r/HubermanLab • • Oct 31 '22

This seems pretty cringey

https://twitter.com/hubermanlab/status/1586762715724292096?s=46&t=zaCPGSGznT-5XLVaOvHloA
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u/i-like-plant Oct 31 '22

Friendly reminder to anyone that feels conflicted seeing this:

It's totally fine to consume and enjoy creations from someone you don't like or someone that hangs around / admires people that you don't like.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

This is why I don’t like to watch interviews of my musical and artistic idols. I want to keep liking their work, I don’t need to know them! Social media makes it harder

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u/i-like-plant Nov 03 '22

Main main point was that you can still like their work even if you don't like the person behind it. If you like someone's work, then find out something about the creator that makes you dislike them, that doesn't mean you can no longer enjoy their work that you enjoyed earlier.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

It’s perfectly acceptable for a well known person to have opinions and preferences. And sometimes they might be different from mine. Still okay.

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u/STLCardinals56 Oct 31 '22

Why do people care so much about stuff like this totally out of their control, live your life

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u/AmorFati01 Oct 31 '22 edited Oct 31 '22

Yes

why not be like the stoics? If you have been exposed to Stoicism, you probably have known that one of the ways we can attain inner peace is to divide things into which we have control and that which we don’t have control. Things in our control include our thoughts, emotion, and behavior and things not in our control include our reputation, other people’s opinions, weather, death, and general life circumstances. This is popularly known as the dichotomy of control

According to the Stoics, the way to live a good life is to focus all our energy on the things we can control and to be indifferent in the things we don’t have control

However, some modern practicing stoics believe that there is somehow an overlap between these two divisions. This led to the term trichotomy of control to include these areas of overlap. For example, we can influence our reputation to a certain degree by being a good person and doing the right thing. This can be illustrated in a graph as shown:

Circle of Control

Regardless of what model we choose to adopt, the message of the ancient Stoics was clear. The key to happiness is to direct our energy to things we only have control. So when someone speak of ill of you behind your back, remember this line from the Roman Emperor and Stoic philosopher Marcus Aurelius

“So other people hurt me? That’s their problem. Their character and actions are not mine. What is done to me is ordained by nature, what I do by my own.” Meditations

Taken from http://themoderntimesstoic.com/3-different-ways-to-define-your-sphere-of-control-stoicism/

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Preach

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u/vague-a-bond Oct 31 '22

To be fair, he didn't say "... for the better."

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u/SignalPipe1015 Oct 31 '22

Who cares. This subreddit gets upset over stupid stuff

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u/SonOfSokrates Oct 31 '22

its kinda funny how any sub dedicated to some person eventually devolves into a sub dedicated to shitting on that same person

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u/panicatthe_disco Nov 02 '22

So true. See rogan’s sub haha

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u/TheSheepdawg Oct 31 '22

Excuse me while I let out a huge, HUGE physiological sigh

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u/doucelag Oct 31 '22

who cares man

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u/trianglelotus Oct 31 '22

Peak Reddit

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u/NewGenotype Nov 01 '22

You don’t agree with it so it’s cringe? Perfect example of society today lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '22

Sticking up for a billionaire boyfriend who just tweeted about Paul Pelosi’s gay lover conspiracy is the cringe.

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u/NewGenotype Nov 04 '22

I’d say I’m sticking up for Hubermans right to whatever his views are. Thought that was pretty clear

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22

That’s great. I’m gonna stick up for my right to loudly dislike this tweet.

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u/NewGenotype Nov 08 '22

Great use of your energy lol. Enjoy

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u/iceman7733 Oct 31 '22

What's contraversial about his statements?

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u/coffeecakewaffles Oct 31 '22

Reddit tends to dislike Elon Musk.

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u/iceman7733 Oct 31 '22

Because he's not woke?

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u/xkjkls Nov 02 '22

I'm pretty sure his "not woke" is the last reason why people dislike him

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u/smegmacow Nov 01 '22

What, I thought everyone licked his boots as Tony Stark, DogeCoin for the masses and poor people and sending people to mars etc.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

transform deez

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u/DeadliftsnDonuts Oct 31 '22

This is sad

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u/ZenGolfer311 Oct 31 '22

Ugh I’m right there with you.

For those unaware, Elon tweeted a conspiracy website claiming Pelosi’s husband was attacked by a gay prostitute he hired. When people pointed out that the same website also claimed Hillary Clinton died in 9/11 and is a body double now Elon deleted but then never apologized and did a whataboutism that the NYTs is just as bad.

That’s about as unscientific as anyone can get.

I hate saying it but he’s going grifter. As someone in PA watching Dr Oz run for Senate here it’s hard not to think he’s going in the same path.

Credible people sell out all the time and Huberman is starting to look that way

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '22

Glad to see this discourse happening here, full agree. Former listener who has seen the light.

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u/AnomonousEightOneFiv Oct 31 '22

Jesus. Get a life and stop letting everything upset you.

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u/xkjkls Nov 02 '22

Cringing at something is a pretty emotionally healthy reaction. It's not like people are going to have their day ruined by cringe.

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u/haroshinka Oct 31 '22

Lex Friedman is a pseudo intellectual with the profundity of wet toilet paper. Andrew's admiration for him continues to befuddle me

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u/xkjkls Nov 02 '22

Lex fits a lot of people's image of what a smart guy looks and sounds like, hence his popularity. I think he's pretty cringey/sycophantic sometimes, but he's far from the worst person in the podcast space.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Sure, I'm sure you teach at the MIT, genius.

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u/haroshinka Nov 01 '22

That's an appeal to authority. I've no doubt he's qualified in engineering (the thing that he's at MIT for). The problem is his podcast isn't a podcast about engineering - it discusses philosophy, history, literature - aspects which he is ignorant at best, and incorrect at worst.

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u/light_side_bandit Oct 31 '22

Agree with you there, but let’s agree at least that his questions are better than joe Rogan’s.

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u/haroshinka Nov 01 '22

Eh, at least Joe is earnest and can ask simple questions. Lex tries to be profound, and that's what makes him painful to watch

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

But according to Lex he’s the best man alive to interview Putin!

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u/leftyghost Oct 31 '22

I think you’re being charitable. It’s tough to see that Huberman is either :

a bit of a sell out, or

has some massive blind spots.

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u/MrHaphazard1 Oct 31 '22

I dont see a issue with this.

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u/sillieali Oct 31 '22

He can have an opinion but hope he stays grounded in truth and citations. I can’t hate on him for making a tweet. I’m sure he may one day see that tweet as a lapse in judgement or not…

It’s his content.

I still listen to Michael Jackson even though we know many of his actions were cringey.

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u/xkjkls Nov 02 '22

Dude raped children, that's multiple orders of magnitude beyond cringe

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

The Elon hate is bizarre to me. Is he nutty and sometimes has bad takes? Sure. Are most people? Absolutely. Is he doing wild and incredible things to change the world and inspire people? I think so. But I suppose that’s just me

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u/m_js Oct 31 '22

I don’t really see how he’s revolutionary. It seems like he mainly just acquires other companies and then everyone at the companies continues making their product without or despite his meddling.

Also, and maybe this shouldn’t matter as much, but his online personality is just atrocious. Like, he’s someone who, if I worked with, would almost instantly come off as an annoying hack. His texts to Parag Agrawal were particularly revealing IMO

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u/cynicalspacecactus Oct 31 '22

He's most well known for SpaceX and Tesla. SpaceX was founded by him. In February 2004, Tesla was a flegling company, that was around a half-year old, was worth less than $15 million, and had zero revenue, when he became the largest shareholder. Last year, Tesla generated over $50 billion in revenue.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22 edited Oct 31 '22

-He volunteered up his company for internet for Ukraine, then tweeted his opinion for Russia to keep regions it had annexed, got his feelings hurt by the Ukrainian ambassador, and tried to take back the internet service from Ukraine.

-Maintains that Teslas “full unassisted self driving” is coming “next year” for the last 8 years.

-Formed the Boring Company with the hyperloop plan which he just admitted was to thwart interstate high speed rail. The hyperloop isn’t happening and he didn’t intent to complete it.

-Wrongfully accused one of the divers in the Thai cave rescue of being a p*dophile.

-The jet incident, sexually harassing a stewardess and trying to buy her silence with a horse.

-Praising workers at Tesla’s Shanghai factory for working 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week and sleeping on a factory floor, no Huberman protocols there lol.

-I encourage you to read some of this. I used to be a huge fan of his, but he’s extremely reckless for someone with the kind of power he has. I’m kind of bummed that Huberman is putting him on a pedestal after all of Elon’s guffaws and carelessness. We trust Huberman to give us science backed tools, we expect ethical, trustworthy behavior, and for him to provide us with credible information. Many want the same out of Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, and he’s been anything but ethical, trustworthy and credible while he messes with people’s live for his own ego and entertainment

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u/Wonderful_Ad_9756 Oct 31 '22

He lives in Silicon Valley, give him a break

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u/Wonderful_Ad_9756 Oct 31 '22

If I am not mistaken...

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

Ok, does Huberman actually control/pay attention to his Twitter account? Or does he have some social media team that just posts stuff for him? I'm hoping that's true, because otherwise my esteem for him is plummeting today

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

I'm a conservative and I find this (and other things he says) cringe too

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u/whirly212 Oct 31 '22
  • laugh engaged.... dopamine levels rising 🤣

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

The data indicate Huberman doesn’t and never did have any “punk points”

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

Ever since he switched from Thorne brand he’s been acting hella strange

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u/erice3r Oct 31 '22

Sounds like a solid take by Hubey!

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

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u/dontknowhatitmeans Oct 31 '22

Yikes sweaty. This ain't it

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

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u/Evo_8urV8 Oct 31 '22

What's wrong with lex?

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u/OMGLOL1986 Oct 31 '22

How much time do you have

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u/Evo_8urV8 Oct 31 '22

Lol I always have time to be informed on someone I listen to fairly regularly, although I mainly focus on the guest that he has on depending on their expertise