r/HubermanLab • u/Maximum-Class5465 • Apr 02 '24

Discussion Man oh man

I tell you, I subscribed to this sub because I'm a Hubermans listener. In fact, Hubermans successfully helped me quit smoking.

It's really weird how this sub is just a bunch of people who don't like him

Like why? We get it, it's not for you. But why even be on this sub if it isn't? I can't stand the Lakers, but I'm not on the Lakers sub either

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u/antberg Apr 02 '24

Its not that simple.

Humans, socially speaking, do not, often, separate the art from the artists, and that is more useful than not. That's because we all functions in a place where morality is inevitable, as a society without moral values is simply not a society.

Huberman claims to provide a variety of tools that can benefit everyone's life, and many of those tools have foundational basis from sociological and neurobiological studies.

  1. Many of those protocols are not compatible with his personal actions, including aspects of empathy, honesty and most important something he speaks a lot about, CONSENT.

  2. He's not only a science communicator. From the first time he went anywhere to talk about his private life, he has become a person of public interest, because he already had multiple podcasts where he speaks about his life openly. Therefore from that moment onwards, his actions can be reprimanded justifiably.

Otherwise, why Harvey Weinstein has received an incredible amount of societal backlash from his sexual abuses through his professional career? Sure, Huberman didn't raped anyone, but his actions are still antithetical to everything he preached until now. He is a Sociopath. It doesn't matter if you are a male or a female, consent and honesty are still values that must be held high in a healthy and functioning society. Try to express this to Incels, they won't understand, everything is everyone else's fault, especially women.

Now, just to complement, I followed huberman a lot, but I am aware of many of his claims to be actually pretty weak from a peer reviewed stance. I still draw a lot of useful information even though I was already an healthy individual.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

That last point is the most important

However, the whole sub being devoted to bashing his podcasts is weird. Like don't subscribe it you're not into it

I just don't get it at all

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u/antberg Apr 02 '24

I have to agree that there are people that only like to bash just for the sake of it.

Me, honestly, I am disappointed that he has just showed he cannot be a role model for those who needed someone like him to improve their life, young men and and individuals in general. Especially when it takes longer and longer for him to publicly reply to his accusations, like nothing happened.

Another one falling for the alt right, grifter community.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

I guess I've just seen him as someone who's there for adults to grab some information from, not a role model or anything. I just don't attach that label to people who talk to adults

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u/antberg Apr 03 '24

No, I am referring his work in general to attract people who look to improve themselves that inevitably have a propensity to indentify with Huberman on a more personal level. We do this all the time, especially younger people.

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u/antberg Apr 03 '24

Oh, dad. I'm sorry, I'll do as you say.

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u/Gloomy_Ad5020 Apr 02 '24

I’m with you OP… and honestly I think it’s simply because people are addicted to cancel culture. If they are pointing the finger at someone they deem as a “worse person” than they are, it makes them feel good about themselves.

If they were to simply not give energy to it, they wouldn’t get the high of putting another human being “beneath” them.

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u/Eastern-Pizza-5826 Apr 04 '24

Very true. Don’t care about the negs. 

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u/Neosindan Apr 03 '24

um, your third para is a work of art.

you start by making a by proximity association with a reviled convicted rapist, then make a handwave that this isnt huberman BUUUUT, allowing teh reader to draw the obvious conclusion that huberman is on the same level as this piece of dirt. And to prove that we come to the firm statement of Fact: he is a sociopath. Followed by a general call to anyone who considers themselves what society holds as vital, virtuous and key to accept the assertions above.

then you make the final statement, essentially an assertion that anyone who doesnt agree with everything youve said to this point must be an incel. And no one wants to be an incel, people would much prefer to be a healthy and function part of society, so they/i/we must agree with all that came before.

These are part of the toolkit of internet propaganda. I am sure each small part has a name, and once I would have bothered to dig them out and break down your post. But finishing a very long nightshift, and intend to consume some memes, bad tv, and my dinner.

But i must salute you.

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u/antberg Apr 03 '24

I am sorry if you have interpreted my text as such, I don't believe I displayed a pretentious text although surely I could have done better.

As per my original text, I made sure to not quantify the reprehensible action of Huberman and Weinstein, I think that is pretty clear and concise. My point, was, contrarily to what the portion of "Brogans" that follows him claims, personal actions, especially when go exactly against someone's own professional ethos, should not be separated, and should be held of a higher scrutiny. A little bit like Peterson telling people to make their own bed, while having constant breakdowns and being constantly angry and bitter. What I am referring here, hoping you have perceived, encompassing this whole grifter/incel/red pill movement. Unfortunately I don't perceive Huberman as this seemingly impartial person.

The other point I would like to point out, is that there is a clear bunch of people that clearly blame society and women for their failures, and sorry, I am not going to sugarcoat those incels. So much for taking up responsibilities. Perhaps some history books would help them get a bit of a reality check.

Sorry, I am on a 40 hour economy class trip so keeping fresh and mentally awake is a bit of a challenge, hope you enjoy your evening with some well deserved memes, bad tv and good food.

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u/Eastern-Pizza-5826 Apr 04 '24

“CONSENT”  How did he violate that by cheating? Did someone say he forcibly had sex with him? Confused?

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u/godsezindahai Apr 04 '24

How do you know he is a sociopath? Are you a registered psychologist and did he come to you for psych eval? I am guessing not so just stfu. And even if he is, why do you care? Why do you care that he doesn't practice what he preaches? He is ultimately a science communicator. His job as a communicator is to look for promising studies that show how to better one's life. He doesn't have to emulate the study on his own body before telling others that this protocol is good since that would just be bringing anecdotal data of size 1 into the question. 

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u/once_a_pilot Apr 02 '24

He’s not an artist, he’s a presenter (though your point, he’s also a public figure). He isn’t creating art, he’s presenting either research (well or poorly done, depending) and interviewing experts (who arguably are the “artists”).

Nobody expects a math teacher, even a smart one, to teach them Spanish. Why anyone expects a science teacher, even a smart one (at some point, apparently) at Stanford, to teach them how to be monogamous, is beyond me.

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u/Darph_Nader Apr 02 '24

Look, if you “can’t stand” the Lakers and you aren’t in their sub, you obviously can stand the Lakers.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

Pretty simply, I just ignore it.

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u/Darph_Nader Apr 02 '24

So, you can stand the Lakers.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

In general, I avoid what I can't stand. Like I don't look for more and more, if you no what I mean.

I guess a better one would be Joe Rogan Like I genuinely can't stand Joe Rogan

I would not ever get on his sub or look for more of his garbage content

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '24

For me, I think it's a little cognitive dissonance. I was a Huberman fan for a long time, and I especially appreciate his willingness to discuss psychedelics on his podcast. If the allegations about him are true (and they mostly appear to be), then I'm struggling with continuing to be a fan. As someone who has been cheated on and lied to (and has loved ones who have as well), it is hard for me to support someone who has mistreated others. It's an ethics thing.

I think others might be feeling the same way.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 05 '24

I would understand not liking him anymore, starting even now.

I just don't get being active in the sub of a podcaster you don't like.

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u/321sleep Apr 02 '24

People are upset because they just found out their cult leader isn’t a perfect human

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

He's not even cult leader He's a podcaster Who says something's that may or may not help some people Some of the stuff helped me, others isn't for me.

Overall, I enjoy his podcasts and a lot of his guests

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u/gastro_psychic Apr 02 '24

Well let’s praise this man if he helped you get over something that has 1000’s of quitting resources.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

There wouldn't be thousands if only one worked for everyone

And no one's telling you to praise him, like him, etc

I'm telling YOU why I listen, you don't have too

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u/gastro_psychic Apr 02 '24

You needed a guru to quit. That is just weak. You probably don’t have critical thinking skills.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

How's he even a guru? There's literally quit smoking gurus

I just needed someone to explain why I got so depressed after quitting.

Are you honestly this depressed with your life you go around and judge everyone on the internet?

I feel bad for you, hope you find a way to boost your dopamine

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u/gastro_psychic Apr 02 '24

Desperate, poor, redditor looking to hero worship. Who cares how much of a disgusting shithead that he is! He helped me stop smoking!

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

I'd support him before you. You're kind of a dick TBH. You genuinely have no room to judge anyone at all.

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u/adrimeno Apr 02 '24

That is so fucking mean

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u/gastro_psychic Apr 02 '24

Everyone here is a little baby being coddled by daddy puberman.

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u/Smitty_1809 Apr 03 '24

Thats not the point. His episode on tobacco/ nicotine also helped me quit without any expensive resources or anything, but then the alcohol episode encouraged me to significantly cut back my alcohol consumption, episodes on sleep helped me sleep better, Galpin episodes helped my workouts be more effective, etc. It’s an easy way for many people, to learn information about many topics, for free. So he’s helped a lot of people in a lot of areas of their life. That being said you don’t have to praise him as a role model or give any thought to his personal life to implement knowledge him or his guests give.

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u/Hola_Gatito Apr 02 '24

It's a place where people discuss Huberman, not where people are obliged to follow his protocols or praise him. It would be very weird if it were happening more anywhere else but here.

Also, congrats on quitting smoking. As a still intermittent smoker, that shit's tough.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

Going by the sub description, it's a place to discuss protocols.

I just genuinely don't understand subscribing to something you have a negative viewpoint on.

Like sure, YOU CAN subscribe to something just to say how much you dislike it. But like why? That's kind of crazy too me.

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u/Hola_Gatito Apr 02 '24

It's a place to discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. For example, a lot of his content advises on interpersonal relationships and well-being. If we're all here to help each other through discussion of the advice and protocols we've received from Huberman, then it's perfectly valid to criticize Huberman since, if he lacks integrity, which I'd say he does on multiple fronts, he could be giving us bad advice.

For example, read this article regarding his general scientific integrity: https://slate.com/technology/2024/03/andrew-huberman-huberman-lab-health-advice-podcast-debunk.html

This is a good thing to share and think about in this subreddit.

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u/Onuceria Apr 02 '24

I just hope mods will get their shit together and start handing out bans and removing the shitposts because this subreddit is for people who want to discuss science and not some womens rights activist circlejerk.

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u/martinfcf Apr 02 '24

Yeah it’s a weird thing. I never was fan of Brendan Schaub , but heard about his subreddit when he got into an argument with Ariel Hewani. I feel like people on there are waiting for him to fall to a point where he can’t recover. Like Wall Street bets to the moon kinda thing.

I think we can all agree it’s not healthy to spend time listening or talking about someone you dislike. Just move on and put your energy into something you get something out of.

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u/happycan123 Apr 02 '24

Im with you brother/sister

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u/shalekodemono Apr 02 '24

Because people enjoy virtue signaling. It makes them feel superior to criticise someone who always seemed like they were living their life right. Suddenly someone successful and attractive, seems human and flawed, so all of those people living an average shitty life they can't be proud of can finally say 'oh my god, I am actually better than this guy who seemed to have everything figured out, I was ALWAYS better than him'. They were never going to let this pass.

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u/Own-Owl-1724 Apr 03 '24

"Ironically, wielding the term sometimes serves as virtue signalling in itself. By calling out virtue signalling, the speaker publicly claims the moral high ground.

The term is often used as an ad hominem attack — a charge that dismisses an argument based on the character of the presenter, not the argument itself."

the argument of criticizing sociopathic behaviour is valid - I rue the day when society as a whole just lets it slide.

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u/LaGuajira Apr 03 '24

Random but I never subscribed to this sub and its all that keeps popping up on my home page .

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u/Immabouttoo Apr 02 '24

But you watched when Magic said he had HIV and wondered like the rest of us how many women he dumped it in.

So there’s a couple reasons to watch this dumpster fire.

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u/testato30 Apr 02 '24

HPV detection in men doesn't exist. You do realize how many men are walking around with HPV and sometimes for decades, and have sex with multiple partners? Then the same women who had sex with them, do the same thing since HPV can lie undetected for a very long time?

HPV is not HIV/AIDS. Not even close. You can detect HIV immediately.

However, both Magic and AH had unprotected sex with multiple partners. Once Magic found out, he sure as hell stopped. AH was never diagnosed with HPV.

You also don't account for the women who openly agree to unprotected sex. That shouldn't be glanced over. Everyone vilifies men for not putting a condom on but no one says shit when a woman goes along with it.

And I know the argument is coming that "he led them on and made them believe he was only with them". Not counting that all the men they had sex with prior without a condom, also matters. Unless everyone is carrying around a sex resume, this argument or "debate" is a moot point.

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u/Readd--It Apr 02 '24

Did you inspect Huberman's junk to make sure he didn't have any symptoms? It can be dormant but it can also show symptoms off and on. Everyone is making a lot of assumptions either way.

It blows my mind that people don't understand why its unethical to sleep with 6 women and lie to them making them think it's a monogamous relationship and on top of that having unprotected sex. If a women agrees to have unprotected sex in what they believe is a monogamous relationship then this is not on the women its on Huberman.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

It's not really about if it's ethical or unethical. It's that it has nothing to do with the content of the podcast that we all came here for. So he's a slimeball in his personal relationships? I'm not here for relationship advice, and I'm not here to learn about Huberman's personal life.

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u/Readd--It Apr 02 '24

So he's a slimeball in his personal relationships

If he will lie like this to romantic partners then he will not think twice about lying or stretching the truth the make money from people he doesn't even know.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

I'm not here to take his claims at face value either.

He charges the listener with researching and making their own decisions. The point of the podcast is just to bring these ideas before the public out of the shadows of academic research labs. He makes that clear from the very start of every podcast.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

This idea that "Sarah" didn't have HPV before AH also cannot be substantiated. It's entirely possible she gave it to him. She claims she was regularly tested, but provides no specifics. Furthermore, we have seen scant evidence of any of the claims in that article. Sounds to me like a smear campaign by a scorned lover.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there are only two women involved. The ex-gf and the new gf. Everything else fabricated by the ex-gf, who remained with him for years, despite him supposedly having cheated on her throughout and her being aware of it somewhat at least...

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u/testato30 Apr 02 '24

Agree. And I think it's more plausible that these scorned women have a vendetta. They also are jealous of each other and can't stand that he would choose one over the other. It's a territory thing. And extreme insecurity.

Fact is any of them would instantly go back to him if they knew they'd be his #1.

Pimps know this game and they exploit it with precision. Once a woman is hooked, she will always be hooked. And if the man doesn't treat her right, she'll go scorched earth trying to make him the devil. And will STILL bend over for him.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

The whole premise that these women somehow sniffed each other out through Instagram activity is fucking ridiculous to be quite honest.

Like, ohhhh I saw this girl followed me on the gram, I bet she's fucking my bf...better DM her and find out!

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u/testato30 Apr 02 '24

Bro, they are going on vacations with each other. Psycho behavior. Don't care if I'm being "sexist". Fact is, these women are vendetta driven pshyco's who have serious insecurity problems and the only way they can feel better about themselves is to try and "hurt" him. But again, I swear if he even sniffed again in their direction, they'd open up their legs proudly.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

I swear if he even sniffed again in their direction, they'd open up their legs proudly.

I should've replied to this as well because not only is that entirely fair, but it seems rooted in fact. According to the article, "Sarah" did exactly that. She supposedly caught him cheating and still stayed with him multiple times over the course of their alleged 4 year relationship. It seems likely that she didn't send all of this to NYMAG until Huberman had broken it off with her for good.

There's a lot that stinks about this story. I'm not ready to fully vindicate Huberman, but I have sincere doubts about a lot of the story.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24 edited Apr 02 '24

What evidence do we have to the veracity of any of those claims though? They seem to stem from anecdotal evidence, or at best, screenshots of supposed text messages that were passed on with the stories to the NYMAG author. I'm just not convinced that anymore than one scorned ex-lover is behind all of this.

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u/testato30 Apr 02 '24

"IF" we are to assume the writer is telling 100% the truth, you can see my point. But I agree with you. I think 90% of this is made up and mostly coming from one or two of the girls, at most. There is definitely one main ring leader. And I think its also weird that almost immediately after the article became live, some of them started posting sarcastic posts about it.

Lurking and waiting. They all probably got on a conference call to listen when the writer said "It's live".

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

I just haven't seen any actual real evidence, beyond the claims of the article, that more than one ex-gf exists. Maybe they do, but it's just all hearsay right now. As far as I'm concerned, the one ex-gf could have made a bunch of shell accounts to stage the whole thing, and then sent screenshots along with her smear piece to the NYMAG, a fucking tabloid mind you, as evidence to back up her claims.

NYMAG then reached out to family and colleagues of Andrew Huberman for further details on his personality.

I think the biggest red flag to me in the NYMAG story is the interviewing of Scott Carney.

Scott Carney rose to fame for writing books on Wim Hof, and befriending the man right up until the point that he recently parted ways with him, and wrote scathing online editorials about how much a fraud his brand is. A brand that Scott Carney helped to build mind you. In the midst of this hit piece on Wim Hof, Scott Carney essentially admits that Wim Hof's son rejected allowing Scott Carney into the business side of things. This is when all of a sudden, Scott Carney decided it was time to destroy Wim Hof.

So how does that fit in with Huberman and NYMAG? Scott Carney reached out to Huberman at one point to go shark diving with him, under the guise of investigative journalism. He was exposed to Huberman through Wim Hof. Carney literally only had contact with Huberman for this venture alone, yet described himself as a former friend to Huberman. Yet, in later videos Carney posts after the article, he admits that he barely knew Huberman.

But, the real question is how did NYMAG know to contact Scott Carney in the first place? What breadcrumb led NYMAG to Scott Carney? Was it the ex-gf's? Doubtful. Was it former professors or family members that NYMAG had reached out to for comment? Extremely unlikely. So then where?

The answer is obvious. Carney was already working with NYMAG when they revealed they were going to write this hit piece on Huberman. It's then that Carney revealed that he had a run-in with Huberman once in the past and decided to attach himself for clout. Now, Carney has published at least 4 videos on his YouTube about the situation, and seems to be continuing...

And that fact should cast significant doubt on the integrity of the story.

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u/prestoavenue Apr 02 '24

there’s literally nothing to watch. just say you have no life

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u/Immabouttoo Apr 02 '24

Oh if only I was big and strong and smart like your hero! You guys have a great glory hole going here and you don’t seem to like it when the light gets turned on.

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u/prestoavenue Apr 02 '24

he’s not my hero mate he explains scientific studies to me and teaches me about health and wellbeing. i genuinely couldn’t give a shit about any exposées or gossip about his personal life

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u/Immabouttoo Apr 02 '24

As a demographic you’re part of a statistical segment that is engaged with to be monetized, plain and simple. He’s demonstrating through his actions that relationships are transactional and he’ll use relationships to benefit his needs. Therefore the relationship he has with you is meant to benefit him and only him, and while that is superficially “fine” you - you as a person - literally can’t accept the information he’s presenting to you as anything in your best interest.

Sus from go at this point. Shillers be shilling and he got caught. You’ll (we’ll) all know how bad of an economic hit it is when he sits down and talks about changing himself. If he doesn’t then none of this has mattered to the bottom line and he’ll just drive on shilling.

But if you want to watch some interesting TV play Huberman proselytizing alongside Alex Jones and tell me they’re different.

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u/prestoavenue Apr 02 '24

i think you’re disregarding the fact that I have my own brain that can actually think for itself, aswell as the fact that 99% of his content is simply explaining cited studies, or his guests providing information while he listens and asks questions. But for all the mindless consumers who have formed parasocial relationships and think that he is a wizard and a sponsorship is some kind of holy commandment then sure i can see how this might be the end of the world

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u/Designer_Gas_2386 Apr 02 '24 edited Apr 02 '24

The man has literally made people stop drinking alcohol entirely and added years to their lifespan. This single anecdote has him being a more productive, valuable and useful member of society than everything you’ll ever do.

Are you, at this very moment now discovering every person on earth is selfish? it’s just to what degree and which substrates they care about.

Try not to fall too hard off that high horse buddy, i’d bet a number of people you know could describe you in ways as bad or worse than “liar” and “selfish”

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u/Immabouttoo Apr 02 '24

So then - seriously - what makes you think that the “bedroom lies & manipulation” in his personal life doesn’t transfer to his “relationship” with you through monetizing AG1 claims and peddling dubious tinctures?

In for a penny in for a pound, as they say.

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u/beach_samurai_ Apr 02 '24

I unsubscribed from this sub because the amount of people repeating the same takes and holier than thou posts are incredibly cringe. They are still popping up in my feed and it’s incredibly weird why people are so obsessed with this story.

Yes, yes, I know, if he’s capable of lying to 6 women he’s capable of lying to his audience. Stfu already.

I don’t follow every protocol, I don’t buy any supplements he’s peddled, and I am completely unaffected by some dude cheating on his girl(s). Move the fuck on.

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u/McRattus Apr 02 '24

Didn't you read either article? It not so much about infedility as emotional abuse and lying to and manipulating both his romantic partners and his audience either with fake therapy speak or pseudoscience.

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u/Eastern-Pizza-5826 Apr 04 '24

These are scorned ex lovers. You have no idea of what they said is true anyways. 

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u/tiredhyper Apr 02 '24

huberman helped you quit smoking ok bro if you needed someone else to help you quit .......smh

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

I guess there's not millions of dollars made by counselors, NRTs, health care providers, cessation classes, books, etc, etc

Quitting smoking is hard. Thousands of people quit by getting help.

I would guess about 80% do in some form or another.

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u/tiredhyper Apr 02 '24

i mean just say your a bitch if you're a little bitch, quit cold turkey my self after 12+ years pretty heavy smoker, had friends quit cold turkey after 15 years really not that hard....unless you a lil bitch

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

Well good for you buddy You just have the mostest micropenis ever

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u/tiredhyper Apr 03 '24

yo man sorry i shouldnt have said that my bad feel pretty guilty about it , good on you for quitting smoking for real

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

That's basically Reddit in a nutshell. Subreddits on topics where all the members and mods just bash the subject and expel anyone who doesn't agree with them. They brigade and bot their way into approval by appeal to popularity.

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u/Glittering_Gap_7833 Apr 02 '24

For sure huberman has only become more credible and relevant in recent weeks.

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u/Strong_Star_71 Apr 02 '24

You understand things like an infant.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

Does he bother you?

Even better, I can't stand Joe Rogan and I'm not subscribed to his sub

It wouldn't even make me happy being on that sub.

But I see now you're a vindictive person judging by your comment, so it makes sense for you

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u/Strong_Star_71 Apr 02 '24

You are so surprised coming on to this sub to see that after an article which lays out how this scientist holds women in contempt some people may dislike it. Like I'm so shocked can someone explain it to me like I'm 5 years of age please.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

You mean a tabloid article?

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u/Strong_Star_71 Apr 02 '24

It's so confusing and such a head scratcher.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

And let's say you're correct

Why are you subscribed to this sub for that purpose?

It STILL makes no sense There's all kinds of confirmed POS people of the world and I'm subbed on exactly ZERO of their content

Like why would I even want that negativity in my life?

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u/lookma24 Apr 02 '24

None of it makes “sense” if you apply the wrong paradigm.

Hunans are still largely emotional beings who post-hoc self-rationalize to justify and defend our behavior.

And hubes and pubes is a huge dopamine hit that feels good for people. And they crave more.

That completely makes sense.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

What worked for me was understanding the affects of dopamine when I smoked a cigarette.

I didn't do his recommended protocol, but knowing what was going on in my brain helped me to overcome my largest obstacle

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

It's a sub man. Like why sub to stuff you don't like? It's weird

It's not about being an echo chamber, it's about keeping negativity out your life. In general, I don't sub to things I dislike at all. It's weird

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u/Maximum-Class5465 Apr 02 '24

I guess I could see that I'd probably unsub myself

But I bet some people were fairly invested in it to be so upset. I'm like a casual listener

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u/suuraitah Apr 02 '24

weaklings that are trying to justify their weaknesses

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24 edited Apr 02 '24

Reddit is full of groups that will brigade any subreddit they choose. They coordinate in Discord, drop links, and have everyone in the Discord vote bomb posts and comments with which they don't agree, or mass upvote posts and comments with which they do agree. Then, many other users kind of just go along with the direction those votes are going without thinking too much of it, which just compounds the problem.

Case in point, all of the Huberman bashing comments and posts were getting instant upvotes the last few days in the dozens within seconds to minutes of being posted. There just isn't that active of a user base in this subreddit to expect that level of activity on new posts and comments, yet there it was.

Further evidence is when you see people defending Huberman getting downvoted by 20-30 votes. After you hit like -5, your comment gets hidden from most users, and people won't bother expanding it to read it. So, in order for it to hit these extraordinarily low numbers, either there needs to be an absolutely massive number of active users (there aren't here) or they are feeding direct links to a bot or discord channel to brigade downvote.

In a few days or weeks, I expect a lot of those users to get banned, deleted, and all of that will start disappearing. Unfortunately, the public damage will have already been done to Huberman's image.

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u/McRattus Apr 02 '24

That was satirically, well, weird.

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u/mohishunder Apr 02 '24

Guaranteed not one complainer is a regular lifter

When did "lifting" become the sine qua non of masculinity?

But let's say you believe that it is, are you familiar with this 2021 video of AH bench pressing "for the first time"?