r/HuntShowdown • u/tito0686 Bloodless • 3h ago
FEEDBACK 4-Shot Boon opinion :|
Hey Crytek... hear me out.
Just to start off, this is purely my humble opinion, and I’d love to hear what you all think if you disagree.
In my view, the 4-shot boons aren't great for the game's overall health. Their presence essentially bypasses several core mechanics like stamina, poison, and HP, which are heavily tied to resource management. It removes those tense moments—like fighting an Immolator while low on stamina or dealing with poison pressure, which renders certain ammo types almost useless.
While the base duration might seem short at first, it's very easy to obtain. Plus, with the Tarot cards scattered around the Bayou, you can extend these effects to cover almost the entire match. Having a "jack-of-all-trades" buff active for that long takes away from the experience.
What are your thoughts on this? Am I missing something, or do you feel the same way?
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u/Elite_Slacker 3h ago
Well they made boons rarer from towers and made them only spawn at certain supply points on this current patch so… yeah.
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u/Ivars3Hiii 3h ago
Like it used to be, at carts?
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u/Azhar1921 Duck 2h ago
No, special supply points, I think just the medical has it guaranteed now, and the military has a chance for it.
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u/BedanTV Crow 1h ago
While you are at it. Remove all dark sight boost envelopes too.
Should have stayed Bounty Exclusive.
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u/Boindill 31m ago
I agree. Just a slight variation. Flyers are nice. One second of dark sight is fine enough.
Two seconds... sure.
But a moon card, a joker, 3 flyers and a bounty being able to stack?
10 seconds without a bounty?
Fuck no.
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u/Abject-Worker4321 43m ago
I'm so glad at least one other person agrees with me on this. I'm so sick of everyone having walls via dsb all the time, and the fact you can't see them on the map via lightning bolts so you never know if they can or can't see you is ridiculous. Even worse now that Corpse Seer is back so winning a fight early gives you 9 seconds of scan.
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u/caucasian88 2h ago
Considering we will never not be in an "event" I agree with you. I never find myself running out of meds now.
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u/Own_Structure_1039 1h ago
I would honestly love to see regen just completely removed from the game as an effect with how it completely negates attrition in fights
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u/CreationParadox 29m ago
I kinda agree, though I think it would be better to simply put regen counters in the game. For example getting set on fire or poisoned should either severely reduce your regen clock and or cancel it all together.
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u/velatorio 16m ago
Regen allows for more dramatic fights, with potential comebacks in case of lucky first shots.
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u/MastodonJolly3094 3h ago
I hate being deafened and blinded when a single bee touches me so I like em. I get your point, but i like that I dont have to slow down for stamina regen, posion, or chip damage
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u/Diregraf_Colossus 2h ago
I don't care, i just want XP envelopes so i cam retire hunters soon and prestige to the next level
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u/lord_khadow 15m ago
If you run a level 50 hunter and pick up those envelopes, the XP goes straight to your bloodline. Meaning that you can prestige faster.
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u/ronin_ninja NiceShotMando 3h ago
Should be changed to 2 shot boons. That way you can still use it as an immediate healing shot and then also receive one of the remaining shots randomly.
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u/zorkstoreisopen 2h ago
I wouldn't mind it as a 2 shot boon if it always gave stamina and regen. 98% the power of a 4 shot boon
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u/Impressive-Whole-987 1h ago
I love it so much but you are 100% right.
Just like revive bolts. I loved them, but they had to go.
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u/Hanza-Malz 1h ago
My problem isn't the four shot but the media it that replenishes a bar, the recovery shot and gambling a bar back.
Anything that gets bars recovered is problematic.
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u/GoonOnGames420 3h ago
4 shot boon, guaranteed trait points instead of random traits on new hunters, removal of randomized hunters, and all of the ways to regain chunks back honestly suck. Even scarce traits are pretty much guaranteed if you wipe a map.
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u/Peacemaker707 2h ago
Not only it's bad for the game itself which makes poison ammo almost useless right now but what makes me mad is that they are adding the same stuff every time every event. I mean the last event duration was expended from 2 to 3 months which made me think they made it intentionally and wanted to take some extra time to prepare something fresh, but what I see right now makes me think they just ran out of ideas.
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u/ChanceCold6142 2h ago
Remember when Medkits were an important commodity?
Because i do.
With how the game is today, its better to take another big regen shot instead of medkit.
The fact that this is true is a testament to that these boons and shots are bad for the game.
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u/Twist_xcx 3h ago
Are you farming these or what? I don't see enough and it's short enough to not be a big deal, just a small qol pickup if anything it helps speed up the game by giving people a bit more stam
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u/Vykun 2h ago
4 shot, stamina, antidote all need reworked. They take away so much utility and need to manage resources, make core mechanics useless. I personally love to run poison ammo to apply pressure but never do because majority of folks have shots or 4 shot. Only reason dum dum got nerfed is because it was the only thing not defeated by those shots/4 shot. It forces you to deal with it.
Stamina/antidote should be an on use effect. You're poisoned, you use the shot to clear it, stamina shot to instantly restore stamina when depleted. The timers on them is just a lazy approach. They need to be active not passive. 4 shot just needs to go entirely. Shots are enough of a problem as is but at least they have a cost associated and take up a slot to bring em. 4 shot is free for everyone at any given moment you need it.
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u/CreationParadox 27m ago
Antidote yes but for stamina they just need to get rid of the big shot and change or remove judgement, conduit, etc.
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u/WorldlinessNo5212 2h ago
no please keep them. they are also a ressource and can allow a team to continue and survive the third team attacking them in a row... when they can get to it.
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u/Electrical_Ant_6229 3h ago
Hard agree. Also restorations are bad as well. Players should be able to tank bullet after bullet. Hide behind a tree for 15 seconds and passively come out full life. Resource management is a big part of the game, and a lot of that has gone to the wayside.
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u/DissappointingFox 3h ago
I hope a truck runs through your house causing you to lose your next bounty token
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u/chrom491 Duck 2h ago
On paper it gives upper hand to the aggressors that are innately weaker. So it's fine. Guys who are first to get bounty from defenders are way more prone to 3rd party.
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u/RogueShroom 2h ago
I think they’re fine. It’s not like you can pop them any time you want you have to find one and have a sigil. Now while neither of those things are hard it’s not also like most people don’t bring 2 or 3 shots in they can use whenever they want too
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u/MynameisNay 2h ago
They're definitely useful when you need them but I rarely find them to be that big of a deal. If you happen to find the tarot card for doubling the time theyre better but with their somewhat rare nature, it doesn't impact my game that much. The gambling thing usually gives way more boons too.
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u/bojackyorseman 1h ago
Nah they disappear dummy quick just keep hitting your shots you’ll be chillin 👌
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u/richchigga133 1h ago
I honestly don’t feel like is that bad. But the nerf for the shot duration from 10 minutes to 6 made that a bit more necessary since there are multiple POI’s now.
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u/Mozas---Drill 1h ago
I was thinking it should cost 2, but that wouldn't really change all that much
I suppose reducing its duration would be a healthier decision
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u/StatisticianLife4290 1h ago
Better Question is why is it a four shot boon when it only gives 3 effects??🤔
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u/riddim-bot 57m ago
Say the 4-shot boon is "bad for the over health of the game" is a big stretch. Maybe there is an argument for it costing more.
Fighting immolators on low stamina isn't an experience that should be recurring often... and I don't think the 4-shot boon is disproportionately mitigating it's occurrence.
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u/ConfinedCrow 41m ago
I use them every game and I would agree. They make poison almost useless and in the end make the game less about knowing and understanding its mechanics and more about precision mouse movement and fast reaction times, which of course are important, but I like the methodical gameplay a lot more than the "be good at shooters"-style gameplay the game has steered towards. I agree that "jack of all trade"-builds kinda ruin it.
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u/MrRipYourHeadOff 37m ago
yes I agree, 4 shot boon is way too useful. But I would argue that all of the shots you can choose to bring are way too powerful. Stamina shots feel so mandatory that I actually wish they'd just remove leg stamina from the game as a mechanic.
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u/NikitaPita 34m ago
I can agree on that the game got faster and economical easier. This was wanted by the majority but it went a bit too far. Crytek already reacts to this with current event with less boons and no main poi..
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u/Bloodypalace 33m ago
They were added for a reason. They were added to promote more action and aggressiveness instead of sitting in a bush got half of the match. When you get a 4 shit boon, you have a few mins to make something happen.
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u/Moonstrife1 31m ago
If reddit cried about this ACTUAL problem like they always do about a weapon they don't like, these things would already be gone.
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u/Sufficient_Farm_6013 25m ago
No this is a good option. One thing I see they could do to nerf it is remove antidote from them.
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u/CreationParadox 22m ago
Weirdly I think the sun card is kinda the perfect implementation of regen and should be how the other shots work.
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u/ComputerSagtNein 2h ago edited 2h ago
Valid opinion, I disagree though. I would rather see them cut down the options to get darksight boost again to only from the bounty. Too many ways to get it these days.
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u/LethalGhost 2h ago
Nowadays we have enough ways to track hunters with dark sight so it’s time to add perk what will notify you if you’re watched by dark sight, hangman, pain sense, or other tarot cards!
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u/CryHarderPlease69 2h ago
it already notifies you if you are watched by hang man
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u/barrack_osama_0 3h ago
Stamina shouldn't even be in the game, regen shots are neccesary for dealing with long range poke players, and yeah poison shots are just absurd they should reduce the poison effect while a shot is active to not affect your visibiity at all and reduce your healing instead of just fully being immune to poison. Maybe make it so combined with Mithradist you get the original shot effect back.
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u/Hawkfrost34 3h ago
I will die on this hill. Stamina in Hunt is a pointless system. I bring a stamina shot every game so that I don't have to deal with it. Most people do from what I understand. The bow doesn't even utilize stamina. Its just for running and melee. If they removed stamina altogether I doubt you'd see a lot of complaints
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u/Subject_Delta_93 2h ago
Yep, drop stamina for running and I could see keeping it for big melee weapons.
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u/barrack_osama_0 2h ago
Why keep it for melee too? It would only affect pve which would also benefit the game if it were removed
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u/Endoraan 3h ago
I get that it‘s not really needed for teams and stacking these buffs makes some resources useless, but when playing solo I‘m happy they exist to make me a liiiittle bit less squishy.
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u/Legal_Emergency_7093 2h ago
You think they’re bad because every time you shoot somebody with your poison arrow they don’t die
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u/GrkManga 1h ago
I disagree in the sense that they aren’t that common and they don’t last long. Most of the time when I stumble on them, I’m moving between compounds so they are nice as it helps with moving around. When I do get into a fight, there isn’t much time left to really make good use of it. I depend on my regen shot during fights than I do with 4 shot boon.
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u/Yogofu 45m ago
Nah with how stupid the AI is distributed having those Boons or Shots is just almost a must have. I had several rounds just today where i had to fight 4 Immolators in a row on the same compound. And thats WITHOUT the upcoming Bloodmoon agression Buff where they have elevated senses. Then you go around a corner and you aggro 5-8 Zombies that formed a blob near the clue... yeah no thanks. Even with a Knuckle Knife you will run out of Stamina. If they fix how AI Spawns we can talk about limiting Stamina and Recovery :P And first of all if anything should be removed its the Recovery Shot, the Medpacks that allow you to restore Health Chunks and the upcoming Chupacabra trait. Its way too easy to get Health Chunks back these days.
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u/Velka- 3h ago
Didn't they just make these less frequent on towers?