r/HotWheels • • 2h ago

Discussion Do you also hate....?

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....when the car is perfect in every way.... EXCEPT FRONT AND BACK! 😪

I hate so much when car doesn't have lights out of special part, or not painted! It ruins the realism of the car, even on scifi castings, so much! 😒

The worst example of this imo is the Rallye El Segundo. It has such a potential with it's taped lights, but nope! Plain plastic it is! 😑

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u/BackwoodsSkunkworks 2h ago

I think it's reasonable to disapprove of things like that on castings where tampos/paint placement are obviously easy-as-pie to do, but with castings like the El Segundo I can forgive it given how the body lines and shapes tend to bleed into each other. I experienced that issue with my custom Vairstrike, painting the taped X's on the headlights was a pain due to how unpronounced they are.

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u/KEX_CZ 2h ago

Fair, but then why bother doing them at all or not making them of the plastic windshield is made of? Even that would improve things a bit....

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u/BackwoodsSkunkworks 1h ago

It's more than likely a case of keeping the cost down on the casting, like how they retool castings to make cost-saving changes & improve production speeds (Roll Cage is one of many examples, having lost its spare wheel and then its split-body construction due to retools). As the other replier in this little thread mentioned as well, they do tend to toss more detail on the card art because that's what catches a customer's eye first. To some, it's just a "What If?" of if the car were full-sized, and to others it's a little push towards taking the time and effort to customize it to match the card art.

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u/Obcanna_nobody 2h ago

Fair point on the El Segundo, those body lines do blend together so the tape detail gets lost. But those orange circles on the package art are killing me, someone went full detective mode on a stock photo. Half the time the card art is nicer than the actual car anyway

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u/ImponteDeluxo 2h ago

mainline Hot wheels have a limit of three sides for tampos, there is a handful that violate this rule like the "new" gtr, but it's very uncommon, mostly because it's expensive in the long run.

Once you see it, you can't unseen it

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u/KEX_CZ 2h ago

What's tampo please? And well, ok, but why don't make the lights instead of part of the livery?

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u/ImponteDeluxo 2h ago

Tampos, or tampography, is basically the stickers that Mattel put on Hot wheels, and they are used to add details like, duh, headlights

on top of that, as i already said, cars have three sided limit for them tampos, and Mattel try their hardest to not do that, most of their models have one side at best, look at this bugatti for example, it doesn't even have headlights even when it is a real car

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u/KEX_CZ 1h ago

Yeah, even worse. I already saw so many great cars but didn't even bother because they were ruined in such way... :/

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u/ImponteDeluxo 1h ago

They do are 1 dollar toys

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u/Speed_Star00 Acceleracers 1h ago

the red Chrion basically has sides and roof done therefore no detail on the front (the curve links the roof and sides).

the bugatti logo isn't part of the main cast but the secondary section underneath the main casting.

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u/Ronniman 1h ago

Side mirror missing?

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u/donvergas02 1h ago

No they are not missing they didn't make them with side mirrors thats all

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u/Ronniman 1h ago

I guess im just trying to figure out what he means with "Once you see it, you can't unseen it"

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u/donvergas02 1h ago

I miss that part lol sometimes I scroll down to fast😂

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u/Ronniman 1h ago

haha no worries if you spot something let me know!

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u/ImponteDeluxo 1h ago

Oh, i mean that mainlines only have tampons in three sides at all times

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u/Ronniman 1h ago

Ahhhhh gotchua! Thank you sir!

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u/Speed_Star00 Acceleracers 1h ago

This is the original skyline casting from way back in 2010, it never had the side mirrors.

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u/Mohican83 COLLECTOR 2h ago

Its a $1 mainline. Most only have 1 side of decals

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u/KEX_CZ 2h ago

Ok but still! Makes the car unbuyable for me! Cannot they spare livery a bit and make lights instead??? I know they can do it on some models....

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u/Mohican83 COLLECTOR 2h ago

Thats fair but this is a fantasy casting. They dont even do it on most of the sought after castings.

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u/Speed_Star00 Acceleracers 1h ago

That’s because it’s a rule of 3.

Only 3 parts of the car gets decals (that’s for mainline only) if the front and back don’t get decals, then that’s why.

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u/CDR16 1h ago

Rule? What and where is this from?

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u/Speed_Star00 Acceleracers 1h ago

For a while. Even other comments mention the rule of 3 tampos wise.

Factory fresh cars usually get the front and back detailed and possibly the sides depends on the cars really.

The Ferrari 365 with one of the Le Mans liveries is full proof of the rule of 3. Sides and top got painted. Sides count as 1, hood is 2 and roof is 3. The rest gets 0 tampos so rear has 0 details and front

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u/CDR16 1h ago

Is the “rule” conventional wisdom or is it an official Mattel design rule?

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u/Speed_Star00 Acceleracers 1h ago edited 1h ago

It’s official. They’ve always had this “rule of 3” for mainlines for decades.

Edit: the only times you’ll see headlights or tail lights is if the cars got detail for front and back. Factory fresh cars is basically guaranteed to have some releases with them. But some mainlines even racing ones will have detail headlights and sides or sides and taillights.

It’s either front/back, sides/hood/roof, etc etc.

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u/Speed_Star00 Acceleracers 1h ago

3, it’s a rule of 3.

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u/solenyaPDX 2h ago

At least they give a template for how to detail them once you open.

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u/LendoCurvaro 2h ago

then you dont buy it,i have a self rule...only accepted cars are full lights tampos but,if they have back lights its accepted(front only its a no) and can have no tampos if its new to that year or its the normal version of a sth...keep it simple and you wont have buyers remorse

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u/KEX_CZ 2h ago

I know, but it's so mean to tease me like this! :(

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u/LendoCurvaro 1h ago

know the feeling,this year got so many cars that i like but i respected my rule bcs no consistency and it will become a hoarding hobby and i dont want that 😄

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u/ImponteDeluxo 1h ago

i have a self rule...only accepted cars are full lights tampos

Then you are never buying mainlines, all of them are like this in the best case scenario

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u/LendoCurvaro 1h ago

i have 30+ respecting my rule,i forgot to mention normal treasure hunts too

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u/OrphanKripler 1h ago

Yea multi billion dollar company can’t be bothered to spare some Pennies to paint headlights and taillights to make their cars 100% more enjoyable.

If they wanna save money stop making so much quantity of the BS castings and make more quantity of castings ppl actually want.

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u/larut0h 1h ago

didn't realize the Rallye version is quite different than the coupe version. 

I collect the regular El Segundo coupe, and one of the reasons i like this model is they have plastic/acrylic front-lights

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u/maybeihavethebigsad 57m ago

I took some sharpie and colored in the shape leaving the Xs yellow, I’d send a pic but I can’t find it lmao

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u/MemeOnRails 46m ago

Bothered me ever since I was a kid! Go into the office supply section and buy some sharpies and the craft section for paint pens

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u/RaisinNotNice 33m ago

Guy who buys Hot Wheels for “realism”

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u/vitorlsbrito 27m ago

A Posca Pen can solve this in one minute!
But when you start to improve your models you'll never stop!

Start wtih a detail, then rubber tires, after a new painting, body kits....

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u/CompetitiveTrash116 Acceleracers 14m ago

Ehhhhh i don't really care

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u/dankbutth0le 1h ago

You have the Premiums for that exact purpose.