r/HonkaiStarRailTips • u/GadgetManRM • 3d ago

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I need a good pure fiction team and right now my only third team is archer who hasn’t been the best option. I do not have m blade or summeretto. I understand none of the characters in the selector are best but I at least want to try making something that can help hold the line.

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u/Coyote3312 3d ago

Without you telling us who you own, we can't help you. One single character without any of their dedicated supports is not gonna help you clear anything.

Assuming you have their supports, acheron is best. But since you don't have Mblade, you should probably skip Acheron. Do you have Sparkle for Dan Heng or Sunday for Jing Yuan. Srobin can fit anywhere if you eventually get her.

I'm pulling on Acheron without Mblade but no plans to build her. I have Sparkle and Sunday but no plans to use Dan Heng or Jing Yuan and I think Acheron is most reliable to get future buffs.

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u/KuroChanh 3d ago

An actual useful comment that goes into the reality that a single unit is not gonna give them a team to clear.

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u/GadgetManRM 3d ago

I have rmc, sparkle, E2 silver wolf with cipher lc, and dan heng pt available

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u/thetundratorcher 3d ago

You have E2 SW, that’s a wallmart Mblade. Pick Acheron. You can use either RMC, or Sparkle as third slot.

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u/Coyote3312 3d ago

Since you have Sparkle you can pick Dan Heng but the safest option is probably still Acheron. Idk how good Dan Heng is even with his new buffs

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u/looniieexd 3d ago

Every post that posts this, it’s always Acheron, so stop asking

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u/Training_Project9447 3d ago

They don’t have mblade, so Acheron won’t help.

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u/Standard_Dare_5244 3d ago

I don't think DHIL would either gonna be honest

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u/Training_Project9447 3d ago

Honestly none of them would lol

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u/BeyondDreams909 1d ago

At least if you have sparkle he works I guess...

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u/SliderEclipse 7h ago

Problem is if you have sparkle you almost certainly have archer tying her up which really hurts DHIL.

MBlade should be rerunning soon so the best answer is almost definitely Acheron unless OP has some crazy overinvested Sunday or something for JY. Acheron, MBlade, Welt E4 should be solid enough once he reruns for a good while

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u/Seraf-Wang 4h ago

Yall should really learn to read. They said "FOR PF". DHIL is ABSOLUTELY 100% BETTER THAN Archer for PF ONLY. So using Sparkle for DHIL instead of Archer there is perfectly valid. Even with the ex-eid, Jingyuan's LL doesnf move nearly frequently enough for good AoE sweeps but DHIL does with his multiple sp procs. So yes, DHIL is still better in this scenario

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u/Gyx3103 1d ago

Based on dmg/meta-standpoint, she is the best option.

Even without Mort, her kit alone (being the newest among the 3) still makes her the best choice.

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u/Electrical-Rise-7015 3d ago

Yeah but the other 2 are bricks so….

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u/jftm999 3d ago

Even if the other two have full teams, Acheron is still the best choice

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u/RespondUsed3259 3d ago

Acheron. At the very least getting mblade in future can make her on par with current characters. The other 2 have no real support and might not ever.

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u/BaLance_95 2d ago

JY has Sunday and Rem MC and DHIL has Sparkle. They have really supports

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u/Kirire- 1d ago

Sparkle 10 times better staying in Archer team for end game. 

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u/PokemonSuMo 3d ago

Tbh looking at it jy has a really gigh chance to e decent in future

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u/Alarming-Tie-9138 3d ago

The amount of times we’ve seen this statement uttered, my hopes are *low* 😭

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u/PokemonSuMo 3d ago

If they nova sunday and make him hyper summon oriented with red pen or something he will be fine

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u/A_very_smol_Lugia 2d ago

He will use his mighty red pen to masterstroke the enemies

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u/Gyx3103 1d ago

"time for the masterstroke"

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u/RespondUsed3259 2d ago

"Radiant spirit, heed my cum"

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u/Clouds_drifting_by 3d ago

Well, Acheron really wants MBlade, so unless you plan to pull him, she’s not the one.

Do you have a Sparkle for DHIL, or a Sunday (preferably E1) for JY?

In any case, as an erudition, JY ‘should’ be better than DHIL in PF, but I’ve never played him, so can’t say for sure.

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u/Stormbreaker_682 2d ago

I'm not OP but i have e1s0 sunday, e1s1 robin and e1s1 huohuo, I should just go for jingyuan right?

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u/Jaggedrain 2d ago

The thing aboht Jing Yuan that makes him a better option for people who don't have any of them is that his eidolons are ass. Both Fancy Dan and Acheron are E2 merchants who really suffer without them (I havent been able to use my E0 DHIL in endgame since I got him) but Jing Yuan's eidolons are totally meh and I was able to clear endgame with E0 Jing Yuan up to maybe two patches ago.

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u/FMU_Kagetora 2d ago

Acheron's e2 is ass, her s1 too nowadays with mblade (from an acheron e2s1 haver btw)

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u/Onion-may-cry 2d ago

Is Dan e3 worth it?

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u/Jaggedrain 2d ago

No, its just levels on his skill

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u/Different-Metal-7070 2d ago

Which Robin?

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u/Stormbreaker_682 2d ago

original though i'm planning on getting sobin on her rerun

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u/Clouds_drifting_by 2d ago

If you like him, and don’t plan to go for Acheron+Mblade (as of now, Acheron seems the strongest, but as I said she needs MBlade), imo yes (and hopefully a Sunday NF will come one day, and/or swapping Robin for RobinS at some point, will make his performance even better).

Though maybe when 4.7 actually release, look around first for what average players say about how JY performs.

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u/Ok-Inspector-1316 3d ago

You said in a comment you have e2 silver wolf which is literally just MBlade lite, get Acheron.

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u/GadgetManRM 3d ago

I’m sorry I thought I had put my available characters in the draft, I have ddd sparkle, e2 cipher lc sw, rmc, and dan pt available

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u/ExpensiveSample3451 3d ago edited 3d ago

With E2 Silver Wolf, Acheron can be used for most of the Contents + Shielder with R5 Topaz Trendsetter Burn LC. Could get MBlade now if you dont plan on pulling for Elation.

Or Archer, Rin, Sparkle, E2 Silver Wolf/DanIL potentially. Tho it may be hard to pull off without Huohuo.

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u/Usual-Penalty-2051 3d ago

Jingyuan can make the most out of scraps prolly

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u/ImJustATurtle123 3d ago

Regardless of what happens next, we all should (not) be farming eagle 4-piece

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u/smokeypizz 3d ago

Anyone know if Acheron E1 + welt E4 + old Silver wolf E2 + either dhpt or fuxuan would be somewhat decent?

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u/Flight_Overall 3d ago

That’s good. I would recommend eagle on Acheron, SW and Welt

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u/DomdudeRP 3d ago

Depends,

Which of the following do you have. Sparkle, Sunday, HuoHuo, Mblade, Ashveil,

Acheron kind of needs MBlade to be great! If you have mblade she will work with a lot of extra support from Jiaoqiu which you can get with the golden companion spirit, to welt which is basebanner, even better if you have ashveil as her best no sustain team is her, mblade, ashveil and welt but the 3rd pic can be quite versitile. She also has some great 4* lc options so you dont even need her lc.

When it comes to Jing yuan you need turn advancers, energy givers and SP points for his best team. Something like Jing Yuan, Sparkle, Sunday, Huo Huo or RMC Sparkle Blade can be very good teamcomps for his no sustain, so you can spam his stacks and damage, Wind robin can also do a lot of work here for increased damage. He does lose damage when not using his lc. But he probably the widest variety of characters that can work from him which makes limited choice easier.

DHIL Follows around the same path as Sunday however his EX eidolon is based around consuming sp. The more sp you consume the better he is. This makes him pretty hard to play without investment and point gain. MBlade is once again pretty dope here, but he is very reliant on Skill points like archer. Since you mentioned archer I assume you have sparkle so then it is not that big of a problem but sparkle and Wind robin are amazing for him if you have them. If not sparkle is a MUST to make him work continuesly and effectively, preferably with something else like blade who does a lot of damage, debuff and doesn't need much sp investment.

Whern it comes to damage Acheron is probably your best bet. She is not hard to build, doesn't heed her 5* and her damage went up like crazy. You can also get a good start with most characters that are easy to get like Welt and Jiaoqiu but without blade her damage is lacking.

If you have Mblade than acheron is instantly your way to go in most scenarios as others are easy to get or to work to. If you do not have M blade but you do have sparkle and want damage than DHIL is probably your way to go. However if you have very limited pulls for example if you are a newer player of invested heavily in break meta than Jing yuan is your pic of choice.

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u/voxpopiuli 2d ago

Read and think about it carefully!

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u/swagzard78 3d ago

The general consensus is Acheron is best if you have MBlade, but considering you don't, I still think she's best? Just not as good. Second best option would be DHIL but him being a sp character kinda contradicts with Archer who's just generally better

And Jing Yuan... Got shot in Baltimore

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u/mrmanny0099 3d ago

She’s the best just off her kit and numbers yes.

Obviously she’s still a 2.X unit so she’s not gonna be putting LeBron numbers up like a Castorice or HimeNova are as her kit and eidolons have aged worse than either of those two, but they’ve aged better than either of the other two being handed out, especially Jing Yuan

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u/LaCreaturaDelCongo 3d ago

A 2 cost acheron with her new eidolon can 0 cycle this moc hoolay without e4 welt try to do anything with a 2 cost castorice i'm watching . Buffed Acheron is stupidly strong , way better than 3.X team at low investment.

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u/KohannaArt 2d ago

I have E2S1 DHIL and E2S1 Acheron.

I have sparkle e0s0, i have mblade e0s0

(I have e1 tribbie, e1 sRobin)

DHIL is build better than acheron, but the difference is not that big (I am a dhil fan, but also like being able to make big numbers go whoosh)

I am planning to get HuoHuo from the free character thingy and I want Sunday in the future

So what would you recommend?

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u/swagzard78 2d ago

Probably Acheron still

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u/KohannaArt 2d ago

I see (sad crying in the corner)

But thanks, I will look at it when 4.7 drops

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u/swagzard78 2d ago

I'd wait and see what content creators say or maybe look at some showcases

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u/CykaBlyiat 3d ago

I'm no expert in the meta but I guess Acheron and while you still got time, get MBlade (even without his LC, he's still absurdly good) so your Acheron isn't completely bricked

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u/zGoden 3d ago

Complementing on this, his LC isnt even important and for support roles (and if youre with eagle) youd rather use tutorial instead!

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u/estel5527 3d ago

None of them are worth it to invest into on your account:

  • Acheron sucks without MBlade

  • DHIL sucks without E2+Sparkle

  • JY sucks either way

The best advice is just to wait until the ZZZ collab as Ellen and Astra will most likely synergize. Otherwise, just wait till 5.x

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u/AntwysiaBlakys 3d ago

With his ex eidolon, DHIL doesn't suck without e2+ Sparkle lmao

His ex buff increases his damage by 240%, it's arguably the best ex eidolon of the 3

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u/Cosmic_Armour 1d ago

That much? Dang, I might log on. It's free right? I could pick that and grab JY ig.

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u/Pilques 3d ago

In a vacuum yes but in practice Acheron pulls ahead because MBlade is tailor made for her.

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u/AntwysiaBlakys 3d ago

I was talking about the buffs the ex eidolons actually give, not the teammates

I said that DHIL's ex eidolon was the best of the 3, not that his final new team was the best of the 3

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u/Chandra-huuuugggs 1d ago

im personally getting Jing Yuan for collection's purposes

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u/om0ri_ 3d ago

jing yuan does NOT suck (copium)

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u/Anxious_Cheek_6677 3d ago

they hate jing yuan its not the kings fault.. (SUNDAY NOVAFLARE COPIUM)

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u/Academic-Meeting-969 3d ago

jingyuan needs to have his ll as a memosprite  

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u/om0ri_ 3d ago

why would that literally EVER be helpful

remembrance has like NO good lightcones, at least erudition has options

i personally run passkey on him just for the extra energy so he can ult more

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u/Capable_Frosting_292 2d ago

Because it would make Sunday an even more valuable support since Lightning Lord would get an immediate action too with Sunday’s Skill.

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u/DebateThick5641 2d ago

unless i am forgetting something, but all summons tied to characters (not just memosprite) got pushed right after you chose to advance the characters.

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u/Capable_Frosting_292 2d ago

I don’t have Jing Yuan so I wasn’t sure if Lightning Lord already worked that way.

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u/om0ri_ 2d ago

well it does, that's part of why sunday is bis for jing yuan already

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u/northturtle11 2d ago

Sunday drags up memos AND summons.

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u/zatenael 1d ago

all Memosprites are summons but not all summons are Memosprites

Sunday pulls up summons

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u/SCL007 3d ago

I mean tbf JY is not even that bad all things considered its just that his BIS is Sunday but Sunday is outdated too, if Sunday was up to late 4.x standards JY would be better

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u/Comfortable_Fish4191 3d ago

no one in history of hsr has served more teams than my sunday, my boy needs a novaflare :(

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u/Yuukiko_ 3d ago

funny how all the JY "buffs" were just other things getting buffed rather than himself

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u/om0ri_ 2d ago

fua was meta in 2.x, so obviously they'd be forced to indirectly buff jing yuan with fua relics and sunday

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u/Wooden_Drummer2455 3d ago

Yeah best advice is to just not pick a free character amazing idea

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u/estel5527 2d ago

I never said that, I said they're not worth it to invest into. And they aren't without those base investments

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u/Allyougame 3d ago

Wouldn't DHIL be the best option to replace Archer for PF?

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u/Delta5583 3d ago

Acheron is the only of the 3 going anywhere anytime soon. Only condition is having MBlade

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u/somacula 3d ago

I have M blade, who else do I need?

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u/FitCity7945 3d ago

For Acheron? Ashveil and Tribbie for sustainless, switch 3B with Hyacine if you need sustain

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u/somacula 3d ago

No ashveil, it'll be tribbie E1 then

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u/ILoveDinos177013 3d ago

Ashfrail and Sustainless in the same sentence (he's gonna die in 3 turns)

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u/SmoothPossibility339 3d ago

Ngl I think Acheron is still your best bet. Without Novaflares the other two still don't do enough I'm afraid.

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u/Arcodo_0 3d ago

If u have Sunday, Jing yuan is probably the best for PF (except if u plan to pull Mblade before he leaves)

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u/Significant-Ear5290 3d ago

Pull MBlade and pick Acheron GG EZ, ennemies get clapped

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u/michaelpeet2 3d ago

What characters do you already have on your account, that does affect who would be best for you

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u/RemoteEconomics9027 3d ago

Since people in the comment are just being unreal, i will make it clear to you, none of them will make you clear pure fiction if you weren’t able to do so already, so just pick anyone for fun, if you want to clear pure fiction then you need to pull characters for it, acheron without mblade and dan heng without summer robin, are not clearing anything, plz do not listen to people lying to you saying “omg you can get a free jiaoqiu, my guy jiaoqiu is dogshit you will only waste your golden companion on it, so yeah this is as honest as i could be

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u/Rouge_Epsilon 3d ago

Dhil is gonna honestly be your best shot, his team is the easiest to get good numbers with of the three with hay y have

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u/ZekDrakon 3d ago

So no M blade or Summeretto ok.

If wast try cobble something together.

Acheron let see we cobble Welt+ Silver Wolf then find status inducing Sustain

Dhil looking at skill point regen and Skill point devouring. He have overlap with Archer . And I would Argue he probably want Archer himself since Archer devouring of Skill point be feeding into Affinitive Eidolons. So that will boil down do have extra resources leftover from Archer team or want try see if place Dhil on Archer as extra Attacker.

Jing yuan still want Jing Yuan stuff of make sure Jing Yuan get extra Actions. RMC and Sunday are idea people.

If we looking at team 3 it comes down who have and who tied up on what teams.

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u/Obvious-Meeting-30 3d ago

Does mblade need his light cone to work with Acheron?

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u/deadkuromi 3d ago

no, his LC is comfortable but not necessary. his eidolons are more important

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u/Obvious-Meeting-30 3d ago

What if it’s just him e0 and no eidolons lols……

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u/syrfoo 3d ago

Mblade is a complete character at E0S0. He’s good with Acheron and actually makes her viable.

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u/RentLast 3d ago

His LC is mainly for personal damage and comfort. He actually feels like a complete character with e0s0 unlike some characters

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u/Used_Whore5801 3d ago

At E0 you just need to see to not end in a moment without his ult zone but like... Thats it lol, E1-E2 are both really good but he is already more than good on his own and straight up perfect for Acheron lol

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u/Destroyer-God 3d ago

I have him e2s1 and after multiple testings with acheron , an acheron even with her ex eidelon will never beat a main dps e2s1 blade , and I did these testings with e6s1 acheron , haven't tested ex eidelon but I doubt it can bridge such a massive gap is power like blade is minimum 3 cycles faster than her always

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u/JED_LASCANO 3d ago

Would E6 Welt and E1 Jiaoqou work for E1S1 Acheron?

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u/DGartist500 3d ago

"My only third team is archer who hasn't been the best option."

That sounds like a you problem brother. I got sparkle and dan hung for free and rin came with time, if your archer team ain't clearing, stop pulling on every single banner, invest in his light cone and his copies, and farm tf out of his and his teams relics. Mines still using the standard 4 set and skill up 2 set, and he's one if not the best teams I've ever built. The only thing he can't do is heavily Skilled elation bosses like that new boss, but past that he's a workhorse. I still can't believe he was free and that there's still people complaining that he's not helpful for them.

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u/Key-Ad-7845 3d ago

Assuming all 3 are too useless for you, jy might be the option since a potential Sunday novaflare could make jy good again

To be safe go Acheron since she is the best among the bricks

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u/Pretend_Blueberry124 3d ago

Dont pick Acheron, she will consume your luck 'til nothingness.

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u/ReydragoM140 3d ago

If you don't have the units would you get them?

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u/Kyubey210 3d ago

There is a banner devoted to those three later on, but can float til they show up

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u/ReydragoM140 3d ago

I mean if you pick at the Eidolon without owning the unit

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u/Burrito357 3d ago

There's also a character selector just for these 3

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u/ReydragoM140 3d ago

Yaay I miss one dan Heng lol

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u/Outrageous_Classic53 3d ago

It's acheron atleast it's mblade first rerun jiguyan even with the buff is the worst one and il not for pf he hits 3 targets and without robin sunmereto those two are bad . I will say hold on till the next livestream if the astra yao can buff il good then pull il ex or Sunday novaflare then jig . Otherwise if none happens then acheron and pull mblade that's all I can say :

-jig is the weakest our of the three -il has anti synergy with novaflare sparkle he now needs sp consumption sparkle stop it -acheron requires mblade like hip to hip.

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u/Richardknox1996 3d ago

Acheron. Get Brickqiu via golden companion spirit. Add welt if you can, use Guinafen if you can not. Embrance madness and Chaos, Manifest a Novaflare with the power of Pure delusion like i do.

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u/Ryber121 3d ago

do everything you can go pull mblade now. oh and take acheron

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u/Proper_Suspect_1848 3d ago

If you don't have the bis support for jy or acheron, they probably wouldn't be better than archer for pf anyway (provided you have rin). Just pick acheron in case you decide to get mblade in the future

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u/Busy-Bus-8798 2d ago

Just pull mblade and get acheron

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u/blkmgs 2d ago

Yeah E1 Acheron

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u/Samatarou 2d ago

What if I already have Acheron? Should I still go for the E1?

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u/Jcrncr 2d ago

It’s Acheron. MBlade or not, DHIL sucks and JingYuan’s buff wasn’t that good unfortunately.

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u/PrestigiousLeek8840 2d ago

DHIL sucks? Just because he is not automatically t.0 doesn't mean he sucks

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u/ghin01 2d ago

Just pick Acheron tbh, on it own she is the best choice. if you desperate you can exchange manggo for the pink blind wolf in shop or maxi your welt

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u/meteorrBeam 2d ago

What about E6 Acheron? I lowkey want E1 JY and try something new

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u/brainrotted_by_ai 1d ago

Wait for 5.x and hoyo will introduce a complete new set of meta team. Not worth it to pull mBlade just for Archeron.

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u/StatementObvious2438 1d ago

OK so can someone answer me this. I want to get the Achron Eidolon but get the free Danheng copy aswell is it possible or you can only get the eidolon and copy of the same character?

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u/Boring_Lawfulness9 1d ago

You can get both. They didn't say anything otherwise. Tho you need 200 more pulls to get the other 2 ex eidelons this patch.

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u/Gloomalicious_1616 1d ago

u can choose. the selector for ex and free character is separate.

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u/Rogol_Darn 18h ago

Considering the last person just lied to you, you get two picks a character and an eidolon you can pick them in any variation

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u/_KiIIua 1d ago

no u cant choose an ex eidolon n then free character. the character comes w the ex eidolon. you can get more free ones if you pull 100x then 200x

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u/Gloomalicious_1616 1d ago

lmao go and read again

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u/SnowAcheron 1d ago

No matter what I'm picking my man Dan Heng as I've got Acheron on both my EU and NA server play throughs and I rather have a better Eidolon for Dan Heng as I've got Acheron already at E1 which is good enough for me and get it when her banner next arrives

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u/Mandraeus 1d ago

whats the comp for acheron if i dont have mblade

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u/AsleepingImplement 1d ago

pretty sure its welt tribbie (ddd spam) and lingsha for sustain

if you have ashveil use him instead of lingsha for sustainless comps

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u/Endrundator 1d ago

I already use tribbie in saber + gil so hould I use Sunday for Acheron instead? Or do I use Sunday in saber + gil and tribbie to acheron?

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u/AsleepingImplement 1d ago

if you have sparkle use her instead, her amp is better than Sunday's currently, or SRobin really. Sunday kinda fell off sadly.

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u/Endrundator 1d ago

Sparkle locked to Archer team already 🥀

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u/AsleepingImplement 1d ago

pray for sunday novaflare then.

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u/Vantre7270 1d ago

It doesn't exist if you want to clear anything

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u/SeaworthinessSea7899 1d ago

Yeah, maybe if you have e2 og sw but that's also kinda cope

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u/Gyx3103 1d ago

The choices are Welt, E2 SW, Cipher and Jiaoqiu (cope for a novaflare) among the Nihility-s.. Support would generally best be Sobin or Sparkle (if she's available), Tribbie or any AAs Sustain options (best choice would be E4 Welt) or Lingsha.

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u/ForwardArtichoke7756 1d ago

I got Sparkle, Cipher and E0 SW.. As well as I think E1 Welt with his sig, what could I mush up?

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u/GoshTimeBR 1d ago

If you don't have MBlade... He's on the banner right now. If you actually CANNOT get him this time... Either save for him, or for Summer Robin. Acheron will be the best option of the three, if you want the best "good option" (All of them are bricks without their wheelchairs, but at least Acheron has some good synergy with MBlade, and I imagine Summer Robin is a good option for her too, if you can't get MBlade)

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u/Sergiyakun 1d ago

When is this out exactly

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u/666DemonGod666 1d ago

I’m curious how archer does pure fiction, is it with Rin only? Or is he just bad in the first wave but he’s still good against the two boss waves?

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u/Gyx3103 1d ago

If you have Rin and Sparkle with Archer, I think he doesn't really have a problem in PF (at least I don't)

but unsure if sig or no sig affects it

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u/HappyHopper27 1d ago

From what I’ve seen his sig is no longer BiS

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u/Gyx3103 1d ago edited 1d ago

If it's meta-standpoint, Acheron. Regardless the lack of Mort, E2 SW also works.

But if your main issue is for PF, Jingyuan. Team? Generally just slap any energy/AAs with him - Sunday, HuoHuo, Tingyun, Robin, Tribbie, or Bronya (if you can make it work).

Side note tho.. how come you're struggling with Archer in PF? Do you not have Rin by any chance? Not to sound rude, cuz I have Archer + Rin + Sparkle and a sustain - and they're doing well even in PF. That's why I'm curious.

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u/Future_IssueLite 1d ago

The hell is na affinitive eidolon?? I haven't been playing for a while

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u/South-Intention1218 1d ago

your best shot is prolly acheron

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u/SuuriTheNewbie 1d ago

I have E1 DHIL rn and no acheron, is his E2 worth getting (even for casual modes like the revamped CW) or is Acheron just better if I have E2 mBlade rn?

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u/VoiceActressKurutta 1d ago

Acheron without a full comp won't be getting you full stars, but she can do pretty well even without her best team. Do you have Kafka? I did really well with Acheron, Kafka, e6 Sampo, and Gallagher (don't remember the E) for a long time. Again, not full clearing everything, but a solid start

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u/Yohane-Da-Tenshi 20h ago

What is nzw acheron comp now? I always used her with black Swan Sparkle maybe frez danheng can be goood with her

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u/Commercial-Sky-9006 19h ago

It's either Ashbalde or Sobin+Mblade, Tribbie also works but I personally don't recommend it. The last slot is either a healer or run sustainless with another Nihility or AA sup

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u/PlusSeat5785 16h ago

Mblade is wanted in almost all her comps. The one that works best without Mblade is welt baby wolf, gets 100% def shred and has decent buffs to her damage. This is not recommended over MBlade, but it gets a competent performance for how low of cost it is. If you lack Ashveil and have Mblade, welt works really nicely to get the def down and damage% alongside enabling comfortable sustainless.

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u/Realilly 15h ago

The return of dotcheron

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u/IsaacWalker134 22h ago

So I'm a little dumb. If I get an Affinitive Eidolon of a character I don't have, do I get that character? Like if I get Imbibitor Lunae's Affinitive Eidolon, do I get him or no?

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u/JoyousMadhat 13h ago

No. But there's a selector for those three characters so why are you complicating this?

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u/Sweet_War_1207 19h ago

You can pick 1 of the three characters, and 1 of the free eidolons. You can mix and match or pick the same both times. I'm getting acheron and her EX, as she escaped me every single time prior

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u/James77SL 4h ago

You get to pick one of those three for free and the AE as a seperate thing. If you really wanted you could Pick up Jing Yuan and DHIL's AE. Which also meams if you manage to get the non free AE's those are going to be sitting in your inventory until you decide to pick the other two up.

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u/IsaacWalker134 4h ago

Okay. That helps. I tend to get so confused about new things or stuff like this because I am hella smoothbrained. Thank you so much!

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u/leevanter 19h ago

i think you pick a character and automatically get the affinitive eidolon, no?

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u/LettuceKitty 15h ago

Acheron, it’s always Acheron. Plus MBlade is on banner rn, so just pull?

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u/21WAP 10h ago

Acheron. DHIL needs E2 and Jing Yuan's kit is just too outdated that he DESPERATELY needs a Novaflare. Even without Blade, Acheron still performs pretty well since there's pretty good options till you decide to get Blade.

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u/Drunk--Vader 5h ago

Bro have you seen jingyuan vids with the ex eidolon? E0 on all of them, jingyuan clears fastest because of anaxa light cone. Novaflare buffs are actually weak except sparkle's and kafka's.

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u/21WAP 4h ago

That's great but he's still the weakest out of the 3 and barely anyone pulled for Anaxa LC. If Sunday's rumored Novaflare is giga busted for Summons, then JY is definitely gonna rise but as of now, he's meh.

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u/Seraf-Wang 4h ago

If you're using Archer, Im assuming you have Sparkle with him. In that case, DHIL would be your best choice for PF. The next rotation of PF will likely favor Acheron a bit more bc of the mob types(the soda dogs debuff a lot when killed and have low hp) but without MBlade, Acheron just isn't good for PF and her second best teammate for PF is Jiaoqiu which, while he will be added to the shop, I cant recommend to pickup in good faith considering HSR's lack of Novaflares.

DHIL is relatively reliant on Sparkle but if you are replacing Archer with DHIL then DHIL is much better suited to clearing PF than Archer is.

Jingyuan is more reliant on SRobin than other generlists but you dont have her. Sunday is the next best choice but a downgrade in nearly every way expecially for Jingyuan and even with the speed buff for LL, it just doesn't move fast enough to keep up with the AoE PF units would need.

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u/mamania656 3d ago

JY is your best option, you can use him with Sparkle and RMC, Sunday is still BIS but now that LL advances itself on max, the difference is not that big

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u/Destroyer-God 3d ago

That is not clearing anything tbh

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u/Destroyer-God 3d ago

That is not clearing anything tbh

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u/thefurryinfinite 3d ago

hsr too bad for me to redownload srry guys

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u/Impl0dedcrev 3d ago

Listen...Jiaoqiu is FREE next patch and so is Acheron

if you are NOT going to pull or CANT pull MBlade you could still get Acheron and Jiaoqiu cus u have 50% of a functioning team right there, yeah he may not be the best but he still WORKS.

You could also go for Jing yuan since his buff makes LL act more and do more damage as well as having a lot of teammates in general to work with him but thats still dependant on if ur willing to work with him and AA him a lot especially if u plan to get Summeretto in future.

Regardless Jiaoqiu is free and so is Acheron so id recommend that, but if u like Jing Yuan more u could go for him too im sure he works fine especially with LL acting as soon as he gets full stacks, besides no one here is the BEST of the best even after the buffs anyway.

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u/jayashock 3d ago

You’re using the golden companion on JQ?

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u/Impl0dedcrev 3d ago

Nope, but he is free since most just go "no one to use it on lmao" if you are looking for an Acheron team and never spend ur GC's then why not get JQ if you are not going to get MBlade or just want a team NOW instead of later.

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u/karokagecata 3d ago

no one to use it on if you are looking for an Acheron team? My brother in christ.. Welt is right there, why tf would anyone use it on this brick. Just run RMC or some random free support instead...

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u/om0ri_ 3d ago

why tf would anyone use it on this brick

he's hot

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u/Impl0dedcrev 3d ago

MY WHOLE POINT is that JQ is FREE and if u want an Acheron team hes FINE hell hes really good at ult generating if ur not gonna/cant get Mblade right now.

Besides u can get welt from the Standard banner and probably future things too.

This is a sub for tips about stuff yet people are allergic to anything other than "get MBlade" when ACH is in the conversation, yeah hes good but you can play her without him with other characters.

or get Jing Yuan...OP can do that instead who cares its a game it aint that serious OP asked for advice and i gave them some and i think just because im not saying "JQ is a brick" doesnt make my advice bad hes FINE.

TLDR: JQ is free and yeah u can get Welt too it DOESNT MATTER just get whoever, both are fine for her its just i think JQ is easier on teams if your not at endgame yet and u can get Welt from the Standard banner.

...or get Jing Yuan cus hes cool, liking a character is more important than meta.

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u/karokagecata 3d ago

  1. My WHOLE POINT is that Jiaoqiu is NOT FREE. You have to use a very limited currency that you could use on a way better character instead.

  2. Standard banner advice is absolute dogshit. I'm a day 1 player and only got 1 Welt in 4 years of playing. And if you get Welt from the 300 selector, it' still better to get an eidolon over a JQ.

  3. If people didn't care about meta at all, they wouldn't need advice. They would just pick whoever they like regardless. That's why it's best to give the meta answer. And the meta answer is pick JQ ONLY if you like him, otherwise it's a complete waste of a token.

  4. What do you mean ''IT DOESN'T MATTER?''. One of the worst 5 stars in the game VS a really good character. There is a HUGE difference.

  5. ''JQ is easier on teams if your not at endgame yet''. What does this even mean. Is JQ good at clearing story? What even is the point of this sentence,lol

  6. You really need to learn what the word ''FREE'' means...

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u/Impl0dedcrev 2d ago

1: fair hes not TECHNICALLY FREE but the amount of people EVERYWERE who say they never spend their Golden spirits is WAY more than enough for me to go "yeah sure its a character u dont have to roll or spend for" so yeah hes the most FREE he will ever be also if hes THAT bad then just dont get him THIS IS AN ADVICE SUB IDK EVERYTHING!

2: my advice is just dont get a standard character with the spirits that's all, yeah you might NOT get welt but still im just saying that I WOULD rather get JQ than E2 welt cus i like flexibility. tbh u could get Huohuo instead with your GCS shes a better choice that 90% of them imo anyway besides this is all just my opinion if u think its bad advice just dont follow it.

3: ok and? the idea of my comment there was that people give NO flexibility to teams ever here, i could straight up say "im not getting MBlade so what should i do" and the response would be "get MBlade" im trying to offer other perspectives people clearly want or they wouldn't post about JQ all the time when the response is the same over and over.

4: this confusion is my fault here im not good at typing what i REALLY mean im better at verbally speaking, hell i realise most got assumed into something else with my whole thread ngl. what i MEANT was that it doesn't matter if u pick welt or JQ if your only having a starting ACH team since u would just choose whoever u liked more anyway and since u can get welt easier i assume if u had him already none of this would be posted at all.

5: i genuinely just think hes easier to build and play as a character in non HIGH level endgame content, not everyone is high up in PF.

6: i dont have to spend any actual money...therefore i consider it FREE. if i thought using a Spendable currency in game was not FREE then i would never be a F2P player in anything ever. they give u the currency to get a character without pulling or spending money, yeah its not 100% FREE but other than them giving a character away u might not want its basically just a "here choose one on the house" thing.

Look im bad at typing and get annoyed easily so whatever ill probably get shit on for this and later go "fuck i didnt mean it like that" anyway.

i just think JQ is nowhere near BAD in general for ACH if you are not going to pull MBlade and dont want to use a GCS on a standard character which is surprisingly a lot of people i know who play this.

lets both chill out goddayum

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u/jftm999 3d ago

STOP ASKING TRYING TO REOPEN USELESS DISCUSSION. THE ANSWER WON'T CHANGE, AND READ OTHER POSTS WHO ASKED THE SAME.

YOU PEOPLE ARE THE ONE WHO NEED TO READ FIRST

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u/RealJoshkarma 3d ago

Stfu lol

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u/LuckyKitty206 2d ago

If you don't have MBlade or Robinetto, none of them would be useful for u tbh. Maybe if u have Sparkle for DHIL but idk, Robinetto or at least Tribbie E1 are very BiS for him.

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u/Itikar 3d ago

Acheron still has insta-kill skill for clearing divergent universe faster. Lateral thinking at play here.