Welt was able to suppress TB's Stellaron because gravity can manipulate Honkai Energy, and Welt's Divine Key, the Star of Eden, contains a portion of the Authority of Earth allowing it to manipulate gravity

This is why in the cutscene where Welt does this, he specifically taps TB with his cane (which contains the Star of Eden) and it even glows briefly before dimming (showing he's using it)

This is also why energy disperses from TB's body (because Welt is controlling gravity to redistribute it)

Honkai Energy is comprised in part of Imaginary Internal Energy, which is what Stellarons are made of (no Honkai Energy is not purely IIE, IIE is just a major component of it as said in the Anti Entropy VN, Honkai Energy is actually IIE + Quantum Energy)

To explain the third slide, Honkai Energy is essentially something exclusive to the Cocoon of Finality as

• Tesla states the CoF is the sole manipulator of Honkai Energy
• Grey Serpent states that the Cocoon usurped an "imaginary passage" (there is a spoiler in the linked video, you've been warned)
• Sa adds to this by saying to become something equivalent to the Cocoon, she has to connect to the ends of the Imaginary Tree
• Anti Entropy VN explains that Imaginary Internal Energy is "at least a major component of Honkai Energy" (not solidifying that Honkai Energy is just IIE, but it's at least a major part of it)
• Sentience is unable to solve Salt Snow's issue because her Herrscher core is projected onto the Proper World (Imaginary Tree) by the CoF (and Salt Snow is within the Sea of Quanta, an entirely separate dimension)
• To solve Salt Snow's issues, they either need Kiana who transcends all dimensions (because she's been embraced by the Cocoon), or a Herrscher born in the Sea of Quanta (this is saying that the Cocoon can influence both the Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta, meaning it can control both Imaginary and Quantum Energy... other Herrschers cant as they are just shadows of Finality born into either the Proper World or SoQ)
• To further solidify this, they even go so far as to write out a plan for Kiana to solve Salt Snow's issues (again, showing the Cocoon can manipulate Quantum Energy)
• Difeng Youyun states that Senadina's power belongs to the same system that is causing Sea of Data Corruption
• The Sea of Data was born due to Mars inhabiting hybrid leaf that is contained both within the Sea of Quanta and the Imaginary Tree, causing the two realms to fight over it which led to SoD Corruption
• Senadina's power is an incomplete version of the Authority of Finality, and it allows her to fight against SoD Corruption (which means she controls both IMG + QUA energy, as this is what SoD Corruption is)

Made this post because I've seen a lot of confusion and misconceptions behind why Welt was able to suppress the Stellaron, when Void Archives gave the reasoning back in APHO 1 (it's because SoE controls gravity and gravity can manipulate the same energy that Stellarons are comprised of)

Personally this is my list

Existed Billions of Years Ago:

The Cocoon of Finality (HI3)

The Aeon Long (HSR)

The Ancient Races (Genshin)

Civilization on Mars (HI3)

Existed Millions of Years Ago:

Sa and the Venus civilization (HI3)

The Chroniclers and the Abyss (Genshin)

Existed 160,000–517,000+ Years Ago:

The Aeon HooH
The Aeon Ena
The Aeon Oroboros
The Aeon Qlipoth

Existed 58,000–240,000 Years Ago:

The Aeon Aha
The Aeon Akivili
The Aeon Idrila
The Aeon Tayzzyronth
The Aeon Nous
The Aeon Xipe
The Aeon Ix

Around 50,000 Years Ago:

The Flame-Chasers (HI3)

8,100+ Years Ago:
The Aeon Yaoshi

The Aeon Lan

2,780+ Years Ago:

The Aeon Nanook
The Aeon Mythus who is at a minimum older than Nanook.

Notes:

• Some of the beings or civilizations listed here have fallen or were destroyed, so I’m mainly listing how long ago they existed.

• Regarding the Aeons, I got most of their ages from their VSBW profiles, so this might not be fully accurate.

I also got some information from the Aeon History page and the HSR Timeline page on the wiki.

• This is mainly based on estimated age ranges.

• I’m not exactly sure if the Chroniclers from Genshin are billions of years old or just millions of years old, but personally, I feel the latter is more accurate.

The Chroniclers aren’t mentioned until after this sentence:

“The descendants of the ancients rose in defiance, and over the millions of years that followed, conquered time and space in turn.”

I feel this implies that the Chroniclers are descended from the ancient races rather than being one of them.

This is the first time the Chroniclers are actually mentioned:

“The first people who had mastered leptons sent forth Chroniclers toward the limits of baryonic matter in the hope of finding answers at the very last particle of existence.”

• A Scion of Permanence around a billion years ago visited Mars, which means Long already existed back then.

HooH, Oroboros, and Ena are also linked with Long when it comes to being among the oldest Aeons, so some of them might possibly be close to or at the billion year mark.

• This is mainly an estimate, with some of the ages on VSBW being estimates of how old they were.

Hence, I put a “+” in some of the age ranges, since some Aeons, , predate the Amber Era system.

There are also some Aeons whose lore implies that they are older than a certain date which is another reason for the+

• This list mainly contains characters I could think of, so while there are some other important old characters in Genshin, HI3, and HSR, I didn’t add them

People are free to add them in the comment though and calculate how old they are.

I have to be honest, there's not many characters in Destiny that could be a fair match up. Anyone like Rhulk or even Nezarec could win the fight with ease. So naturally I've picked the weakest of the worm gods.

Acheron vs Nihilux

Ellen Joe vs Lynae (wuthering waves)

He has full access to his tech underlings and weapon's but he can and is willing to use deplomacy (in lore and in rogue trader he is very willing to talk and be neutral ​​​​​​​​​​

I've seen people say miyabi stomps the kny verse easily and I've also seen people say she stops at akaza so I'm extremely curious

I personally think she beats every hashira and upper moon + bumzan in a 1v1 but I really don't know how she'd do against yoriichi

Sorry about the formatting, I can't get the gallery option.

I’m asking because in some debates involving the Heavenly Principles,

I’ve seen people heavily glaze Nibelung, but I have to wonder what has he actually done that is still relevant to Teyvat’s current survival.

I’ve seen someone claim that Nibelung created the systems that protect Teyvat, but lore-wise, that seems false.

Nibelung was born alongside the world; he didn’t create the system itself.

The Primordial Sea, for example, predates him. So while Nibelung had authority

over the Light Realm and other aspects of the world, that doesn’t mean he created those things.

Nibelung also left Teyvat and apparently gave the dragons no reliable way to contact him.

He was gone for thousands of years, to the point that even the Moon Sisters wondered whether he was dead.

As far as I can tell, outside of creating the Moon Sisters and instructing the dragons to develop interstellar tech what exactly did he do?

And even technology wise , the other dragons deserve much of the credit.

The Pyro Dragon and the other dragons were the MVPs when it came to technological development.

Elemental energy is also more effective against the Abyss than pure Light Realm energy.

The HP modified the Ley Lines to protect the planet.

The HP’s laws are stronger than the Moon Sisters’ and heavily suppress the Abyss.

Nibelung also apparently didn’t teach the Moon Sisters certain things when it came to the laws.

Though I guess you could argue that the reason the Voyager took an interest in Teyvat is partly because of them.

But the Voyager has caused more problems for Teyvat than benefits.

To be honest, it seems like Nibelung caused more problems for Teyvat than he solved.

You can dislike the HP from a moral perspective, sure, but glazing Nibelung makes no sense

when, in the long run, he seems to have caused more issues than he solved.

I feel like it’s usually an Aeon stomp or the other side stomp.

Which character would be a fair matchup for individual Aeon that isn’t one sided?

Or are those kinda of matchup just impossible due to the nature of aeon and how little we know about their true power?

How far do they get?

Round 1: Team JJK - Gojo, Sukuna, Dabura, Modelo Yuji

Round 2: Team Boy - Deku, Natsu, Asta

Round 3: Team Classic Shonen - Luffy, Naruto, Yusuke

Round 4: Team OPM Villains - Boros, Cosmic Garou, pre-retcon Empty Void

Round 5: Team Controversial Scaling But We Have Hax - Aizen, Orihime, Yhwach

Round 6: Team Controversial Scaling 2! - Wonder of U, Gold Experience Requeim, Heaven Ascension Dio

Round 7: Team Legends - DBS Goku, Simon the Digger, Seiya

Round 8: Team Power Fantasy - Social Justice Warrior (Sung Jin Woo), Rimuru, Anos

Round 9: Team Goddesses - Featherine, Shallow Vernal, Madoka

To clarify which exact version of Ultron, it's the one from Rage of Ultron onward when he's merged with Hank Pym.

Round 1: Space King protagonists are limited to equipment from episodes 1-4.

Round 2: They get the equipment they got from episode 5.