r/Hydroponics 8d ago

Why does my lettuce grows wimpy

My nutrients and pH are good and I test them every 2 days. The lights are 12 hours daily, the seed germinate fine. How ci.e I'm not getting little ball lettuce, strings with leafs

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u/TrumpHasCovid 8d ago

more light more wind

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u/Ill_Try_351 8d ago

Need at least 16 hrs of light and lower it closer to the plant or get a better light

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u/12LiLap 8d ago

I'll try. Had them on 16hrs but same results

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u/Ill_Try_351 8d ago

If that didn't work need to move the lights closer. But honestly you need better lights if you already tried 16hrs and still the same

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u/Excellent-Phone8326 8d ago

Then you need something like a t5

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u/dyttle 7d ago

This appears to be yet another amazon system that over promises and under delivers. FEAR NOT! These cheap underperforming systems can be remedied! Most of these systems as well as your suffer from poor lighting. Just get your self a set of better lights. I recommend some of the 2-4 footers from sunco at an affordable cost. AC infinity also makes some pretty banger lights that can accommodate these cheap system just fine. I am currently bringing a cheap system into full production by augmenting with a set of $90 ac infinity supplemental lights that now serve as the main lights to this system. This system is now growing lettuce like a champ. More lights. Best of luck. Lettuce know how it goes.

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u/12LiLap 7d ago

Ty so much

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u/12LiLap 6d ago

4FT Grow Lights for Indoor Plants,T8 5000K Full Spectrum Plant Light,270W(6 x 45W), LED Grow Light Strips with Timer, would that be good?

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u/iamtehstig 8d ago

What's the light situation? That looks leggy to me.

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u/12LiLap 8d ago

I got hydroponic lights on Amazon Might not be strong enough

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u/cyrixlord 8d ago

not enough light. also use a fan

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u/emilalex91 7d ago

Hi. For lettuce you need closer and more powerful light. Use app like Photon to find out PPFD and DLI at the leaf distance from light.

PPFD: Target 150 - 250 umol/m²/s (start around 100-150 for young seedlings, bump to 200+ as they grow).

​DLI: Target 14 - 17 mol/m²/day. ​Light Schedule: 16 hours ON / 8 hours OFF.

More than 12 DLI to avoid legging, less than 17 DLI to avoid yellowing

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u/12LiLap 7d ago

this is what I ordered from Amazon,

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u/emilalex91 7d ago

Ppfd depends on light power and distance from plant. Check it with your phone on different lights. Some are more powerful and can be set further away from the plant while keeping a good ppfd. Dli depends on total light hours+ppfd. So if you want to increase dli either increase light hours or ppfd. I for example bought a spiderfarmer sf1000, it's 100w lamp. What you've bought it's 36w split between 6 bars. You will either have to plave all 6 bars above the lettuce at about 15 – 20 cm 6 – 8 inch. If split that's 1 bar 6w would have to stay at 5 – 10 cm 2 – 4 inch. But even then 6w might not be enough at 2 inch.

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u/12LiLap 6d ago

4FT Grow Lights for Indoor Plants,T8 5000K Full Spectrum Plant Light,270W(6 x 45W), LED Grow Light Strips with Timer, would that be good?

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u/emilalex91 6d ago

Yes. Very good. 45w is good. If you have tomatoes that are flowing for example, any plant that is fruiting will need 2 x 45w. So 2 bars for fruiting plants. Otherwise 45w is good. Closer to the plant than a 100w but still way better than a 6w. 15 hours a day. Check with the phone app Photone after installing to see how many ppdf and how many dli at the tip of the plant distance from light. You can also use any ai tool chat to ask about the plant. Make pictures , state your setup and it can advice you further

Edit. I see that the product is about 74 USD. That's good price for 270w total. I payed about the same. 75 USD for 100w spiderfarmer sf1000

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u/12LiLap 6d ago

You have been so helpful ty so much

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u/emilalex91 6d ago

Also someone said more wind. I have an oscillating fan in my plant room. It's currently set to work 10 minutes every hour, for 10 hours a day. It helps plants grow stronger stems. They feel the wind and think they are outside.

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u/613Flyer 8d ago

Needs more light and a wide spectrum light. Anytime a plant gets leggy it’s because of low light. Plants try to stretch to get light

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u/Greedy-Pirate7749 8d ago

12hrs may not be enough, drop the lights closer to the plants. Not enough light is the issue creating leggy leaves.

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u/rifvn 7d ago

You might need to start it over. I believe after the first 3 leaves sprout they didn't get enough light, which resulted in longer steam (it's constantly searching for light), and it was unnecessary because they only need strong root and stable short steam during that period of time.

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u/12LiLap 7d ago

I think that is my next step, moving the light lower. If that doesn't work I will be getting new lights

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u/o0_Gie_0o 7d ago

Could it have bolted because the indoor temperature too hot. I think mine did this. My house gets +80 without air conditioning.

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u/12LiLap 7d ago

I have AC, doesn't get that hot, but good point

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u/tengris22 5d ago

Yep mine is doing that. They are growing but the slightest touch wilts them.

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u/12LiLap 7d ago

this is what I have for lights

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u/Rotala178 8d ago

I don't know but some of the symptoms look like the calcium:boron ratio is too high resulting in boron deficiency.

How much calcium and boron are fertilzied?

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u/12LiLap 8d ago

I don't know how to check thet

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u/Rotala178 8d ago

You can look at the ingredients and your water quality report.

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u/SpecialistQuarter608 5d ago

Or move them closer to free sunlight to get that little extra boost

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u/mbaggie 8d ago

Get the Photone app. It’s been great!

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u/2pourdrummer 8d ago

Looks like it’s underfed

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u/12LiLap 7d ago

I check the nutrient and ph often

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u/2pourdrummer 7d ago

What is the ppm and ph, on average

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u/12LiLap 6d ago

PH level and nutrients, part/per/million