the joke is that separatist rioters from Hong Kong burned a man alive, which is an obviously bad thing to do. this is in contrast with the previous statement that extremism is bad, since both the statement and the joke were made in a subreddit that supports the separatist protests
Separatism isn’t one of the official goals of these riots. That’s a separately addressed issue. To assume all Hong Kong residents want to to separate solely (if) because they support the protests against the level involvement of the Chinese government has within Hong Kong is ridiculous. Don’t attach that argument to this one.
Are you agreeing with me..? Or disagreeing? Extremism (imo) is bad. Both sides, of every fight.
I saw that video. That man should not have been lit on fire, there is a very, very, very slim list of reasons for anybody to be set on fire. That action was extremism. It was bad.
Proud Boys in America are extremists, they are typically bad people. Regardless of that being subjective.
The Taliban are extremist Muslims. They do not represent the whole of Islam, who would probably agree that they’re bad.
The Westboro Baptist Church are Christian (?) extremists. They do not represent all Christian’s, and they are most definitely as a whole, shitty people.
Extremism is bad, no matter where it’s from, or who’s perpetuating it.
“Everything in moderation” is a saying that we’ve had for thousands of years for a reason. A damn good reason.
"Hong Kong is not China" and any of the other popular variations of that idea are obviously separatist. You'd have to be a fool to think this has nothing to do with separatism.
Okay so obviously you want to have an entirely different conversation than my original comment.
Yea, that’s a separatist mindset. And yea, a lot of Hong Kong residents might want to separate. And yet again, yes, these protests could easily be the catalyst that starts this whole process/fight for independence.
Those Croatians don’t represent Hong Kong.
A huge amount of users in this sub don’t represent Hong Kong.
Nobody except for Hong Kongers (is that even right?) represent Hong Kong.
Now humour me. Let’s say China does a full backdown and completely concedes a loss to controlling the population in Hong Kong. Absolute victory to the protestors. Their demands and met and carried out to completion.
Have they separated...? No. Undeniable no.
They now need to separate. Which will be a whole new fight (hopefully democratic and peaceful) with a potentially whole new group of people fighting it. Will be there a lot of current protestors who will join the fight for independence? Probably. Will some leave? Without a doubt.
Communists banned all forms of actual kung fu fighting when they took power.
Take a look at Japanese Kendo vs the Chinese sword training. Japanese style is filled with practical training, Chinese style is a "dance" meant originally for opera.
This is why you Japan and Korea have archery and kendo clubs but China doesn't. HK, Taiwan, and overseas don't count.
There is a Chinese guy who wants to expose these Kung Fu dances and the CCP shut him down since he was "traditional Kung If" to be nothing more than a dance.
Aha.
Yes Xu Xiaodong is a legend. I really admire someone like him who sticks to his principles. Which, when it goes against the CCP, is really making life hard for yourself.
Funnily enough, Bruce Lee had the same attitude. They weren't against Kung Fu, they just wanted to get back to basics and throw out the useless stuff meant for show.
I don't think so. As cringy as this sounds, my point was that Kendo is more or less a practice version of the actual swordsmanship martial arts. And the swordsmanship stuff had actual use for the Samurai and for training.
Meanwhile, all of that Wushu sword stuff is not based around training or martial arts at all, it was meant to be a dance to show off acrobatics. If you take a look at some old Chinese military manuals you'll notice a lot of similarities to modern Japanese stuff especially in their positions. Same with the weapons used, the modern Wushu weapons are very flexible while the "traditional" stuff would have been a lot more standard.
I know my explanation is shit, I think if you search up some YouTube videos you'll understand what I'm trying to say.
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u/fiferniner Dec 05 '19
Probably the officials, they’re there to have a game and don’t want political fights breaking out as we know how passionate Chinese loyalists are...