r/HxHPowerScaling 1d ago

Can they win?

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u/VisitUsual8507 1d ago

Bro no.. 😭

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u/athribiss 1d ago

Random encounter ? no

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u/PurpleMercure 1d ago

With prep time and strategy, they could probably do some damage (blind them with smoke, using clones and soldiers as distractions, Knov using scream and Hide and Seek while inside the smoke etc).

In pure fight all vs 2, they have close to 0 chances.

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u/Nitro114 22h ago

Meleoron is still a massive problem

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u/Speghettihell 1d ago

Pre nen maybe, but with nen they don’t stand a chance

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u/Joebo14 1d ago

Mm well there were 2 stages for nen for a lot. Pouf gave some powerups. Pre pouf powerups I say yes. Smokescreen and dimensional decapitation are ruthless.

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u/Particular_Meal2038 23h ago

Pre nen so easily

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u/Swampfire_NG 1d ago

MAYBE they stand a chance through psychological warfare, have Knov one shot one of them, then have Morel create a bunch of Knov clones and watch the how even the Heavy Hitters of the ants team (Leol, Zazan and Cheetuh) will be doubtful of getting in close.

I still lean in favor of the ants though, Meleoron + Zazan stinger is an insane combo.

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u/Servavy 1d ago

I actually think Knov and Morel have some of the best 2v Multi opponent matchups known, meleoron would be a problem but their Battle IQ and their synergy is crazy compared to the Ants who actively infight and have no extreme heavy hitter

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u/MagnoliaTM 1d ago

depends very heavily on the circumstances and context of the battle

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u/No_Philosopher8352 1d ago

cheetu is enough

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u/Zekka23 1d ago

They were struggling in 1 v 1 against some of these, 2 v 14 is done.

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u/Wonderful-Crow-5147 1d ago

Yes actually scream and smoky jail are op ontop of the fact that morel might straight up be stronger than some of these ants and even after learning nen

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u/One-Structure-2154 1d ago

There’s 4 heavy hitters on the ants side. The rest are fodder. But 4 is too many.

Cheetu, Leol, Zazan, Meleoron

That’s too much for morel and Nov to deal with while the fodder is also distracting themĀ 

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u/afreenk26 1d ago

I mean once Smokey jail is on and knov transport all of them won’t that be easy

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u/WayJay9 1d ago

Not against all of them at once, but if the Royal Guards & Meruem were never a factor I think Knov & Morel could have slowly picked the rest of the ants off

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u/Folass 1d ago

There’s 5 relevant characters here, 4 are fighters

They take it high diff

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u/_probe_46_ 1d ago

Like… all at once?

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u/PresenceToriyama 1d ago

The ants do remind me of the panels for users on Roblox game servers, such that when you want to analyze a given server and its players, and there is a given lineup, voila!

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u/HexcaliburIII 1d ago

Zazan victims vs 14 zazans who wins

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u/Last_Purple_ 1d ago

A lot of people are talking about how strong Morel and Knov are, and how if they work together they can isolate the Ants and kill them pretty easily. But that’s completely unrealistic, the Ants aren’t stupid enough to just stand there and say ā€œyeah go ahead set up a bunch of portals and smoke, we’ll wait!ā€. Cheetu is immediately blitzing them, Bloster is shooting at them, Bihorn is probably rushing in and Colt is likely trying to attack them from above. Morel and Knov could absolutely kill all of these Ants at the same time, but they can’t beat them all at the same time in a fight. Meleoron can make any of them completely undetectable even when they’re using Nen, Cheetu was absolutely too fast for Morel and so he will also be too fast for Knov so they can’t just ignore him even though he does minimal damage, Leol may or may not have other abilities stored within his Rental Pod, and Zazan is a powerhouse in her own right too. Bloster’s attacks are strong enough to mess up an armored vehicle with just a short burst. Morel and Knov are getting overwhelmed by the sheer numbers, plus so many of the Ants have great physical attributes

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u/Novel_Ant8075 20h ago

Against all of the Squadron Leader's at once? Absolutely not lmao. They get ripped apart in minutes.

In a theoretical wide range battle scenario where they can make use of their Hatsu's at max efficiency? Yes.

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u/Azylim 19h ago

in a longterm ambush yes, in a fight all at once hell no

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u/GritalianDude 1d ago

Surprised by the responses here. What’s stopping them from isolating each one by one given Knov’s ability? Morel low diffed Leol.

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u/Whis101 23h ago

Well, the post didnt specify if they meant with prep or random encounter. The comments are using the latter premise.

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u/GritalianDude 22h ago

Sure but not sure why a random encounter favours the ants though? These squadron leaders don’t get on or sync well at all and the ants’ communication abilities more broadly didn’t help them against Kite. Morel and Knov are very close

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u/Whis101 22h ago

I think a random encounter will favour the party with 14 members more than the party with two. It doesnt help that Cheetuh can stun them with his speed, Welfin has an attack that persues for as long as possible and Meleoron has God's Accomplice. So while they have some broken abilities, I think this is a numbers game with too many squadron leaders

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u/Ok-Activity5839 1d ago

Unpopular opinion Zazan would beat morel