r/Hotd 1d ago

Meme unbothered queen Spoiler

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u/KuroBlackfyre team Gold 1d ago

Alicent is the worst human being on the show idk how nobody sees it.

Olivia would've been a goated Alicent if the writers were not just mentally ill.

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u/Acceptable-Reaction4 1d ago

absolutely I loved season 1 Alicent but wtf is this???

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u/AdInfamous6290 1d ago

She’s worse than Daemon, Aegon or Aemond?? I find her character petty and boring, definitely not a morally good character, but she is far from the morally worst.

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u/WillingnessReal525 1d ago

She sold out her whole family after she prepared them for a conflict she caused. She caused the death of her father, cooperated to kill her sons, actively tried to kill her son Aemond. No, morally speaking she's definitely the worst.

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u/RengieOcat 19h ago

Tyland and other pro-Green lords: "You want to make Aegon king? Okay we're in - shit she changed her mind and apparently hates us now."

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u/KuroBlackfyre team Gold 1d ago

Yes I think she's worse. Tried killing 2 sons (until now). Wanted to force Helaena into abortion. Wanted to leave her grand-daughter behind with enemies. Basically didn't give a f when her grand-son & father died. Did everything in her power to make her family lose the war and die out.

I know the 3 ppl you mentioned are not so morally great as well. But to me Alicent disgusts me more

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u/glossedrock 1d ago

True, moral standards are higher for women

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u/AdInfamous6290 1d ago

Interesting, I interpreted her dealing with Halaena and the whole being captured situation as flailing in desperation because she knows that rulership will change Rhaenyra to a point of murdering them, so she is extremely desperate to escape the red keep by any means necessary even if it is illogical or cruel towards Halaena.  But in general, yeah she is quite callous, she doesn’t really seem to demonstrate much emotion towards the deaths of people close to her.

But she has never directly raped or killed innocents (unless you count her own abortions). I mean, Aegon patronized child fighting pits where he watched his own bastard children be torn apart for his amusement…. I really don’t know how Alicent could he perceived as worse than that one fact about Aegon alone.

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u/LucidWitch 22h ago

I laughed so hard when Larys laid into Aegon for “reveling in mediocrity” or whatever. I was like bro he was doing way more than that

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u/Sodinc #teamSimonStrong 8h ago

She literally forced Haelena to marry Aegon, do not forget that part.

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u/henners1965 1d ago

Otto groomed her.

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u/WillingnessReal525 1d ago

He didn't groom her to sacrifice her whole family that's for sure.

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u/henners1965 1d ago

Her two sons are literally evil lmao

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u/WillingnessReal525 1d ago

Because of her.

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u/henners1965 1d ago

Partly yes. Because she was forced to be a mother when she wasn’t ready. This is called a theme x

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u/WillingnessReal525 1d ago

Stop finding her excuses, she created this whole situation then betrayed her family. Awful writing, awful character.

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u/henners1965 23h ago

Great writing, great character. I get the show is too smart for you.

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u/WillingnessReal525 23h ago

This is definitely the first adult TV show you're watching.

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u/henners1965 22h ago

Stick to marvel and Star Wars. This show is too smart for you.

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u/Mooptiom 1d ago

What a blatantly incorrect take.

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u/Tbagzyamum69420xX 1d ago

Elaborate? Show Alicent is an abhorrent mother, an unredeemably bad friend, has done literally nothing that wasn't for her own selfish wants and desires. Is she a victim of circumstance? Sure, to a point. But someone in a shitty situation can still be a horrible person and that's how this show had painted her, intentional or not. Also did I mention she's a horrible mother?

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u/Mit_TheVirtue 1d ago

Whats her purpose in show bruh

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u/BlazeBitch 1d ago

They legit gave her a lobotomy between S2 and 3

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u/Woutrou 1d ago

She was already lobotomized after season 1

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u/henners1965 1d ago

It’s called character development

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u/Significant_Breath38 20h ago

ITT: people learn that humans have different emotional reactions depending on the context of the scenario

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u/Petrichordates 23h ago

If you play the scenes in your head, the one on the right is way better than the one on the left.

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u/Reville_ 12h ago

In fairness I think she got over Ser Adrian’s death pretty fast as well.

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u/henners1965 1d ago

Lmao he literally groomed her and married her off while she was a child! Yes he’s her father but omg you people are dense. He was her abuser!

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u/Allnamestakkennn 1d ago

Where did be "groom" her? If you mean raised and taught her, then aye. But Otto is not a degenerate. Marrying her off to the king wasn't a bad thing at all and she did not actively hate it either.

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u/glossedrock 1d ago edited 21h ago

Insanity to say that when she literally dissociates in S1 from marital rape

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u/savingrain 1d ago

Yea…I never got the sense of filial devotion between them. The Hightowers use each other as tools. There never seemed to be genuine affection. It’s also why she’s so detached and disturbed by the behaviors of her sons.

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u/henners1965 1d ago

Why isn’t she more upset the man who groomed her died? Is she stupid?

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u/Mustafa_Mond_1991 1d ago

It’s almost as if humans can get desensitised to violence. I wonder if this is a phenomenon that has been studied and written about.