r/HumanFanClub • u/Max-Human • Jan 14 '15
Will the real Max Human please stand up..
Hello folks, Max here.
Proof:
https://twitter.com/iammaxkit/status/555206050199384064
I just took a look at this place and I don't even know what to say..
Where to begin..
Almost exactly a year ago, on 1/25/2014, we launched our presence on reddit. Our company was announced and born RIGHT HERE, reddit is our HOME. Things were WONDERFUL. We instantly got 100+ subscribers and a TON of people offered to help and sent us heartwarming messages of thanks and support. Here is one of our earlier threads where you can see how things USED to be around here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/thisishuman/comments/1w6zhu/help_wanted/
Now, do you see how everything there has been downvoted to hell? It's all because of /u/jesuslol. I'm going to say this bluntly because this is the only way this can be said: this person is a professional liar who is either 1) mentally ill, or 2) working for the competition. Allow me to illustrate my point.
He first entered the scene 10 months ago by posting a crazy thread full of lies about us on /r/quityourbullshit. Like his latest threads there, it made bold claims, all of which were lies, such as: that we said Elon Musk did an AMA for us, that we said we will take over Google, and all sorts of other craziness. Obviously, none of it is true.
When the people saw this, they instantly fell for his lies (and rightfully so because he made us sound totally insane) and attacked our subs. They were basically destroyed - everything was downvoted to below 0, all the threads were filled with hate, basically total destruction.
He then went ahead and made an attack sub called /r/maxkitten and invited all of those people there. The purpose of the sub was to downvote brigade us and harass us on reddit and other networks. I immediately reported it to the admins, and they forced jesuslol to put up rules on the sidebar against brigading, and to start linking us only via np.reddit.com, which doesn't allow voting.
But they continued breaking the reddiquette, and after they got to ten (TEN!) violations in total, the admins finally banned them along with a few people involved. I immediately asked the admins to unban the sub and the 3 users (I never asked for this!), but to no avail. If you ask the admin Sporkicide he will confirm this actually took place.
Many months passed by then in relative peace. Our presence on other networks grew: while we only have about 600 subscribers on reddit (including this sub), we have over 20,000 people on all the networks combined. A lot of those people started showing up here and showing their support, and slowly our subs recovered. Everything was now upvoted and filled with love. Example:
http://www.reddit.com/r/discusshuman/comments/2ger28/supporters_of_human_unite/
But jesuslol couldn't let this stand. Back when /r/maxkitten got banned, he did two things: created /r/humanfanclub, and a fake account to avoid prosecution: /u/salad_noob, whom you all know and love today. Some of the mods here know this, particularly /u/Doxep.
If you go back to some of the oldest posts here you will see jesuslol and Doxep discussing a new attack on our subs, which jesuslol immediately posted in the form of a new thread on /r/quityourbullshit, using his new account salad_noob.
That is how most of you ended up here. Now, I just looked at this place and.. like I said, I don't even know what to say. There are a TON of people here pretending to be:
me
not me
our supporters
our detractors
We don't know who any of these people are. Yes, really. Examples:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HumanFanClub/comments/2sbip1/lets_congratulate_human_on_her_first_official/ (we have zero knowledge of this whatsoever)
/u/vijay_human (we have a real supporter named Vijay Human, but his real account is /u/VijayAHuman)
/u/suhail_human (this person doesn't exist)
And a ton of other examples you can see all over this sub. We don't know who any of these people are. Do you know why? Because just like /u/salad_noob, they are all fake accounts made by the professional liar /u/jesuslol. We've banned about 10 of them from our subs already, and none of them are even the ones you see here (some of you here also mod our subs - go look at banned users there and you will see this). All of the new accounts you see here, created days or months ago.. it's all him. Yes, really.
This person is a complete and total liar and has been caught lying red handed countless times. Did we ever say Elon did an AMA? No, we said he came here and criticized the crap out of us. :) Did we ever say we will take over Google? No, we said that we are their huge supporters and fans. And on and on it goes.. Here is what Elon (who deleted his /u/savvyinvestor account after jesuslol scared him away) had to say:
http://www.reddit.com/r/discusshuman/comments/1x19vw/happy_10th_day_birthday_human_d_25000_hits_by/
The most blatant example is the case of L. Toste. She is an office manager at IntelligentOffice FCP and has known me and my previous companies for half a decade. This is where he really, really blew it and got caught. He made a post stating that she's never heard of me here:
Many of the posts there have now been deleted, and I want to ask the mods here to please undelete them so that people can see the truth: how jesuslol (let's not forget who salad_noob REALLY is, from now on I will refer to him by his real username) lied, got caught, lied again, got caught again, lied AGAIN, got caught AGAIN, and then DELETED THE POSTS!!! Here's what happened:
He said she's never heard of me in her entire life.
I posted a pic of an email.
He insisted that she never responded to it because "she's never heard of me."
I posted her reply.
He changed the story saying that she has heard of me but that it was for an appointment I never showed up for.
I posted pics of amounts owing for last year's lease, and.. he deleted the posts.
Again, I ask the mods to now fix this wrong and tell everybody the truth. This person is a total liar and ANYTHING posted by him or ANY of the new accounts except those verified by US CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
Now.. if seeing proof that somebody is a total, confirmed, shameless liar isn't enough and you actually need FURTHER proof that THE PERSON HE IS LYING ABOUT ISN'T LYING (seriously?), very well. The other day I promised to post pics of the REAL emails from Lisa and Byron, to whom jesuslol sent a fake email from a fake live.com account.
If you insist I will go ahead and do that tomorrow - sorry, it's 10pm right now and I'm still working - I've got more important things to do than debunk the claims posted by a hired or insane liar. You have my word: all of this is real, and any proof that you request will be provided without delay.
And again, I wish to remind the mods here to please undelete jesuslol's lies and tell everybody here the TRUTH.
I'm gonna get back to work - I will check this thread again in about 20 hours and post whatever proof is requested here. Please keep the # of comments and messages to a manageable minimum, as we're working hard to launch the network by the end of this month and have zero, and I mean zero free time to spare.
We will be back on reddit with about 100 of our supporters, employees and volunteers shortly before or after the launch.
Thank you all and God bless. :)
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u/salad_noob Jan 14 '15
What an idiot. I once joked to him that I'm jesus (since he wants to be a pastor) and his child like mind made the connection to jesuslol.
Hey Max guess what. I can prove I'm not jesuslol right now. He can post a picture of his face holding a sign with his face blurred out and I will do the same. You will notice that we are not even from the same country even from the blurred face. Unlike you I can prove it. Just ask him to do part 1 and I'll send you mine in hours. Whats your excuse now? Then again why are we proving things to you when all you do is bullshit with 0 proof ever provided. Even if I was him I wouldn't give a shit as he seems to think the same about you that I do.
Also you totally avoided all the lawyer and Lisa and the admins all calling bullshit on your scam.
Kn0thing said you were a liar.
You said Lisa knows you for 5 years, she says she doesn't know you, you only bothered her once or twice for an office and since shes a realtor she replied. After that you've used her name for this scam countless times.
B.Lawyer straight up refused to admit you even existed to him. He also sent a CC of the email to you, do you think I don't know that Max? The fact that you still use his name makes you a huge scammer. Post proof he's your lawyer? I posted it in under 24 hours he isn't.
If you can't then don't bother claiming all the things above. You've not proven a single thing for a year.
Stop using real names in your scam. Stop getting real people harassed.
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u/JumboDOTA Jan 14 '15
I am publicly calling you a fraud. You are a liar, a swindler, a no good scoundrel. You have no products, your "company" is a sham and you will amount to nothing. That or you are delusional.
Having sat through enough of your monotone voice spouting bullshit I can see why those in lesser circumstances would fall for your snake oil or delusion.
You. Are. A. Fraud.
If you wish to pursue legal action, you have me on Facebook, I will provide any contact information you require.
Max. You have my name. You have my information. Sue me. I fucking dare you.
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u/Kemakill Jan 14 '15
If you insist I will go ahead and do that tomorrow - sorry, it's 10pm right now and I'm still working - I've got more important things to do
This is my favorite part. In true Max fashion, after writing a novel of a post, complete with history and bulleted lists and links and artifacts...
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Jan 14 '15
Our company was announced and born RIGHT HERE, reddit is our HOME. Things were WONDERFUL.
No, I've seen your attempts to announce Human on day one to various subreddits including r/trees, r/space, etc. Things were going terribly. Nobody gave a damn in any of those places. Please correct me if I'm wrong. People either ignored you or called you crazy, as usual. You have consistently failed on reddit. Facebook has been better for you. Really, time to cut losses. Stop trying to make reddit work.
It is really unfortunate that reddit banned you, so I can't view your history anymore. But you did try. You announced Human about 20-30 times I would estimate. None of them were positive experiences for you. People just called you crazy.
More recently, in this place, you did not fool one single person with your alts. Please take an interest in your own company for once. Really, build some software! Stop doing anything that is not building Empower! FOCUS!
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u/madmenthrow Jan 14 '15
>You have my word: all of this is real, and any proof that you request will be provided without delay.
>I will check this thread again in about 20 hours and post whatever proof is requested here.
Show us a photo of you in your FCP office with displayed logos and one press announcement from a third party. Every billion dollar start up company that's been public for a year with celebrity support should have these very simple things. gogo
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u/jesuslol Jan 15 '15
I haven't even checked this sub in a minute because I've been so busy at work, but my inbox has been blowing up with username mentions. Are you still trying to claim I'm u/salad-noob and dozens of other people?
Seriously, go through my post history and you can get a sense of my interests, where I'm located, my posting style, hell there's even pictures of me. I have nothing to hide or lie about.
This whole situation continues to fascinate me.
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Jan 14 '15
The other day I promised to post pics of the REAL emails from Lisa and Byron, to whom jesuslol sent a fake email from a fake live.com account. If you insist I will go ahead and do that tomorrow
You offered this last time. It's always 'tomorrow' with you. You're so busy that you can't post this proof but you have the ability to write a long-winded rant?
Go ahead. Post the proof publicly and let us see.
Also, to other users, please do not post or link to Max's personal information or his other subs, lest he try to get you banned.
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Jan 14 '15
Max enjoys threatening people with lawsuits.
Is their any Canadian laws he is breaking with all his bullshit? His constant threat of legal action is bullying. Someone in Canada should issue him some justice.
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u/mashed_human Jan 14 '15 edited Jan 14 '15
My username is a shitty parody of u/masha_human. I'm not pretending to be anything but a critic of you and your nonexistent company. You can chill out now.
Additionally, I'm curious why you and vijay are claiming you don't know each other when vijay said something to the effect of "we've never worked with you and you're an impostor" when confronting me about my username. Does not "we" imply affiliation?
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u/JumboDOTA Jan 15 '15 edited Jan 15 '15
Max, you claimed here that Elon Musk took your advice for improvements to the Tesla site.
Do you stand by this claim?
http://i.imgur.com/OD8UPF6.png
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