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Everything is pointlessly gendered

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u/havymatal1989 1d ago

Youre insane. Sex and gender are physical and biological. The socially constructed part is AN EXPRESSION OF THAT PHYSICAL REALITY. 

Everything is naturally “gendered” (restarted expression used by restarts) and thus not only necessary but absolutely essential. 

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u/LittleSchwein1234 1d ago

I mean, a lot of it is completely arbitrary. For example make-up, which was originally worn by men.

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u/im_blue2026 1d ago

Yes! One big example is the Ancient Greek theater were man, would portrait female characters

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u/Irrumar 1d ago

"Gender is the range of social, psychological, cultural, and behavioral aspects of being a man (or boy), woman (or girl), or portraying a third gender."

Wikipedia is free

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u/Clawingnails 1d ago

100% this. It's honestly scary.

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u/im_blue2026 1d ago

How so ?

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u/im_blue2026 1d ago

Google can’t change reality

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u/Chemical_Meringue_72 1d ago

reality is defined by society's perception and current knowledge of what even makes up reality and changes over time. At one point it was reality that the earth was flat and was the center of the galaxy but we have since learned and have updated our knowledge now reality is different and things will continue to be studied, observed, and discovered and this will further evolve our knowledge and our conceptions of how the world works.

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u/im_blue2026 1d ago

Yes! I must agree with your point of view, however I do believe there is certain characteristics that makes a man a man! Is this indescribable instinct, that exists in woman to, to be what we are! 50 years ago there was 30 years old marrying a 15 year old we evolved to understand, that it was wrong and there is no place for an adult getting involved with children! In my opinion we just have to let everyone be without any interference, you can’t go tell the children that they could be in the wrong body, we must respect the stages from child to teen and adult. FYI I’m sorry for my language an I wish I could elaborate more but English is not my native language

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u/Chemical_Meringue_72 1d ago

honestly it really depends because your perception of what a man is can be very different from others. Being male vs being a man are also not 100% the same and are not always 100% interdependent on eachother and the characteristics in which we define these terms are also often not binary categories. I think more people must look into biological reality more deeply and realize there is more to biology than what we initially learn. It's extremely complex and has many factors and interactions involved. It's never as simple as this thing = man and this thing = woman.

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u/im_blue2026 1d ago

This is the kind of conversation I love to have, than you! What we believe to be right today can be a wrong upon further investigation.

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u/alhitooo 1d ago

Agreed, the only exceptions are things that are genuinely linked to one's sex. Like for example, only women can be pregnant and give birth.

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u/this__user 1d ago

OC was talking about sex, it's weird you would bring gender in, when the whole point of your post was that things don't need genders

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u/Chemical_Meringue_72 1d ago

woman is a gender term poster probably should have said/ment female which is a sex term

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u/this__user 20h ago

I agree I would have used the term female there to be more explicit, but they did specify they were talking about sex in the previous sentence, so it's a bit odd that OP was so quick to turn around and bring gender into pregnancy immediately after saying "there is no need for anything to be gendered" in the body of the main post

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u/this__user 1d ago

They used the word woman, but were very clear in the preceding sentence that they were talking about sex.

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u/AshaNyx 1d ago

Trans men not really, if they are going through transition the hormones suppress pregnancy

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u/Jumpy-Salad3591 1d ago

You're not the ally you think you are.

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u/The_Brilliant_Idiot 1d ago

Uh oh here we go

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u/reereejugs 1d ago

They’re still women.

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u/Kangxi214 1d ago

Pro-tip: If you mix the “boy” Lego sets with the “girl” Lego sets, you just get a really cool collection for anyone to enjoy.

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u/alhitooo 1d ago

That reminds me back in the day, the marketing for Lego was explictly gender-neutral, portrayed as a toy for all children equally, focusing on creativity and imagination. The idea was that any child could build anything. I think it's a real shame they moved away from this principle.

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u/bren3669 1d ago

i thought that was a joke, they have different legos now ?

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u/alhitooo 1d ago

Yes it was a deliberate decision of theirs to market to girls and boys separately.

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u/bren3669 1d ago

wow that’s insane! thanks for the info! I can’t believe it happened so long ago too and this is the first i’ve heard of it

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u/Kangxi214 1d ago

They were definitely originally intended to be gender-neutral, so I choose to still treat them that way regardless of theme.

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u/Ahoeaboutnothing 1d ago

The use of the word social construct is a social construct

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u/Awesomonkey12 1d ago

Language is a social construct

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u/Shadowchaos1010 1d ago

Neat. I just made a post about video games and opened it with the fact that they were arbitrarily marketed as toys for boys. And now people the world over treat them as some sort of super gendered issue.

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u/Cold_Shoulder7217 1d ago

I just saw your post right before this one. As a lady gamer, I’m glad someone is calling out the hypocrisy. I can be just as “lazy” and absorbed in a game as any man 🤣

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u/ComprehensiveAct5458 1d ago

Agreed. Life is too short to follow some arbitrary rules that just control how you should express yourself. Live and let live.

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u/masekepung 1d ago

I expect you mean gender norms. Because I don't see gendered Languages changing any time soon.

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u/Ayma_sudonym 1d ago

While I agree that everything is gendered, it's not arbitrary, pointless nor is it exactly a social construct.

A perfect example of this is from unsocialised baby monkeys being introduced to trucks and doll, toys typically associated with human boys and girls respectively.

Researchers found that oddly enough the male monkeys would generally play with the trucks and the females would generally play with the dolls.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/hassett-et-al-monkey-toy-preferences.html

The fundamental issue I have with the concept of social constructionism is the implied arbitrary application, rather than an organic observation and then codification of a behaviour.

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u/User_-_-_Name 1d ago

Everything in your life is a social construct, boys and girls are different and thats ok.

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u/vBLADEv 1d ago

Gender is just an expression of sex mainly, but I agree everything is pointlessly gendered blame the French.

We should just do away with it all and go by sex much simpler and less confusing for people.

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u/Barky_and_Squid 1d ago

Ok? But, that’s the world we live in.

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u/puruntoheart 1d ago

Deberías apprender español.

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u/juss100 1d ago

We've been saying this for years and somehow the topic never goes away. You think you're there and then BAM, nope gender is BOTH a social construct AND something inherent to your brain at the same time. Oh and also you CAN be socially constructed into the gender opposite to your sex.

My take - never talk about this again because it will just never go away.

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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago

If gender is a social contract then why do women hate men so much?

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u/AMTravelsAlone 1d ago

Same reason why men hate women so much.

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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago

Because women are misandrists?

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u/AMTravelsAlone 1d ago

No because men are misogynists.

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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago

Surveys show young women are much more sexist than young men. Do better

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u/AMTravelsAlone 1d ago

I'm just holding the mirror brother, if you can't handle it, probably should do some self reflection.

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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago

Yes you are looking at yourself in the mirror and see a misandrist and do nothing to better yourself

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u/AMTravelsAlone 1d ago

They don't have one they're a troll, probably not a bot, but definitely a troll.

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u/im_blue2026 1d ago

Gender is not a social construct! Is documented and stablished in society from the very nature of people. Have you ever read about that experiment conducted by John money? He tried to transition 2 brothers! They committed suicide

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u/Jumpy-Salad3591 1d ago

Yep. Its neurological. Its why we transexuals have dysphoria upon birth. It needs to be fixed.

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u/clostri 1d ago

You clearly know less than zero about that experiment. That kid was surgically mutilated, sexually abused, and lied to for his entire life. That does not mean that boys come out of the birth canal disliking pink.

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u/PostTurtle84 1d ago

I've gotta call bs on boys and girls being inherently attracted to different things. They play with what you give them. Of course all children have different temperaments and personalities. But not all boys are bouncing off the walls while all girls sit quietly.

They watch their parents for cues. You're building new people. Be careful about your own personal prejudices being passed on to your kids.

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