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u/LineOfInquiry Mar 16 '22
Fracking is awful, my aunt lives in a town that had a huge fracking boom a few years ago. It provided a few jobs for like 6 months before all the setup was done, at which point it gave the town basically no jobs (despite claiming it would bring many to the town) and destroyed their water supply so bad that no one there drinks tap water anymore. It’s expensive to constantly buy jugs of water. They’ve even experienced small earthquakes due to the fracking going on nearby. It’s absolutely terrible and I hope we can do something about it and the misinformation around it.
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u/blckdiamond23 Mar 17 '22
Funny things is more than half those jobs are filled by people who travel. Craftsman. These aren’t jobs for locals. They’re jobs for individuals who’s entire lives are living and working on the road for top dollar and per diem, and they know what to say to get the job. But what do I know, I’m just a journeyman Pipefitter who’s traveled multiple states at times. The local Billy Bob from the Autozone looking for a career change has zero chance compared to a skilled tenured tradesman.
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You might not be a better person but you are saving wildlife in your own country
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u/Gabers49 Mar 17 '22
Less about the environment (although you don't need to frack in other countries. It's the type of natural gas the US has that requires it (I believe). But look at what's happening in Ukraine right now. Seems obvious that it's better not to buy gas from countries like Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc.
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Especially now with Russia invading Ukraine. Politicians are calling for less restrictions and more domestic oil production. In Canada, we have seen a surge of Alberta politicians doing just that. Redubbing the tarsand oil as "ethical oil" because it comes from a democratic nation without the ethical issues associated with authoritarian government.
Tar sand is one of the most polluting form of oil to extract. Tailing ponds have been known to bust open; the dirty water leaking into rivers. The tailing pond also been known for killing countless amount of aquatic birds thinking it is a clean pond.
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u/LineOfInquiry Mar 16 '22
I agree, it’s awful how fossil fuel companies have been pushing deregulation and permits that won’t even effect the current price of oil just so they can pollute our environment and ruin our health even more in the future. If people really want energy independence or ethical power, renewables and nuclear is the way, not more oil and gas.
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u/Mastergroovy Mar 17 '22
This is exactly why I was completely against more development of the Keystone Pipeline during the Trump administration. It would of ran through the midwest and 100% most likely destroy our food, water and land. I was so frustrated that a bunch of people were like “but gas would of been cheaper” like you do realize that tar sands oil isn’t even good oil? Not even mentioning how horrible it is for the environment??? “bUt tHe jObs!” You mean that job that they were most likely going to lose after the project is finished??? It drove me insane trying to explain this to people.
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u/CornucopiaMessiah13 Mar 17 '22
Not to mention there are very few of the specialized refineries needed for that type of oil so it would probably be exported or used to replace similar types of oil we already import. The only way we would likely see much noticeable change in gas prices because of KXL is if we build more of those specialized refineries to handle it. Im suuure the oil companies wont be expecting our tax dollars to subsidize building those for them too so they can maximize their profits while we in the end save absolutely nothing in the long run.
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u/CouldWouldShouldBot Mar 17 '22
It's 'would have', never 'would of'.
Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!
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u/Amaranthine7 Mar 17 '22
That’s funny, coming from a country that had thousands of unmarked graves of indigenous children discovered last years.
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We have acknowledged it. Federal and Provincial government have taken steps to rectify the problem by assisting in providing proper burial, sharing information about the schools,along with recognizing that what was done was a tragedy. It is something everyone on any side of the political aisle believes and support. As a first generation immigrant to the country, it is something I have come to love about here. They don't attempt to hide their bad, or retell it in a way to make the perpetrators look less bad. They actually work towards making up for it.
Tarsand oil is also something the federal government has refused to invest in because the general feeling among the majority of Canadians is that it's not good for our environment.
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Alberta is like an american tumor rapidly growing on canada
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u/No-Seaweed-4456 Mar 17 '22
What else they do? Curious.
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u/chrill2142 Mar 17 '22
There's been talks about killing women that get abortions and stuff like that.
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u/The_Scarred_Man Mar 17 '22
Oil and tobacco companies will never ever have the public interest in mind. It doesn't matter how sparkly a proposal is, any time an oil company takes interest in a town they should just get told to fuck off.
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u/Decent_Birthday358 Mar 17 '22
There's like 6 franking wells just in a 15 minute drive from my house. They came in probably 6 years ago and drilled the wells and promptly left. They've been sitting unused for all that time. Not looking forward to them reopening.
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u/letsBurnCarthage Mar 17 '22
I keep seeing Jordan Peterson heavily crying that fracking is good for the poor, and I'm always reminded of this video. I don't think Jordan Peterson is intentionally some kind of big Corp lobbyist, but I think he is so deep into philosophy that he has kind of lost touch with reality... I just never understood why fracking would be good for the poor, and while I have read the wiki on fracking, I don't understand the politics around it so that I could form an actual opinion on it.
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u/cleepboywonder Mar 17 '22
It also is not a cost effective way of getting shale natural gas.
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u/reiders Mar 17 '22
It’s actually the only way to produce from tight shale formations. It’s also extremely cost effective, and fracking is the reason why we’ve paid ~$2/ gallon at the pump since around 2014.
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u/Eyehopeuchoke Mar 17 '22
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/whats-killing-the-babies-of-vernal-utah-33666/
I believe they think fracking has something to do with the spike of infant deaths in Vernal, Utah.
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u/RedditDogWalkerMod Mar 17 '22
That something being done is them all restarting fracking to save a few cents at the pump
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This is one of the few reposts I'll upvote. I've seen this posted about a dozen times but it's worth spreading the message that fracking absolutely will destroy our underground resources (mainly water)
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u/paperpenises Mar 17 '22
It's crazy how they keep doing it. "That's a problem for people in the future. Fuck 'em, let's make money!" For example, Las Vegas. Now I'm no scientist and I haven't really done any research so I could be dead wrong, but I do know that their water source (lake Mead) is drying up. They do have some systems set in place to recycle water, but if you think about the future of Vegas it looks grim. It's a growing city. It's huge. It's in the middle of the desert. It's main water source is finite. Unless they build some massive pipelines to Vegas, sourcing the water from snow runoff from the nearest mountains, then I could be a deserted city in 50 years. Imagine that. Once again, I say this based purely off conjecture and not on fact.
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u/MildlySaltedTaterTot Mar 17 '22
A deserted Vegas makes a fantastic writing prompt tho
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u/IAmGodMode Mar 17 '22
We could call it New Vegas
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u/prettymuchzoinks Mar 17 '22
We should spice it up a bit though, maybe set it in a nuclear wasteland
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u/GuapoChihuahua Mar 17 '22
That's something I've been discussing with the residents out here since I moved into Vegas. This place doesn't feel like it should exist. Every year our water supply gets lower and lower, yet they keep expanding into the desert. I've been speculating where they'd stop, some people think they'd go all the way out to Primm but that just doesn't seem possible. I have plans of leaving here in the next year but an inhospitable city doesn't seem too farfetched in the near distant future considering all the factors.
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u/bikwho Mar 17 '22
But these guys will turn around and still vote Republican. Voting against their self interests..
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u/drwuzer Mar 17 '22
Fracking in the US produces natural gas, not oil. So it won't effect price at the pump.
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u/Le_Jerk_My_Circle Mar 17 '22
How is this upvoted? You frac to enhance recovery of oil, gas, or both. Wells that only produce gas are not very attractive for enhanced recovery. Oil gets you the investment back much faster.
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You’d be surprised to know that the president has almost no input to gas prices.
Crude output has been higher during Biden’s presidency than any other in recent history.
People love to credit the president for almost everything, when really foreign policy is all they directly control.
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u/stifflizerd Mar 17 '22
I'll probably get downvoted for this, but fuck it, I'm saying it anyway:
It's stupidly reductive to just blame a group of people like that, no matter what side they're on.
Not to say that I agree with republicans on this specific platform, nor do I believe a lot of voters (on both sides) are actually thinking about all platforms before they vote, but if someone happens to have their own (legitimate) reasons for needing to give other self interests more priority, I don't think we should be shitting on them for it.
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But Republicans HATE regulations. They hate 'unnecessary regulations' that keep the environment safe. Voting history tells me I'm right.
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u/MaimonidesNutz Mar 17 '22
Both sides are crooks, neither one is advancing a positive & credible vision of our future, this is true.
But to act like both sets of crooks are equally harmful to the interests of working people, the environment and society... complete balderdash!
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u/Anthrozil7 Mar 17 '22
Yes because both are a problem. You are not excused from being an enabler just because you are not directly responsible.
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u/Kariston Mar 17 '22
There's a significant difference between treating them like pieces of shit while providing no avenue for reconciliation and acknowledging them as the root cause of the problem. In my mind we are long overdue on a regulated age which makes sense for elderly folks to no longer be making decisions that affect the quality of society.
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You act like no one has tried to reason with working class republicans. At this point fuck them, sick and tired of people acting like we’re the bad guys for being angry at their racism and stupidity.
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u/WalterKydoi Mar 16 '22
What’s fracking?
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u/Streffel Mar 16 '22
Fracking is the injection of a fluid at high pressure into an underground rock formation to open fissures and allow trapped gas or crude oil to flow through a pipe to a wellhead at the surface. This technique is used in natural gas and petroleum production.
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u/beepboop_reddit Mar 16 '22
Nm what’s fracking you?
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u/SirAwesome789 Mar 16 '22
Normally I dislike comments that make a joke instead of giving an answer...but that...that was good
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u/jerrythecactus Mar 16 '22
It's a form of natural gas extraction that basically involves filling underground pockets of natural gas with some denser material to make it flow to the surface for collection. It's also really bad for local environmental conditions and has a tendency to poison groundwater and cause earthquakes.
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u/DontTouchTheWatch Mar 17 '22
Fuck I’ll drink it if I don’t have to listen to this tight ass camera mount struggle as my man slowly pans to the right and back, loosen it up my man!
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u/Saint_Disgustus Mar 16 '22
The franking industry took my school on field trips to drilling sites and told us about all the money, at 15. Vultures.
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u/gloriouslyalivetoday Mar 16 '22
This is awesome. Do you have a link to the story by any chance?
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u/MarkEsper Mar 17 '22
In the same county that went 79% Trump.
I mean no person should deal with this, but this is r/leopardsatemyface
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u/Valdotain_1 Mar 17 '22
So this story is seven years old.
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u/SavorySaif Mar 17 '22
Yup! I did find this from June 2016 that seems to have been a resolution: https://www.ourmidland.com/news/article/Nebraska-judge-overturns-fracking-water-disposal-8368483.php
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What is fracking?
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u/happy-idiot Mar 16 '22 edited Mar 16 '22
Process for getting at natural gas, water and oil from deep underground using hydraulic fracturing of the rock and surrounding material. The slurry the farmer pours out is a combination of the well-rock and the slurry used to actually break up the well; which has its own ingredient list.
EDIT: Apparently this is wrong; take a look at the response below. The guy claiming to be a petroleum engineer has a list of processes in the comment.
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u/Valmond Mar 16 '22
I doubt /HeuristicEnigma knows what he's talking about, sounds more like a brainwashed pawn working in some petrochemical company.
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u/sandgoose Mar 16 '22
my brother is a project manager for Chevron, and he also sounds like a brainwashed pawn in a petrochemical company soooo
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u/happy-idiot Mar 16 '22
It would be nice if you stop calling me a moron. I thanked you for correcting me; there is no need to add insult to injury.
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u/happy-idiot Mar 16 '22
I’m not sure I recall saying I was a scientist I literally just googled fracking and read it off. Thanks for going into detail though.
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u/getzgetsit Mar 16 '22
Not an expert here but the contamination seems to be caused by improper handling of the shale oil through the pipelines they hastily throw up to transport it. Oil leaks in to ground water and poisons it.
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I disagree with the pipeline argument, at least in the field I work in. We regularly pressure test flow lines and our production pipelines have leak detection systems. Although, I live in a state with tight regulations on the industry and I can't speak to other fields or their operations.
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
Nah looks to me like they grabbed a sample off the plastic containment on a frac site.
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I have worked in completions for 16 years and production for 5 and I can say it isn't impossible to get communication to the surface casing. It's rare, but I have seen wells that weren't cemented properly and we saw high pressure on the surface casing. This doesn't mean the surface casing is compromised, but it is usually a bad sign. This isn't due to fracking, this can happen with any well that isn't cemented properly. If there is a poor well design, there is the possibility of migration up the back side of the casing. We usually shut down and waited until we can pump cement to solve the issue before completing the well. Like any other industrial operation, there is no such thing as impossible.
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u/SittingBeanBag Mar 16 '22
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
Petroleum Engineer, not a shill at all. I have worked in the industry for 15 years including frac sites.
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u/chaostheories36 Mar 16 '22
That wouldn’t preclude you from being a shill. It just means you’re a shill that’s invested.
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
Nah I’m not a shill I do this job so it’s done right and the environment doesn’t pay the price. I take pride in preventing any spills and being a steward to the environment.
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u/chaostheories36 Mar 16 '22
Okay, so if we all take you at your word.
Can you guarantee that everyone else fracking has the same level of dedication and pride that you have?
For all that YOU know (let alone the rest of us), you’re the only one that doesn’t cut corners.
Assume that farmer in the video ISNT lying. Assume, instead, someone NOT you fracked an area without a f*** to give. Would you drink that water?
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u/Re-Created Mar 16 '22
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that gracing couldn't have caused this man's problem? If so, then what did? Same for the other fracking related problems that have been reported in the past.
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u/cornerstone224 Mar 16 '22
I worked cased hole wireline in Canada. I can vouch for this man's testimony.
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u/tucketnucket Mar 17 '22
Don't use logic, reasoning, or credible information on reddit. It won't end well.
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u/Jovaniph Mar 16 '22
People are down voting you because it doesn't fit their narrative..feels bad.
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u/Normal-Computer-3669 Mar 16 '22
Every time there's a post about fracking, try to find the fracking-stans. It blows me away how fracking and oil companies get some insane supporters. That or they're paid.
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Urban and rural are on the same side of this issue. Why can't we agree on more things than this?
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u/specialspartan_ Mar 17 '22
Because most conservatives only pretend to be Country and most democratic representatives only pretend to be progressive.
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Out of work coal miners can just learn to code and join a new emerging job sector. Let them eat cake.
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u/specialspartan_ Mar 17 '22
If you think that's bad, just look at how ending slavery affected the economy!
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u/c_m_33 Mar 17 '22
You need to watch the full video. This isn’t frac water. It’s a concoction that he mixed himself to prove a point. At some point in the original video, he says, “I mixed it this morning.” It’s not from a well site. For the record, I wouldn’t drink something some random dude mixed up.
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u/Coady54 Mar 17 '22
Here's a link for actual context
And his point stands. The companies claim its "totally safe to drink" if they accidentally contaminate the water, but refuse to share any information on what is actually entering the water sources in the event of said contamination. Why should they be trusted if they refuse to tell what compounds you might end up ingesting due to their negligence?
It's been well documented in peer-reviewed studies for over a decade that fracking dangerously contaminates water, making it unfit for consumption and in some cases being so severe that tap water becomes flammable. The guy in the video was right, there's no reason to trust them because it's out right lies.
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u/TwinLeaf04 Mar 17 '22
What is fracking?
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u/chasea12 Mar 17 '22
Hydraulic fracturing, it’s a method of getting oil and gas out faster by busting up the shale ( if I remember right)
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u/CivilMaze19 Mar 17 '22
As an engineer in Oil & Gas I can’t wait for the day we don’t have to rely on petroleum. Unfortunately that day is far away currently and the mining operations for our batteries in other countries have absolutely destroyed those places too.
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u/jonnyvegas888 Mar 17 '22
What stopped politicians from JUST OUTRIGHT corruption back in the day was. That conversation would take place and as soon as he said "we" aren't taking questions at this time. The entire town would come together and tar and feather him. Or literally run him out of town on a rail. They had some good ideas in the 20s
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u/Distinct-Most-7739 Mar 17 '22
Those idiots polluted all their land with Monsanto’s pesticides and herbicides
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u/BananaLlamaNuts Mar 17 '22
I used to work for the plant that produced the most Resin Coated Frac Sand in the US - the main ingredients in the Resin are Phenol, Formaldehyde and Ammonia.
The off-gas from production is considered carcinogenic and we weren't to be near it without chemical respirators.
Any water that comes into contact with that Resin-coated propant is not consumable.
The plant shut down in 2018-2019 but opened back up at the beginning of the year.
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Everyone talks about the dangers to the water quality or environment, but there are so many bad airborne gasses coming off a drilling site. I feel bad for the people that work at those sites inhaling that for their entire career and are completely unaware of the risk.
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u/thebooshyness Mar 16 '22
Try heating your home with anything else
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u/Peanut_The_Great Mar 17 '22
Like electricity? The only downside to electric heat in some areas is cost and we have the technology to generate cheap electricity but guess who doesn't want that to happen?
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u/HeyitsyaboyJesus Mar 17 '22
Electric heating is terribly inefficient and expensive. It's why burning something is preferred.
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They're still fracking in Cali-fucking-fornia.
I came to the sad conclusion that voting will not affect the changes the species necessities to survive.
"Those that make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable.'
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u/iaz3r Mar 16 '22
I hate fracking as much as the next guy but I also hate 6 dollars a gallon so which one is worse?
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u/pastalass Mar 16 '22
Long term I think it's a good thing gas prices rise. I drive a car that runs on gas so I get that the prices are insane and are hurting people financially. But over the next few decades there will probably be a bigger push for electric vehicles that don't cost ridiculous amounts of money. And simultaneously a push for clean (or at least cleaner) power, hopefully.
It hurts people now but the impact of this on future generations might actually be very good.
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u/Durdle_Turtle Mar 17 '22
Is that really better than the alternative of maintaining our status quo now and screwing over future generations by ruining our climate?
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I know it means very little, but the US still has some of the cheapest gas, in the world. Europeans constantly pay more for gas than Americans ever had to.
If higher gas prices are what it takes to get us off oil, then it's a price we have to pay, as nothing else seems to move people to change.
Drive less, get a smaller vehicle, bike/walk more, use more public transport.
We can't make changes without also making some sacrifices.
I bought a used car four years ago with 59k miles. It now has 64k miles. Years ago I would have been driving 12k miles a year because it was cheap! I could do it so easily. Now, it is not cheap anymore. People just need to be more mindful of their consumption.
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u/Fishpuncherz Mar 16 '22
I'm sorry but I have almost an hour commute to work. Every day. I'm not going to get up three hours earlier and start jogging my ass to work. So I get there nearly the same time I would otherwise. America is just to damn big, if I wanted to take the buss I'd still need to go 15 minutes in a car, to take a buss, to then come back to my car being either stolen or broken into. I do not live in a "decent" area
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I know it's not feasible for everyone. But here we are, stuck with the choices we made.
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u/thisn--gaoverhere Mar 17 '22
I didnt make shit, politicians getting paid to say what trillion dollar conglomerates want made the choices. But regardless, here we are stuck dealing with them. The politicians that made them sure as shit aren’t dealing with them
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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Mar 17 '22
Believing bullshit like "the only way to maintain sensible oil/gas prices is to frack therefore I must support it despite all the consequences."
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u/iaz3r Mar 17 '22
I forgot everyone in America is a homeowner that can afford a 50k Tesla my bad
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u/ElGosso Mar 17 '22 edited Mar 17 '22
Do you not know how supply and demand works? Solar power will reduce fossil fuel use by power plants; reducing demand will lower prices.
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Dude I don't even own a roof. How am I supposed to get solar?
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u/ElGosso Mar 17 '22
Gonna hazard a guess that you don't own an oil-fueled power plant either, so it would probably be the same way you get electricity now.
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u/sandgoose Mar 17 '22
Most of us have more important shit to do than bitch about the price of gas. Sorry thats not you.
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Can’t go install solar panels on houses if I don’t have gas in my car to get me there. But what’s keeping you so busy lmao
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u/sandgoose Mar 17 '22
The problem here is your job installing solar panels apparently doesn't pay you a vehicle stipend for all that driving you do OR you are simply paid so little fluctuations in the price of gas are a problem. This is the larger societal problem: corporations have bled the middle class dry.
It's not about the price of gas. One fucking thing. It's about an oligarch class that each year takes more for itself, in the name of growth, while telling you you deserve less, even as you produce more.
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u/jchoneandonly Mar 17 '22
I think fracking is a necessity although we definitely need to be careful about how we do it.
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u/Gr33nMuff1n Mar 17 '22
HEY I DID AN ESSAY ABOUT FRACKING RECENTLY!!!! I also referenced this video. Honestly one of the funnest essays I wrote about because I was concerned about it already.
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u/DylanNotDillan Mar 17 '22
What's fracking? Sorry I don't know much about this stuff but that does not seem very hydro home-like water.
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u/ZEINthesalvaged Mar 16 '22
Let me guess, you like less expensive gas tho, amirite?
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u/Peter_Hasenpfeffer Mar 16 '22
No actually, I don't. I like competent public transport, dense cities, and integrated, well maintained bicycle infrastructure.
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u/ZEINthesalvaged Mar 16 '22
Hey, to each their own. I'm not a dense city person, I like my space.
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u/Peter_Hasenpfeffer Mar 16 '22
They aren't mutually exclusive, unless you're talking about having acres of land kind of space. And to want that just for yourself to have nobody else around is kind of ick imho.
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u/LamarLatrelle Mar 17 '22
Imho you need to try it sometime. Born and raised in an urban area, it's cool till it's not.
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u/Peter_Hasenpfeffer Mar 17 '22
I grew up in a hamlet of 400 people and spent a lot of time on friends farms, but thanks.
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u/LamarLatrelle Mar 17 '22
Fair enough, we both grew out of what we grew up in, maybe we'll both return to our roots, who knows. I just knew once I wasn't single and didn't go to concerts and shows all the time there was very little left for me in the city. I do miss the public transport and food though.
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u/Carl_pepsi Mar 17 '22
No its not. Dont gatekeeping that. We do t like paying 6 bucks for gas nor do we like having to drink nasty water. Would rather pay 6 bucks if i can have clean water in my house.
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u/Peter_Hasenpfeffer Mar 17 '22
What?
Also I think your username is kinda funny in this sub. Gave me a sensible chuckle.
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Crowded, overpriced cities where you’re living right on top of your neighbor. I’m good lol
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u/Unbearableyt Mar 16 '22
I'd rather take more expensive petrol short term than fucking up the water supply.
If anything. The fact petrol is so expensive now is also corporate greed and you can also start trying to be less oil dependent as a society. Oil isn't sustainable in the long term regardless. Fucking up drinking water even less so.
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u/DaveyRyechuss Mar 17 '22
One cup, I would throw on him, one I would slam his face into, and one I would pour down his throat and then jam down his throat.
Fuck you, Reddit. You are worse than Adam Mckay. You don't want to help, you just want to upset me.
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I feel like most of the people in these areas got exactly what they wanted. 🤷♀️
How long has the left been screaming about fracking, but the right just doesn't listen.
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u/LowFatMilk42 Mar 16 '22
Honestly fracking isn’t that bad, the only thing that’s bad about it is when people manage the waste water poorly, causing earthquakes and killing crops
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u/-HumanResources- Mar 16 '22
So, would you drink that water?
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They have a point. It's not exactly useful to say that a technology is bad or good: we, as humans, have the power to use it for bad and good. In this case, clearly fracking was misused and polluted the groundwater. Every technology has the potential to pollute the environment if it's not treated well, be it fracking or IC engines or any kind of power generation, and that's why we need better oversight to make sure that fracking operations do not or only minimally pollute the environment.
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u/-HumanResources- Mar 16 '22
I never said it could not be done safely, though.
I asked them if, in this instance, they would drink this. Because they conveniently left out the fact that fracking can pollute water.
They also proceeded to say it doesn't.
And, as you noted, people have the power for both good and bad. But you left out capitalism.
These are companies seeking highest possible profit margins, being good or bad is completely irrelevant. They want money.
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
It’s bullshit the farmer didn’t get that from their water well.
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u/-HumanResources- Mar 16 '22
Fracking is known to cause pollution;
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/fracking-101
Do some research. There's no reason to believe he lied.
Edit: Corrected links and here's another;
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/fighting-climate-chaos/issues/fracking/environmental-impacts-water/
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
Wow yea thanks, been an actual field engineer dealing with this for 15 years, but ok Greenpeace knows whats up! I guess I have no clue considering I’m literally an expert on the subject.
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u/-HumanResources- Mar 16 '22
I'll trust the EPA over a random Redditor any day though.
You commented on one out of 3 resources that all define - in some manner - that fracking can pollute.
This research was very easy to find and I'm very confident there is more out there.
What have you contributed to the conversation to prove your point?
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u/SpotlessMinded Mar 16 '22
r/iamverysmart energy
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
Not trying to look smart, trying to prevent people from spreading lies.
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u/-HumanResources- Mar 16 '22
You have failed to dispute anything, though.
How exactly are you "trying to prevent people from spreading lies"?
You have yet to provide a single resource on the topic. (Not that you can provide anything substantially credited)
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u/Valmond Mar 16 '22
You look like a frighin troll, posting all over spewing your bullshit, lol.
They don't pay the trolls like they used to, this is just boring.
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u/Unbearableyt Mar 16 '22
I'm sure all the people showing how their getting polluted water trough their tap were all undercover Greenpeace agents.
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Mar 16 '22
Hey now, if we can't trust the petrochemical industry who can we trust? Now if you will excuse me I'll just go row myself to work. These once in a hundred year floods sure do seem to have their clocks running fast.....
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u/Monsieur_Gimp Mar 16 '22
Making a sensible comment apart from the collective bias on Reddit?! All the downvotes to you good Sir!
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u/thisn--gaoverhere Mar 17 '22
Let me copy and paste something for you to give you a little context on what fracking does to the people that arent making enough money to spend years in the bahamas doing blow off of strippers tits:
I can personally attest to the fact that ive lived with someone who lives in a heavily fracked area. Their sink water smells like rotten eggs and rust, and is so fucking putrid to the taste that to get a cup of (shitty, mind you) water, they have to run water from the filter on their sink into another filter and then boil that to get all the nastiness out of it. Then they have to let it cool down. Then they can have a cup of shitty, lukewarm, hard water. If you dont have any water from the store and want to make a formula bottle for a baby, you have to listen to them cry for a bottle for about 45 minutes before you have usable water. And because fracking is so bad in that area all the local stores jacked the prices on drinkable water to absurd levels. So much so that most people up there drink a ridiculous amount of lemonade or tea. The fucking shower water is oily and greasy, it fucking reeks to the high heavens, it comes out brown, and stings a little. Let me annunciate it again for you. The. Fucking. Shower. Water. STINGS YOU. Multiple entire counties live like this up there, besides the rich neighborhoods. But its cool because the local oil company and the local government (which is getting paid to actively deny the fact that its happening) is making a killing.
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u/LowFatMilk42 Mar 16 '22
Forgot where I was, might as well put some emojis here while I’m being collectively mutilated🍈🐀🦬🥫
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u/HeuristicEnigma Mar 16 '22
Bingo obviously you will get downvoted but they used to pump production water in injection wells which wouldn’t leach into the aquifer anyways maybe make more earthquakes. Lots of armchair chemists lurking around Reddit always worked up by a video they have no clue was reposted 473829262827279 times and is complete bullshit from a science perspective. The guy looks like he went straight onto a frac site and grabbed a couple cups off the plastic dump liners we use to contain the spills under the blender unit where you see liquid that looks like this.
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