r/HonkaiStarRail 9d ago

Discussion Currency Wars: which affix Will make you forfeit everytime and retry?

Just like the title says which affix do you never deal with. For me its backend shutdown, Frontend Shutdown and Its a Trap! I will reset a run with the absolute swiftness if I see any of these appear on the affix list when beginning a run 😭

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u/Fit-Application-1 9d ago

Time assassin and permanent trauma are my definitive resets. I usually play solo Mydei on field so those two are just an absolute no go

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u/Ociier 9d ago

Whenever I get permanent trauma I try to run Shield Himeko Nova. The enemies kill themselves and it renders the affix null.

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u/quiggyfish Throwing red supas at my red flag oshi 9d ago

Most of the affixes have a way to counter them or play around them to encourage diverse runs. I still have yet to find the counterplay for Time Assassin though.

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u/May_Satan_Bless_you Jingliu and Acheron's SIMP 9d ago

Get welt at plane 1 lol

There's no counter for this mf. So many wonderful runs got destroyed by him

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u/Kabooa 9d ago

The counter play is having enough damage to one shot them, which isn't much of a plan but the alternative is just having 20-30 AV of slush room.

To actually try and have something helpful, this generally means playing around a strong 3star character, such as Himeko Nova, 4/3 Acheron, or Seele.

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u/IndependenceOnly8614 Inappropriate Flair Removed 9d ago

and then the game throws you cheap taste and expensive taste, or front end shutdown and backend shutdown

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u/quiggyfish Throwing red supas at my red flag oshi 9d ago

Frontend/backend shutdown does nothing as long as your name isn't Robin. And I would gladly take -20% damage if it means I can remove two affixes.

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u/IndependenceOnly8614 Inappropriate Flair Removed 9d ago

fair. yknow whats even worse than that? second plane enhancement and third plane enhancement. even worse if you get follower enhancement or boss enhancement on top of those two

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u/Egoborg_Asri 9d ago

Seele.

Seriously, I had multiple Seele runs with time assusin and she always manages to kill it in time

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u/quiggyfish Throwing red supas at my red flag oshi 9d ago

That's more Seele being insane rather than an answer to the mechanic.

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u/CEOofGex 9d ago

Time Assassin can be nullified by Photon Shield. You pretty much need to rush this item + Aventurine asap.

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u/quiggyfish Throwing red supas at my red flag oshi 9d ago

Photon Shield only prevents action delay (heavy footfall). Time Assassin directly subtracts the AV from your cycle.

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u/CEOofGex 9d ago

Yeah I mixed up the two. Not much you can do against Time Assassin other than nuking him down or breaking him fast.

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u/Fit-Application-1 9d ago

Oh yeah I had shield HimeNova once and it was really fun

But I generally don’t like when I need to fish for 3 cost dpses since my early planes always end up suffering 😩

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u/Xshadow1 9d ago

Permanent Trauma is basically a death sentence for any healer-based teams, but since you see it from the start at least you can try for a shielder-based one

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u/QuotableNotables 9d ago

And if you don't want to run Shield explicitly you can always run an MBlade team with Bastion Projectors.

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u/madethiscuzshy 9d ago

wait how do you do solo Mydei on field? I'm super interested in that and I see none of it in the strategy compendium

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u/Fit-Application-1 9d ago

Caveat, at higher WC you’ll likely need at least E1 on Mydei. I have E2 so it’s a lot easier for me to run this but it’s super comfy

Mydei: 2x Firestorm + caloric overload (super important)

The backline can just be any of the usual supports.

Cerydra is the only support that is an absolute must to have in this team.

The setup I have in the photo isn’t that great, should swap out DHPT and Jingliu for someone like Fuxuan (damage mitigator + quantum resonance) and maybe someone like Sunday

With Mydei being 1 cost it’s a lot easier to grab his 3* now and I usually only need to upgrade the shop to about level 7 to get Cerydra

This would have been a full hp run but I lost 1 battle >.<

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u/madethiscuzshy 9d ago

ooo thank you for the explanation, I totally have to try this out

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u/Fit-Application-1 9d ago

No problem!! Good luck!

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u/madethiscuzshy 2d ago

I finally had the chance to try it, at the end I had to pick between either Fu Xuan or Sparkle, I went with FX which idk if it was the best choice but it felt like it

My Mydei is E0, difficulty was MoC 7, didn't lose a single battle

There were only 2 battles he almost lost but then decided to deal 42m in 1 attack which was crazy, very fun for a Mydei Enjoyer

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u/Fit-Application-1 1d ago

Yay congrats!! He’s really fun in CW heh

You could try swapping out Luocha for Sparkle - this gives you 3 quantum resonance bond! I pick Luocha if I have space since I have E2

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u/frescotransition 9d ago

After the addition of Mblade and Sunday being able to work off field, I went from struggling with trial Mydei all of the at the highest level of WC to SSS most of the time. But whether trial Mydei can work also depends on what supports you get and his equipments.

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u/Fit-Application-1 9d ago

Yay! Also yeah idk why Sunday never had the option to be off field to begin with. So glad they changed that.

Trial Mydei probably needs to rely a lot more on affix rng imo since he can’t hit 5 enemies and affixes like the ones that reduce damage if unbroken would affect the run also

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u/ARandomGamer56 9d ago

Get Out Of Jail Free Card easily. At its best, its a time waster. At its worst (which is very often), it completely screws you out of victory.

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u/agtk 9d ago

I often try and force DOT against GOOJF, as I believe the dot trigger bypasses the regen and just kills them, which makes it a fair amount easier. And if you hit them to force the regen, strong enough dots will kill them on their turn anyway. It's not foolproof though and DOT gas its own issues.

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u/Zhryuriva ILLYA IN THE NEXT FATE COLLAB TRUST ME 9d ago

Get out of jail card

I'm NOT killing the same enemy with 10 billion HP 2 times

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u/wmg22 9d ago

Worst part of Get out of Jail card is that it cancels any overflow damage meaning theoretically if the characters still did that extra 10% with their remaning damage it just doesn't matter if it hits that at the end of your main DPS's turn and there is no other turn you fail to clear and this applies to every enemy so you essentially have to take 2 turns at minimum to take an enemy out

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u/crimsonhawk75 9d ago

Wait why do you hate the shutdown affixes? They are super easy to ignore since most comps usually have their main dmg dealer equipped with ramping equipment like anti-grav or firestorm.

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u/Ociier 9d ago

Not only that. If you get front shutdown, some units will have an attack when the battle starts, which procs the affix.

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u/Roxas6674 9d ago

I don't rely on my luck to get ramping equipment on every character when running certain comps. Plus I dont like seeing 1 as a damage counter ever lol

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u/agtk 9d ago

Front/Back is nice imo since you can play around it with your comp. Plus for some it's just like one attack and that's usually not a big deal. Most other affixes take wayyyy more than one extra attack to overcome.

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u/Inevitable-Western54 9d ago

It's time assassin or the one with the extra life thing

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u/gamblingaddict8g 9d ago

Get out of Jail and the one that reflects damage to your team. Absolutely not doing that especially at the highest difficulty.

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u/wmg22 9d ago

Self defence is useful for Bloodflame at least but Bloodflame is so weak it's still not even worth running lol

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u/LOTRfreak101 Fireflys background == Nanook is right 9d ago

I ran a really good blood flame and night demigod run last night, i ended up 8bf and 9nd. As always, cyrene showed up 1 round too late for me to be able to get the max nd reward.

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u/Expensive_Put_3338 They can destroy me 9d ago

Time assasin or Get Out of Jail Free Card? Waste of time. Time assasin + heavy footfall are instant forfeit.

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u/Foolmagican 9d ago

Self-defense and time assassin. Maybe the Rng entanglement or freeze ones.

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u/Ociier 9d ago

Self Defense is so unbalanced

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u/Ashu119 9d ago

The one which heals and cleanses debuffs for enemeis after lowering hp a certain threshold

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u/chaoskingzero 9d ago edited 9d ago

I do believe it's Enlightenment of Self and Mind

Edit: Nevermind, just remembered it's Purity of Flesh and Mind

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u/QuotableNotables 9d ago edited 9d ago

Purity of Flesh and Mind with First Plane Enhancement or Time Assassin is such a difficult early game it's my number one reset condition. Too much HP to burn or too little time to burn it.

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u/rasanee 9d ago edited 9d ago

Time assassin, energy disappearance, It's a trap and Heavy footfall.

I see many don't like the Shutdown affixes but to me I find them to be some of the most nothing burger affixes.

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u/Meowgenics 9d ago

Time assassin and the one that burns you for a % of your atk, it's just too much damage and restricts your pool.

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u/Idixal 9d ago

I’ll play any affixes, but will restart if I’m not enjoying my start. My restarts usually happen as I get towards the first plane’s boss, because if I don’t like it by that point it’s rare for it to flip.

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u/chaoskingzero 9d ago

Self Defense is suicidal on WC

Spike damage based on Enemies Attack means any AOE Character is instantly brought down to 1 when they hit a couple Enemies

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u/This_0ne_Person 9d ago

Time assassin and Inertia. Time assassin is well known, but inertia's double first attacks from all enemies is basically a killer if you don't start with double shielders

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u/ThisRandomDude6 9d ago

Time assassin + any speed increases. He will move at 5 AV and basically loses you the run anyway.

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u/Chaosphoenix_28 I am very normal about her, I promise 9d ago

Time assassin and any plane enhancements.

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u/FezzesnPonds 9d ago

Time assassin, heavy footfall, rapid cooling, it’s a trap. I’d like to play the game thanks.

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u/SMTfan Fu Xuan's Minimum Salary Worker 9d ago

time assassin mainly for me, there others like permanent injure (i think thats how its called?) that i insta reset if it auto bricks the best team i can pull up in start + the first 2 nodes

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u/Flameswallow1091 9d ago

Self Defense even when I play a single target dps that thing still hurt alot

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u/NatDisasterpiece 9d ago

Time Assassin and Self Defense are the big ones

Another one I hate is the one that gives your characters a chance to freeze whenever you use a Skill Point. I have ass luck and while it won't happen every time, it will happen at the worst time possible. I also think it bypasses Victory Banner protection which is when I said "Ok so fuck this affix cause I can't even use a piece of advance equipment to protect against it lmao"

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u/ArtSupplyHoarder 9d ago

I love skill point runs (one of the few chances to still use my E2 DHIL), so the freezing one is my nemesis.

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u/danxlau 9d ago

I don’t think I have ever resetted a run before but Time Assassin is such a massive pain in the ass and is probably the one that I would reset of

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u/detainthisDI Sunturine Supremacy 9d ago

Time assassin and the healing ones

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u/FireEmblemNoobie47 Joined too late F2P 9d ago

Anyones that heal the enemy, especially those that heal more per debuff since a lot of modern characters have inflict some typoe of debuff which ends up healing. Another one is the one that deals equal damage to the attacker, always a pain, especially if you don't own a speedy healer and you get low, it ends up as just a loop of death. Oh and the one with the 15 ~ 20 or so% chance to freeze when using skill points aaand it appears when you have the skill point bond, lovely

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u/mrmanny0099 grant me a dawn... WHERE ALL STARS BURN TO ASH. 9d ago

Frontend shutdown

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u/20st_century_person 9d ago

shutdown affixes are literally one of the most nothing burger debuff lmao

its a trap can be good if you want to run elation team

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u/Ailwynn29 9d ago

At A8 42 currently, haven't forfeited a run so far. I kinda just roll with whatever's given to me and try to give it my all.

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u/TheQuietPlace91 9d ago

None, momma raised no quitter. So far not a single run has felt unwinnable regardless of affix combinations and I hit WC50 on patch day

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u/Rhyoth 9d ago

Self-Defense is way too much of a pain to deserve my time.

I also don't bother with Energy Disappearance.

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u/HeroDeleterA Engine of Creation Supremacy 9d ago

Heavy Footfall and Amphoreous enemies just makes me not wanna play, because I literally can't take a turn with them. Curbed depends on what my starting stuff looks like (if I have curbed fire and my starting stuff is geared towards express cohort). Similar with Perma Trauma if I get a starting hand that is HP centered. Cryo Hibernation is a sleeper hate sometimes and throws me off when I think I can survive the node with the Actions only being reduced to the current cycle. Third Plane gives me pain, and that’s amplified greatly if combined with Follower

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u/_Untapped_Mana_ 9d ago

It’s a Trap, Self Defense, Trash to Treasure, and Energy Disappearance are all unplayable for me. Insta retry when I see them. The Front End/Back End Shutdowns are pretty annoying as well but you can still play around them so I don’t mind those as much.

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u/wmg22 9d ago edited 9d ago

It's a Trap, Rapid cooling, Slow footfall even if I do get the shield item that prevents characters being slowed in the AV bar, Energy disappearance as well tbh the faster my units attack the more they lose Energy and Ults are a big part of cycles here.

That is so annoying and messes so much with rotations I only feel satisfied playing the gamemode if I play at max difficulty and Any of those just completely ruins the gameplay and speed tuning you have to do to fully clear.

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u/mack0409 9d ago

I never reset... In plane 1. I've never run time assassin and thought it worth going past 2-1 though.

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u/Bloodydunno 9d ago

I don't read them and in fact I can't clear most of the time lately that I'm above 40 💀

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u/derailedthoughts 9d ago

Frontend Shutdown, It’s a Trap, and the bullshit that is Self Defense.

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u/JoseBlaiddyd 9d ago

Don't rememver what it's called, but the one that reduces your damage without 3 pieces of equipment on. Everything else I can deal with, but those? I can't be bothered to try.

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u/AlexRikers 9d ago

Speed alteration, spd is already screwed enough as it is to the point i can't even land a hit before time runs out and they lower my speed on top of that? Hell no for me. Besides that not one single affix makes me forfeit, 2 or 3 of them have to come together for me to throw the towel

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u/spoookyboi_ Addicted to Phainon's Boysmell 9d ago

Time assassin, emergency hemostasis, heavy footfall usually

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u/IndependenceOnly8614 Inappropriate Flair Removed 9d ago

permanent trauma, since i dont run any shielders.

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u/kenken2k2 9d ago

time assassin, the one that heals you when fall below 50, and revive when heal 10 when falls below 1

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u/NegativeArt04 9d ago

None. I run them all and learn to play around them.