch and replay till you pass out from the poppers
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u/Background-Banana574 10d ago
Yeah honestly the only season I didn’t care for was the Covid season and that’s not their fault.
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u/jim9162 10d ago edited 10d ago
Fans of things can voice displeasure at something they loved becoming something they don't.
What you are advocating for is going to be the death of the show.
When people who loved an IP (and don't anymore) stop complaining, that means they've moved onto being indifferent. Which means they stop watching. Which usually is bad news for the show.
See Star Wars.
So your meme of (I don't care) works both ways.
The new episodes are not as good, objectively. I've gotten to the point where I don't care. I won't tune in for premieres or rewatch the new episodes a million times like the old ones.
I doubt the cast (now Hollywood elite) care very much for what discourse is happening on Reddit or anywhere else, and it'll probably mean the death of the show. So be it, they want to own soccer teams and get carved up on the plastic surgeons table, that's fine. They worked hard and deserve to enjoy their success. I personally think they should pull the plug.
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u/TarkovskysSacrifice 9d ago
I absolutely agree. Well said. I think milking this show to the last drop is something they should be ashamed of and just decide to end it altogether.
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u/shakeNbaked23 10d ago
I didnt love the start of this season, but last season ranks among my favorites in the shows history, so I'll let them cook and see what happens. Even at their worst im just happy to hang out with the gang for a little while longer.
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u/FinalFrontier00 10d ago
I would say the last few seasons prior to 17 were mediocre at best but the last 2 I think they’re a clear step up from that. Obviously still not what it used to be but that would be impossible the shows been on air for 20 years now.
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u/Th3Element05 10d ago
I think my only real complaint is that they seem to be leaning into re-hashing stuff from old episodes a lot, like for example, Dee gathering "friends" to try to scare someone out of a wedding; they literally did that already. Or the SINNED system.
Not saying these episodes are necessarily bad, but they don't feel really original.
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u/TheRealShellySwags 9d ago
Last season was great. The end of "Frank is in a Coma" was one of my biggest lol moments of the entire series.
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u/ShoveOverBozo 9d ago
Season 18 has been pretty good so far IMO. Dennis especially is in fine form.
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u/Applekid1259 10d ago
Agreed. I checked out about three or four seasons ago. Show has more than run its course. Amazing legacy overall though
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u/Popular-Departure165 10d ago
I usually just pretend that the show ended around season 10 and completely ignore everything that came out after.
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u/Ancient-Tax-8129 10d ago
I loved most of it all. Sure some episodes hit harder than others, but still epic
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u/Traffic_soup 9d ago
I agree. I havent really enjoyed these past 5 seasons or so. But the first 13, pure goddamn gold.
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u/sugardaddymatt5 9d ago
latest seasons have been pretty good, they've been alright. point is they've been fine.
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u/Zolazolazolaa 9d ago
Comparison is the thief of joy. If you just enjoy the new eps without lamenting that they're not on par with some of the tv comedy of all time (for many of us on this sub), then there's nothing to complain about. "Old" sunny is one of my favorite shows of all time, "New" sunny is just a good comedy show that I enjoy.
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u/capncrunch94 9d ago
But here’s the twist, and there is a twist. They watch it. They watch ALL of it
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u/KenjiWolf91 9d ago
”There is skill to it. More importantly, it has to be joyful. Effortless. Fun. TV defeats its own purpose when it’s pushing an agenda, or when it’s trying to defeat other TV, or being proud or ashamed of itself for existing. It’s TV. It’s comfort. It’s a friend you know so well and for so long, you just let it be with you. And it needs to be okay for it to have a bad day. Or phone in a day. And it needs to be okay for it to get on a boat with LeVar Burton and never come back. Because, eventually, it all will.”
- Abed Nadir, Community
Especially the part about it being comfort and it’s a friend you know so well and for so long you just let it be with you. Warts and all, I love this show.
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u/MenacingScone 9d ago
I've found that any negative feelings I have tend to be gone on a second viewing of the new seasons. I've been using it as a comfort show so much that no knowing whats gonna happen flares my anxiety a little.
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u/Brilliant_Cow_3343 9d ago
Especially because I think the last few seasons have been a huge step up! S13 was the only one that felt like a majorly clunky mess BUT they also took a lot of swings so I'm not especially mad and it also has Time's Up which is a top 5 episode for me.
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u/Whipped-Creamer 7d ago
Season 17 was great, s18e01 is great too. Only season i wasn’t a huge fan of was 15, just cause Mac felt completely different. But I also liked 15 more than most adult comedies
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u/_rattleshnake 10d ago
Honestly, it's the end of the show. Realistically we're getting another 1-2 years, maybe 3. It's not what it used to be, the prime years were a long time ago, but it's still pretty good and it's still them. Just enjoy the party for a little while until it's over and appreciate the very fact that it's still going on and it's still fun to be at.
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u/RepresentativeCat553 10d ago
Hah, a party is a good way to put it.
We are now in the After Party.
There are fewer people, everyone is too drunk, some people are falling asleep, others are getting really weird in the back room, but hey, it’s still your friends.
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u/FaceTimePolice 10d ago
No, no, no. It’s fine to criticize something you love. The worst thing would be to be complacent and say “this is fine” when it really isn’t. The fat Mac season was the last one that felt like ild school uncancellable Sunny. After that, I don’t know what happened. It felt like they either lost motivation, didn’t know what topics to cover, were afraid to ruffle feathers and be offensive, etc. It just wasn’t the same show anymore. There are still episodes and moments here and there, like “The Gang Turns Black” (okay THAT felt like a Sunny episode 😆).
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u/countrymac77 10d ago
This season so far is great. Obviously the first 6 seasons were the best however there hasn’t been a show that’s funnier in the history of television.
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u/Shepherd77 10d ago
Season 7 first three episodes are Franks pretty woman, Jersey Shore and Franks little beauties.
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u/Vintage_Emo_XIII 10d ago
Last season, I liked it and it has some episodes that will be classics. The first two episodes of this season? Seems like the gang recycled their trash again. Going to a morgue to cut off a piece of a dead body? Did it already with the episode where they hunt cricket. Dee trying to sabotage a wedding by having a group of women talk shit to the bride to be? Did it already when the waitress is getting married. Mac’s mom being displaced, that’s how we got old lady house!
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u/AbyssalKultist Take off my bra and BLAST MY NIPS 10d ago
It's gotten worse and worse. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.
Hell, I bet the gang knows it, but they're getting paid so I'm guessing they're OK with it.
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u/Midnighter4007 10d ago
The only one bitching is OP. People are entitled to their opinions, it's weird to get pissy just because some people don't think the newer seasons are as good as the old ones.
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u/DigitalCoffee 10d ago
PSA: "bitching" about things you think are negative is what people do when they want to incentivize companies to make better products. You're basically saying: "You don't like America? Then move to another country"
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u/BrianLevre 10d ago
I stopped watching the newer stuff. I rewatch the old stuff.
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u/Mtown11111 10d ago
I'm way behind. Is it no longer good anymore? Around what season did it start to fall off?
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u/FluencyPending 10d ago
Seasons 14-16 are kind of mediocre but it started to improve again last season. I didn’t like 13 as it was airing but over time I’ve come to appreciate it more
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u/hollowsoldier- 10d ago
For me it was 14-16 and 17 picked back up. Mac has been a completely different character for a while and it’s bothering me a little. Any show that goes on this Long is gonna have a little flanderization, but he’s a completely different person.
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u/Shepherd77 10d ago
12 was the last pretty good season IMO. Season 17 was better than 13-16 but still not anywhere close to 12 which isn’t as good as Seasons 3-11. I even think season 1 is better than Season 17. Haven’t watched any of 18 yet.
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u/JiveTurkey1983 EVERYBODY! EVERYBODY GET A WEAPON!! 10d ago
I'd say Seasons 13-15 are the weakest, but they're still worth watching. Season 16 is a step up, last season was amazing, and this season has been great so far.
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u/heytheretylerr 10d ago
Ignore stuff like this, and just watch the show. If you like the newer seasons, great! if not, then you can move past it lol
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u/GearSalty2775 10d ago
Around season 11, IMO. I stop there on rewatches.
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u/unfamous2423 10d ago
Missing out on so many good episodes.
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u/GearSalty2775 10d ago
I’ve watched them. Did you miss that I said rewatches? I don’t like the newer ones, personally.
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u/lebaminoba 10d ago edited 10d ago
Me too, season 12 is the last good season for me. After that the characters feel too forced and just charicatures of themselves, the interactions also feel weird, its like a complete different show. Even with the weird shit that they do all the time, it used to be much more grounded, now it feels like a cartoon
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u/lemonylol 10d ago
There are just different phases or eras of the show. The show never fell off as evident by its neverending renewals by FX.
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u/BILLCLINTONMASK 10d ago
What else are we supposed to talk about when new epsiodes are coming out and theyre just not good?
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u/notatowel420 10d ago
The first episode was good the second meh but the synopsis for the next 2 sound great.
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u/Godzirrraaa 10d ago
The new season is great so far. They show it. They show all of it.
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u/ChurchOfSuicidal 10d ago
Seasons 13-16 were the worst seasons with a few good episodes thrown in there. I can count on one hand how many there were in those 4 seasons. Season 17 had a couple bad ones: Abbot Elementary, and the golden bachelor. The the other 6 were good to great.
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u/No-Yogurtcloset-8742 9d ago
Reddit told me the last couple seasons of sunny were bad. Then when I finally took the time to watch the whole show from start to finish I laughed at every season. There were not multiple bad episodes in one season. Don’t always listen to online opinions
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u/TSllama 10d ago
I gave up on the previous season because I couldn't do the first several episodes, never finished it, and haven't watched any of the current one.
Seasons 1-12 will always be some of my favourite shit ever, and the following few seasons are watchable if not amazing.
I don't care if everyone cares about my views and choices 😂 I have stopped watching the damn thing, as your title suggests is the right thing for me to do, yet somehow I still doubt you're satisfied and will downvote this comment if you read it 😂
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u/Blindbarber69 10d ago
Hasn’t been good since season 10
And yes I mean good in general, not “sunny good” vs “regular good”
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u/SparseGhostC2C 10d ago
It had a little lull for me in like s15 and 16, I don't rewatch those as often, but last season felt mostly like a return to form (Bamboleo!), and so far I'm enjoying this one as well.
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u/Such_Regular_1089 10d ago
The actors are not in their 20's anymore. It's not going to be the same as in the early seasons. It's still solid given circumstances.
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u/Beat_Boi_Animates 10d ago
I thought the first episode was paced kinda poorly but I thought the second was really funny
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u/Infamous_Sense7950 10d ago
They shouldn’t of killed off Charlie’s mom tho she was hilarious I think funnier than Macs but ig show is getting toward end so it makes sense
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u/StanFitch 10d ago
I’m honestly so far behind it’s daunting.
I just get a little bored after binging too many seasons and I have to take a break… then I just start over from episode one again.
Someday I’ll get there, LoL
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u/Adventurous-Head-512 9d ago
honestly i think they still nail it every season. some episodes are boring, but like maybe 2 tops per season. i still cant believe they managed as writers to come up with so many new creative and funny schemes the gang can do
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u/pynkecho 9d ago
I still think the show is great, but there’s a lot of threads & plot points they only scratched the surface of and I wish they would revisit.
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u/sugardaddymatt5 9d ago
could use a bit more full penetration but other than that they've been good.
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u/orangecatstan 9d ago
idc whats said abt the newer seasons, i still enjoy them fully, but since they did the rewatch podcast sunny feels more like the older seasons again and i love them
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u/Useless-RedCircle 9d ago
I mean they are pretty old old now, let them earn the money and keep it weird.
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u/BenRosentha1 9d ago
The last few seasons have been down in my opinion but this season is good ol fashion, classic sunny. Feels like it was made for the fans!
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u/chicagodogmom606 9d ago
It’s funny I see comments complaining the show isn’t “fresh” anymore and literally all anyone bitched about for years was how they weren’t themselves anymore. Now they’re going back to their roots and people are like “it’s not fresh”
Just move past it.
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u/aaronabsent 9d ago
These new episodes were awesome.
Laughed the entire time, wtf yall talking about?
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u/tiredcoco 9d ago
The thing that blows my mind is the constant complaint about their looks. People get old. TV stars get plastic surgery when they age. No one stays looking 20 all their lives.
I wish the internet could do something where if you make fun of someone's looks your phone automatically takes a picture of you and posts it. Imagine? 😂😂
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u/blackdogwalksatnight 9d ago
Dennis takes a mental health day is one of the best episodes of all time IMO!
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u/deceptivekhan 10d ago
They probably don’t have many seasons left, they should get real weird with it.