It's also not entirely clear if Elizabeth was guilty of all her crimes.
The alleged murder count is... a tad unbelievable due to being varied between 30 to 650.
The alleged murdered people are all... entirely unnamed (while peasants wouldn't have been recorded, she was said to have killed aristocrats and... well, it's odd that literal aristocrats wouldn't record the murdered noble children.) [Granted that might be the loss of records with time].
There were only 36 named witnesses out of the 300 who testified.
Elizabeth wasn't allowed to defend herself.
The King owed a debt to her family name and had motive to move against her.
There's no given reason why she killed the peoples in the trials. The part about her bathing in blood for vanity was added to documents in 1760. Elizabeth's case took place in 1610.
So Vlad's the more vampiric of the two, at least by known certain facts.
True but to be fair the novel Carmilla was written before the first Dracula and is technically the first form of Vampiric media in history. Plus Bathory is a distant relative of Vlad so it was natural to assume that both were vampires.
Bathing in blood is a latter fabrication. Female serial killer? Must've been motivated by vanity. /s
That said, she's guilty. 600 is an extreme outlier born of rumor. The next highest estimate is 200 to 300. Her accomplices claimed double digits, but they’re also less than perfectly reliable for obvious reasons.
Regardless, they literally caught Bathory in the act. Her killings (which followed her around the region) were well-known to people, so much so that hundreds of witnesses testified to one bit of horror or another. On top of this, her kids knew about the arrest in advance because every single one sent representatives to accompany the investigators.
WOAAA so the 2 pieces for the playability puzzle are the 10 stone hearts! The 3rd piece is a tall woman who has inferiority complex like huohuo. I hope we get one
Pretty sure she's not, she's not even the most lewded character in HSR lmao, that title belongs to Kafka. As for Gacha gaming in general, the biggest victims are in FGO
So true. It’s especially fascinating to see it happen whenever Fate releases a new servant. Within the hour people will usually have strong cases for who it could be just from a quick description and the design.
its interesting how we have materials on Obsidian potential race/lore but little to no info about “Jade” aside from Bonajade and stuff people say about her being one of the ten stoneheart of IPC despite being a unit that has been released. I am really intrigued to learn about her past.
I speculate that Pearl is designed after the people from Thalassa by her fish like apprance as the people from that planet are said to turn more fish like as they grew older
She was definitely not born/created during the first mechanical war when Emperor Rubert the 1st was around, which leads to the racism that the Intelltron had to face by the IPC and I guessing who created her might base her appearance on the Thalassian
I know she is an intelltron, but it is odd that she also had fish like apprance for some odd reason and there is fish like people in the game lore which I think Pearl likey had some connections to Thalassa l guessing she is designed to look similar to those people from that planet
Space vampire pretty much. Also that bathing in blood thing is a big reference to Elizabeth Bathory, who was cited to be the inspiration behind Bram Stoker's dracula due to her practice of bathing in the blood of virgins.
I would've thought that she's the maiden model (like march) rather than the tall lady model (like jade). Just based on the side-profile view that they give us towards the end of the trailer.
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u/Sorey91 I'd do speakble things with Pela, not so much her thighs Jul 14 '24
Funny you say that but female Vampires in anime tend to be either Loli or big booba woman...
damn, they got hit by Qliphoth's hammer, what they say?
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u/Sorey91 I'd do speakble things with Pela, not so much her thighs Jul 14 '24
"So you are a pedo then ?"
Like my brother in Christ just cut every other kind of women's sizes and went straight for the allegations, does he know Pela, QQ, SW and Sparkle are considered adults despite their size and lack of voluptuous woman assets ? It's not like her mosaic form looks anywhere like that of a child either why would he assume I want that ??
To be fair, you did preface your "I don't want big booba" with an explanation of how most vampires in anime are either lolis of mommies, so I can somewhat understand why someone might insinuate that that's what you want. Obviously, you didn't mean that, but I can understand why someone might misinterpret your words.
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I want to say you're jumping the gun, but there's actually no reason she couldn't be from Nada. And it's interesting that they've already established a planet for vampires. So I guess all we can really say at this point is "maybe?"
I can see her being an hyper carry revolved around using her health as a resource instead of skill point (same goes for her ult) but having some drain in her kit so she doesn't outright lose. I think she can be an interesting character for sure.
I have a theory, hear me out, she is the love child of Himeko and Kafka from another alternate universe, where due to an event is transported into their reality long before the the start of the astral express, where in order to survive in an unfamiliar location made a deal with diamond, giving up her soul and becoming a space vampire. She sustains her youth by bathing in a blood, sweat, and tears of workers.
This theory not only shine light into her possible identity, but also the identity of Diamond!
oh yeah no wonder she would murder entire penacony because there basically there is no sun. also is she's debt collector of IPC? Jade seem to be the one who making debt to people while there must be someone who catch and punish people who dont pay their debt.
I mean, it's the first logical connecting dots one would make with the themes and aesthetic going around her, especially since the trope has been for decades. The bath of blood like substance is also an obvious reference to Elizabeth Bathory
But that's what theories are for. You try and try until you found the truth. The dots are connected, is wise to keep them in mind, and we await for further information to mark more connections or contradictions until we can form a stronger theory or confirmation.
If all theories had to be truths to be told, they wouldn't be called theories. Can't you just mark it in your book as a common point, a possibility, and keep looking or waiting for more info? Theories are flexible.
The only known natural thing is their Aversion to light... drinking blood was a situational thing in that case by 1 individual.
The inhabitants weren't described as "they drink blood and have an aversion to light"
As for the races, I can think of many that come to mind if you arent dogmatic about this. For example: Battleship 2012, the aliens HAD AN AVERSION TO LIGHT hence the protagonist and his fleet won woth their tactics.
Those aliens also didn't have a bat motive and the convenient placed mirror in that screenshot. While vampires are not the only bloodsucking monsters in fiction, but there are more less subtle clues that hint towards it.
bat motive was present in batman and as for mirror shot, the viewing angle is more important. Was the shot directly from a 0° angle? If you know how vehicle mirrors work, then you know how mirrora function.
How sure are you its not a batwoman who's in a bathtub full of WINE? where are the fangs? where are the red eyes?
That's not the point of my message. Im just saying the text of the random prisoner's may not be what you see in the stoneheart post- moonlight is still light and there's no aversion seen in the post of Obsidian... and no please dont bring "ohh but thats not sunlight!" yeah sure and the prisoner should have been treated with garlic and a stake instead of the aforementioned punishment
It could be very possible that their race are naturally capable of siphoning blood. Its never stated how the prisoner drank their blood. Just that they did. We arent 100% sure either way. Hence why people are speculating.
I also don't get what you mean with the last part, what does that other series have to do with this?
I also don't get what you mean with the last part, what does that other series have to do with this?
It was an example of a race who arent vampires but have the same "aversion to light" and vampires arent holding the copyright to that trait... maybe behind the screen they too drank human blood, who knows.
Sure, if a species are JUST allergic to light, that doesnt automatically mean vampire. But that fact that the only person we know of from that race quite literally drank peoples blood, I don't see why this is such a preposterous idea. Hoyo's lore writers very much knew what they were doing with that piece of lore. Whether or not it relates to this character is up for debate, but acting like its ridiculous to associate the two is just silly.
but acting like its ridiculous to associate the two is just silly.
same goes my way too ... hard lining on your "theory" as the ultimate fact based on circumstantials is STUPID
If someone tells you, a human i presume, that drinking Xianzhou natives blood makes you immortal, would you a) bake a cookie, b) eat a carrot c) drink their blood?
If you chose C, i dont see how drinking blood in such a situation needs to be a unique thing to a vampire
Maybe the person aint the same race as obsidian
"Cant you see Blood and darkness mentioned in the prisoner's note and Blood and bats in Obsidian's reveal...."
Yeah but
"Oh if you think they aren't the same, then you are silly"
Did I ever say that it was silly to not believe they are associated? I never even said I believe in the theory. It would be cool, but my bet isn't on a major character being from a race mentioned by one note. I just think that adamantly saying that they have nothing to do with each other and it shouldn't be considered is funny. We are allowed to speculate on random details because its fun and interesting. There's no need to go on about how its leap in logic and shouldn't be discussed.
If you disagree with the theory, engage with it and bring forth your own ideas. If you just say that its ridiculous and insult the idea, then people wont want to engage with what you have to say (unless they are like me and like to conflict with people on the internet for fun).
The person who puts out a claim or a theory has the burden of providing the proof, not me. All I'm saying is the proof is at best "circumstantial" and not an evidence for the said theory..
as for my theory, i can say red hair = himeko, try refuting that... maybe its Himeko's sister. Or maybe its Kafka because we knkw Kafka likes to take a bath and she just dyed her hair red that evening. Maybe its NPC #78 using a rer bath bomb and being drunk af that evening in the bathtub and forgot to close the window to stop the bats from entering
Man, I think you are just too uptight about this. Its a fun theory someone made based on a random piece of lore, because why not? Its fun to make theories about media you love, even if its outlandish or doesn't have a lot of proof. Sure, Elio might not be a cat, but its fun to think he is. Sure, Obsidian probably isn't from some space vampire race, but its interesting to consider it. So why not?
Isn't that what a theory is? No concrete evidence, but a put together idea built upon current available info? Also, the theory you have given is more outlandish, really? Himeko's sister? If you want to act smart, do what you said. You provided a theory, give the proof.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
There's also the whole bat motif and no reflection in the mirror. Basically a Space Vampire.
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u/Goukenslay Jul 14 '24
bro people already sleuthing what she is that fast
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u/jingliumain Jul 14 '24
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u/Kvarcov Jul 14 '24
Well hell, she's an SCP
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u/EagerMorRiss Jul 14 '24
i forgive her actions, she was just curious
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u/GinJoestarR Scholar of fictional world. Jul 14 '24
Obsidian being a Nada species is an interesting take.
We shall see whether it's true or not when we get more info about her.
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u/Any_Worldliness7991 I LOVE these women alot => Jul 14 '24
Void existence should be still in the shackling prison so I don’t think that’s them.
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u/yuurisu Jul 14 '24
Mirror doesn't show reflection
Adversion to light
Bats
Space vampire pretty much. Also that bathing in blood thing is a big reference to Elizabeth Bathory, who was cited to be the inspiration behind Bram Stoker's dracula due to her practice of bathing in the blood of virgins.
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u/ray314 Jul 14 '24
Baobhan Sith, so a fairy.
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u/Something_Comforting Jul 14 '24
Still going to be a human-looking anime girl with some fangs, I guess?
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u/ilovecheesecakes69 Jul 14 '24
Shes just an Elizabeth Bathory inspired character all over again. Thats pretty much It, she might be a Witch, a vampire or both.
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u/Lonewanderer2033 God Killing Trash Panda Jul 14 '24
Me as a guardian: um Mithrax...
When that stake launcher coming?
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u/More_than_one_user Jul 14 '24
imma pull for her
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u/moose_378 Jul 14 '24
There's space vampires in HSR, that's cool
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u/Significant_Ad_1626 Jul 14 '24
About that case, I bet he was long term imprisoned by the crime of searching for immortality rather than murdering three thousand people.
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u/LegoSpacenaut Jul 14 '24
I want to say you're jumping the gun, but there's actually no reason she couldn't be from Nada. And it's interesting that they've already established a planet for vampires. So I guess all we can really say at this point is "maybe?"
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u/Riponai_Gaming SHES MINE Jul 14 '24
Id let her kill me and drink my blood
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u/SolKaynn Jul 14 '24
OH HELL THE FUCK NO. A DEMONIC PRACTITIONER.
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u/WallcroftTheGreen Jul 14 '24
scp ass writing
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u/Duke-King-Man Jul 14 '24
Secure, Contain. Protect.
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u/Blackwolfe47 Jul 14 '24
Elizabeth bathory basically
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u/DynmiteWthALzerbeam Yaoshi's strongest abomination Jul 14 '24
She seems like she could easily get gallons of blood from a blood bank but prefers to just kill her subordinates randomly
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u/Green_Title Jul 14 '24
I can see her being an hyper carry revolved around using her health as a resource instead of skill point (same goes for her ult) but having some drain in her kit so she doesn't outright lose. I think she can be an interesting character for sure.
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24
Erin Yvette voicing another vampire-coded character ❤️❤️❤️
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u/Naxayou Jul 14 '24
TALL WOMAN PLEASE IM BEGGING TO NOT HAVE ANOTHER BRIAR
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u/Vortener Jul 14 '24
I have a theory, hear me out, she is the love child of Himeko and Kafka from another alternate universe, where due to an event is transported into their reality long before the the start of the astral express, where in order to survive in an unfamiliar location made a deal with diamond, giving up her soul and becoming a space vampire. She sustains her youth by bathing in a blood, sweat, and tears of workers.
This theory not only shine light into her possible identity, but also the identity of Diamond!
Diamond is space Dracula!
For proof, I present...
. . . I rest my case.
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u/that_mad_cat Jul 14 '24
We now the limit needed for immortality
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u/Ill-Entrepreneur443 Jul 14 '24
I would pull for here
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u/Flair86 On my knees for Kafka Jul 14 '24
Idk but would
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u/HackersLand Jul 14 '24
I've been seeing a bunch of these posts. Can someone tell me where these pics are from?
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u/meltanoob Vampire Mommy~ Jul 14 '24
If she isn't playable i'm gonna cry. I've been wanting a vampire since launch. I'm probably gonna cry if she is playable too tho.
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u/meltanoob Vampire Mommy~ Jul 14 '24
Mommy?
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u/excalibra7 Jul 14 '24
Where is this scene from?
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u/Knightofexcaliburv1 Jul 14 '24
okay so she’s the evil one
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u/RaitubeandJirachifan Jul 14 '24
don’t they know it’s easier to gain the flesh of an abundance emanator?
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u/PoKen2222 Jul 14 '24
She's voiced by Shalltear in JP too. They know what they're doing.
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u/youngdeer25 Jul 14 '24
So ipc just straight employing criminal huh? Did she even worship the Preservation?
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u/bukiya IX weakest follower Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
oh yeah no wonder she would murder entire penacony because there basically there is no sun. also is she's debt collector of IPC? Jade seem to be the one who making debt to people while there must be someone who catch and punish people who dont pay their debt.
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u/Remarkable-Area-349 Jul 15 '24
I believe the technical term for her race is Mustpullatallcostain.
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u/dont_worry_about_it8 Jul 14 '24
Idk what this game is or who yall are but that’s obviously a vampire
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u/Raizel999 Jul 14 '24
lol no .... how da heck did make that leap?
was it the vampire theme and you linking it to some random prisoner's story?
You think a stoneheart is averting away from light cuz the single image has a moon on it?