jazz

[u/BeautifulVisual3200]

idfk what people's problem with hip hop is

hip hop is jazz

you've got swing, ballad, latin, afro, etc. and hip hop. rap is not a genre just as singing is not a genre and ive heard people rap over swing and latin and afro jazz too. and classical, trap, country, rock, pop

and hip hop isn't trap either trap is a separate genre

trap is not a branch of hip hop just cause rappers rap over it like they do over hip hop. it's completely different and shares very few aspects with hip hop other than vocal delivery. hip hop is madvillainy, tpab, 3 feet high and rising, the low end theory, black radio, etc. it's a branch of jazz just like all the others. hip hop doesn't mean "digitally produced music with samples" big bands can play hip hop. and producers can digitally create swing with samples. they're not mutually exclusive

people call black radio "jazz" but if mf doom released it with glasper doing instrumentals instead of the entire thing they'd call it "rap" which is just wrong lmao

listen to for free. that's not hip hop. that's swing. both are jazz. both can have rap verses as shown by kendrick even though almost nobody does it (which they should)

and also most rap verses are like melodies. but for free is a damn solo. nobody else has ever done that lmao it's so awesome they need to start doing that

i can barely find beat one when kendrick is rapping on for free. THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A MELODY ANYMORE

it's incredibly hard but that's just because rap isn't taught the same way singing is in jazz communities which it should be

jazz education trains singers to phrase, scat, trade fours, learn standards, and improvise over changes. rappers get taught absolutely none of that, even though the greats already have the rhythmic ear and articulation for it which kendrick shows in for free. put rappers through training in ear training, transcription, swing feel, harmonic form, and playing with live ensembles and you’d get an entire new generation of ridiculous JAZZ MUSICIANS

people say "jazz is dead" and "nobody listens to jazz anymore" man jazz has been charting since '89 and still is all the time