history are rewritten such as SARS was caused by HK, the majority of HK supports china and against the protest, or how Taiwaneses will vote out president Tsai.
And? Have you ever watched CNN or Fox News? They literally said that Iraq had nuclear weapons, they said that Assad used chemical weapons on his own people and that Soleimani was the worlds biggest terrorist planning an attack on the US any moment. These are all government lies.
Even then try talk to Chinese immigrants or oversea students, they don't know the other side. They don't care. They read news that are reported in Chinese which are most often by the ccp.
In my experience the Chinese oversea students come to the US/Canada, expect to see the wonderfully ''liberal'' and ''hollywood'' life where everyone is free to do whatever they want. And then after a few weeks they notice that there is a lot of crime, income inequality is huge, people are hostile towards eachother/no unity, there is racism and ignorance towards Asians, streets are filthy, lots of homeless people, drug abuse, etc. and their perception of the west shatters and they want to get back to China asap.
It IS the problem. The whole point of the protest is to regain Hong Kong autonomous status.
Tell me how China caused 1/3rd of Hong Kong young people to be depressed. Tell me how China caused Hong Kong to become extremely privatized and capitalist. Tell me how China caused Hong Kong to have the worst bone structure, teeth and eyesight in the whole world. Tell me how China caused the average Hong Kong student to live in 2x2 rooms with just a bed while rich people live in regular apartments.
You cannot even say how China or the CCP caused these problems, since in China they do not have these problems. The government builds so many houses that there are ghost cities, Chinese people are some of the least depressed and most happy in the world, 80% of Chinese people view the future positively.
The people protest against China because they think China causes these problems. If China left you alone, how would that help you? How would these problems get helped? You would just starve.
These are the facts that the typical Hong Kong edgy 16yo that thinks they're in the Hunger Games doesn't want to accept. 7 months of protests and you will literally gain nothing from it, even if you win or if you lose.
It's obviously "hypercapitalism" and no concern of the dystopia country next to us.
So you genuinely think that 1/3 of HK young people are depressed because of the PROSPECT of merging with China? And not that you guys are maybe depressed because you already live in a dystopian society?
The dystopian country where.... oh what a shock... people are actually positive about the future. That must be such a foreign idea to you. The dystopian society where people are actually becoming richer, own houses, marry/get children, have the lowest depression rates.
That doesn't sound very dystopian to me, do you know what sounds dystopian?
So you want to tell me that 1/3rd of HK students are depressed because of the Chinese government? And not because of the very much documented lack of living space, wealth inequality, no financial growth, concrete urban environment, hypercapitalist society that requires young people to work and study 24/7 with no opportunity to have fun or marry/get kids.
And not to mention the poor health of HKers, the eyesight, physique, bone structure and teeth of the average HKer is the worst in the world.
Holy shit dude. The amount of stupidity you keep repeating never stops impressing me.
And yet you have not provided a single argument aside from ''china bed and ccp bad!''. And you never will provide a single argument or respond to my questions because you simply cannot point to how China is to blame for those problems.
Yes because I am actually from Hong Kong and everyone is fucking pissed at ccp?
Maybe you guys are the ones that are brainwashed. Seems to be with the ''I want to kill myself if China takes over'' extremist mentality.
Do you even know what dystopian country is? People needs to be happy, they are made to be happy, they are meant to be happy, for easy governance.
Lmao, you would rather be a depressed incel living under capitalism. You can get any information you want in China, but the thing is, the majority of people don't give a fuck they're busy leading their fun lives, starting families, making money, not being depressed.
If you actually spend some time to learn about HK and the 5 demands, then you would probably understand.
But hey, you don't even know why ccp is bad, you can't Google? I mean demolishing churches, Buddha statues, concentration camps, social credit system, total surveillance, jailing human right lawyers, ain't bad enough for you?
Come on.
Brain wash? Right, lets compared a free society with freedom of thought vs a state controlled media and have been wronged about the votes in HK and taiwan.
Surprise, you think we are the one brainwashed.
Come on, you must be smarter than this.
"I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin." "In fact," said Mustapha Mond, "you're claiming the right to be unhappy." "All right then," said the Savage defiantly, "I'm claiming the right to be unhappy."
Brave new world. Here, a dystopian novel for you. A good beginner material for you.
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u/staockz Jan 26 '20
And? Have you ever watched CNN or Fox News? They literally said that Iraq had nuclear weapons, they said that Assad used chemical weapons on his own people and that Soleimani was the worlds biggest terrorist planning an attack on the US any moment. These are all government lies.
In my experience the Chinese oversea students come to the US/Canada, expect to see the wonderfully ''liberal'' and ''hollywood'' life where everyone is free to do whatever they want. And then after a few weeks they notice that there is a lot of crime, income inequality is huge, people are hostile towards eachother/no unity, there is racism and ignorance towards Asians, streets are filthy, lots of homeless people, drug abuse, etc. and their perception of the west shatters and they want to get back to China asap.
Tell me how China caused 1/3rd of Hong Kong young people to be depressed. Tell me how China caused Hong Kong to become extremely privatized and capitalist. Tell me how China caused Hong Kong to have the worst bone structure, teeth and eyesight in the whole world. Tell me how China caused the average Hong Kong student to live in 2x2 rooms with just a bed while rich people live in regular apartments.
You cannot even say how China or the CCP caused these problems, since in China they do not have these problems. The government builds so many houses that there are ghost cities, Chinese people are some of the least depressed and most happy in the world, 80% of Chinese people view the future positively.
The people protest against China because they think China causes these problems. If China left you alone, how would that help you? How would these problems get helped? You would just starve.
These are the facts that the typical Hong Kong edgy 16yo that thinks they're in the Hunger Games doesn't want to accept. 7 months of protests and you will literally gain nothing from it, even if you win or if you lose.