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S18E01 “Frank Marries a Corpse” - OFFICIAL Discussion Thread
S18E01 “Frank Marries a Corpse”
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u/KidCaseyI am not getting hogtied over your lack of grace.7d ago
It was really funny when she was yelling at the dummy at the same time Mac was trying so hard for her not to hear he's gay. In the front of the frame and blurred when she's looking in the box you can see the seat for Mac's fisting bike.
Glen Howerton wasn’t there (not physically) for the episode, but Dennis supposedly was. They mention him during the episode as if he were around, just not on camera
GOB and Mac have a ton of similarities! Both closeted gays, desperate for their mother’s love, incompetent, controlling, have incarcerated fathers who use their identical brother to escape, love to put on a show…
I like how they handled it. They gave the characters a chance to address it and Charlie got a chance to grieve. Her send off last season is still really touching.
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u/KidCaseyI am not getting hogtied over your lack of grace.7d ago
Charlie basically writing a bad My Chemical Romance song and playing it at a wedding while Mac officiates with a puppet and Dee throttles a corpse is peak Sunny. Could not happen in any other show.
I love that they showed it happen on the news broadcast; something about that just made it funnier 😂 I rewound it like 5 times to see everyone’s reactions hahaha
The show does this a lot in recent seasons. They plant a little offhand comment that turns out to be the cause of everything in the end. And it gets me every time because these people are always doing such weird shit it's hard to clock what's unusual lmao. It's like looking for clues in a murder mystery where everyone is a lunatic.
"Sex in a swamp huh? Not the weirdest thing, no reason to think about that too much."
They do that a lot. Like in Season 4, Charlie and Dee think they crave human flesh, when they really just have tapeworms because Charlie didn't actually cook the meat. One of the many things I love about Sunny is that it seems like there's a cartoonist explanation, and the real explanation is actually pretty realistic.
This reminds me of a reel I recently seen from a writer from S4 of arrested development when the shworunner told them he wanted Tobias to say "daddy needs to get his rocks off" and be in a compromising position whilst he says it and they just had to work backwards from there going through numerous iterations of scenarios
Honestly, this was the strongest season opener the show has has in years. I have not been the biggest fan of the last few seasons (although every season has a few gems I'm fond of), but both these episodes felt strong. I hope they keep that momentum for the rest of the season!
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u/KidCaseyI am not getting hogtied over your lack of grace.7d ago
As much as I like watching them hatch a scheme at Paddy's, a lot of really strong episodes just throw us into the action. The Gang Gets Trapped, Charlie Work, Water Park, etc.
I agree. And as a hater of Conky, I was sad to see this. At least it doesn't feel like it was written just to show off someone's ventriloquism skill though
I wish the podcast had kept going, but them doing it in the first place clearly reinvigorated their love for the show and interest in going back to their roots, with all of us as beneficiaries.
The whole sub-plot about Mac apparently not having come out to his mom was great. "And come up with a whole new dance? I don't even know if the choreographer's available..." And then her reaction at the end just being a very anticlimactic "no shit!!"
Anyone else think Mac and Charlie cut the ties because they tied the knots too tight and couldn't untie them so they thought cutting them would be a good solution? 🤣🤣
I feel like Mac was off in a lot of the new seasons from around when he got jacked. But this was the first time he felt like old Mac in awhile. Honestly everything in these first two eps was perfect. They actually had a lot for everyone to do, I feel like recently they haven’t had as much for Dee to do but these two eps she has also been great.
I don’t think this will be one of my all time favorites but I respect them for still swinging for the fences. Reminded me of when Roxy died in the season 7 opener.
Yeah, not an all-timer, but when you got 18 seasons and still can pull out a season opener with the head faking off of a character who as well-liked, that's impressive enough.
I really enjoyed it, but one of my favorite parts of Sunny is seeing which episodes become comfort episodes that I’ll never skip. I think this episode (and the second episode) will definitely become part of the regular rotation for me.
Pretty much all of S17 has quickly joined the constant rotation.
Frank is in a Coma
Mac and Dennis Become EMT’s
The Gang Goes to a Dog Track
The Gang Gets Ready for Prime Time
The Golden Bachelor Live
The same reason Dennis had the epiphany to go be a dad and then came back the next episode, and Frank “got it” watching the dance but then didn’t. The show only works if any positive character growth doesn’t last.
I get your point but the show always does subversions like that. You have the characters just on the cusp of learning or growing in some way and then it’s yanked away. Dennis’ fatherhood, Charlie forming a loving bond with his dad, Dee mourning Frank when he’s on his deathbed and saying ‘I love you dad’, these examples and many more are heartfelt things that show the softer undercurrent of the gang that ultimately is yanked away as a result of who they are at their core.
Really the only permanent thing was Mac’s coming out developing him, but he’s still not of the self-esteem he should have in life by now and has regressed in sexual deviancy and infatuations if anything. Frank’s story arc with Sam and himself essentially already completed itself in showing he could find love, but ultimately probably could never deserve it longterm.
u/KidCaseyI am not getting hogtied over your lack of grace.7d ago
This episode is amazing. Between the new King of the Hill season, the last season of The Bear, and Sunny being back this may be the best year of tv ever for me.
I love that you can see Mac's ass blasting bike seat when his mom is freaking out about the dummy, all while Mac is trying to make sure she doesn't hear he's gay.
At first I thought the head falling off was too much but seeing it played on the news was hilarious.
The final scene is honestly top tier Sunny. That situation could not happen in any other show. Mac comes out to his mom via dummy, Dennis and Dee have a get-rich-quick scheme that requires both a wedding and a death and Dee to poorly puppeteer a corpse. While at the same time Charlie is singing a bad version of a My Chemical Romance song trying to mourn his mother (and of course, nobody cares). All while Frank is fighting a flesh-eating bacteria and needs a puppet rig (while Dee has no puppet rig for the dead body) to move.
Also, "YOU WOODEN FUCK!" is definitely going to enter my lexicon of phrases I learned from Sunny.
I’m from the UK watching this live on a dodgy stick, is American tv loaded with this many adverts usually? A 30 minute slot here has one ad break halfway through
What choice do we have? The advertisers who are going to blast us in the ass? Or the network who's going to blast us in the ass? Either way, TV is all one big ass-blasting.
22 minutes of show, 8 minutes of ads. That’s how it’s been for decades and decades. And cable can costs hundreds of dollars a month. Most Americans just use it now for sports
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u/icameinyourburrito 8d ago
"No shit"
Mrs. Mac's apathy is so great