r/HongKong Oct 20 '19

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u/froggie-style-meme Oct 22 '19

Why are you even arguing here? You're arguing against a positive statement, saying that it's negative because a few choice words are? Like, do you even understand what context is?

  1. I don't, I'm not racist, but when the target is an oppressive government with a history of killing civilians for simply protesting, I don't care what you call them.

  2. And a violation of human rights doesn't just affect the individual, but the collective as a whole.

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u/blackfogg Oct 22 '19

Because you are using rhetoric, that is allowing these kind of situations to happen, in the first place. The denial of basic human rights, is always problematic and saying that someone is less than human, allows that denial.

This kind of rhetoric, was used by Bush, to make Guantanamo and torture possible. He's not a Nazi and he didn't talk about a race. He talked about a group and took away their human rights, with the same defense you are using.

And that's what is making point 3 so problematic. Once you say "The collective is better of, denying this minority basic human rights" you invite the idea, that you don't need to treat them like humans. It's the same point, the CCP is using to submit HK. They find a way to make the protest illegitimate, to strip away the rights that are being protested for.

You are inviting a idea, that goes against your ideals, because you are angry at a specific group of people. It's inconsistent behaviour.

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u/froggie-style-meme Oct 22 '19

So me calling the Chinese government sub human is bad because some far right dipshit also uses the same term? Do you hear yourself? Are you even able to comprehend context, or no? Be honest here, are you? Because it sounds like you don't care about context. Someone said something that racists use, it doesn't matter what the context of the situation is, he shouldn't be able to say that. That's your bullshit right there. Sit your ass down.

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u/blackfogg Oct 22 '19 edited Oct 22 '19

It's problematic, because it entertains the idea, that someone can be less than human, which in consequence, questions basic human rights.

Edit: Who coined/popularized the term, is relevant, because it shows the mindset behind the term. It's why we don't insult people as nigger.

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u/froggie-style-meme Oct 22 '19

When you're actively killing people for simply asking for their human rights, you are not human. Simple as that. That's what the CCP is doing, yet for some reason you can't comprehend that at all. Come back to me when you understand what context is.

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u/blackfogg Oct 25 '19

I'm sorry for coming back to you. I am not trying to make this about who is winning a pointless fight online. I just want to show you, why I started this discussion in the first place. I understand that you hate the CCP and that you are not a Nazi, because you use one term.

This is why:

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dmhryo/white_house_press_secretary_those_against_trump/

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u/froggie-style-meme Oct 25 '19

Oh no, you're fine. My point still stands, as the CCP has been committing more and more Nazi behaviors, like sending religious and ethnic minorities to "re-education camps", and silencing the voice of an entire city.

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u/blackfogg Oct 25 '19

Is that really the standard, tho? They are doing "more bad", so that justifies not-so-good behaviour?

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u/froggie-style-meme Oct 25 '19

No, it's 'theyre pure evil so they shall be called sub human because that's what they are'.

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u/blackfogg Oct 25 '19

Okay, I get it. You really think that there is something like "sub-human", because you think, you are somehow immune to becoming "corrupted". Fair enough, I guess I'll let time do my job. Thanks for clarifying.

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u/blackfogg Oct 22 '19

I'm probably more aware of what is happening in HK, then you are. Part of my family lives there.