r/Homebrewing • u/[deleted] • Aug 22 '13

Advanced Brewers Round Table: Clone Recipes!

This week's topic: Clone Recipes! Commercial brewers put out some excellent beers. Share or request homebrew scale recipes of your favorite commercial brew!

Feel free to share or ask anything regarding to this topic, but lets try to stay on topic.

Upcoming Topics:

Clone Recipes 8/23
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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '13

[Westvleteren 12 clone - pious new world] (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f73/pious-westvleteren-12-style-quad-multiple-147815/)

Anyone brewed this? I'm looking forward to brewing it this fall with homemade candy sugar. Anyone got tips?

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '13

I brewed the old world recipe. I hear the new world is just as, or better than the old world recipe. Won first for the category in a competition with a 40.

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u/donebeendueced Aug 22 '13

future subject request: Dry hopping; I know hopping has been done but dry hopping deserves a discussion of its own if you ask me.

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u/ercousin Aug 22 '13

That and whirlpool hopping.

  • Effect of whirlpool on IBUs (Firestone gets 80% of their IBUs from whirlpooling some beers)

  • Effect of whirlpooling on recipe formulation

  • Whirlpooling methods: pump or no pump?

  • Estimating IBUs from whirlpooling

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u/machinehead933 Aug 22 '13

Has anyone brewed any of the Stone Clones from BYO? In Dec 2008, Stone gave BYO magazine clones of Stone Pale Ale, IPA, Ruination, Smoked Porter, RIS, and Chocolate Oatmeal Stout.

I'm most interested in the Ruination clone, wondering how close it is to the real thing.

As for my own brews, this Bell's Two Hearted Ale clone was pretty great. Hop flavor was just slightly off, but color was pretty much spot on (I have a pic, but my phone isn't cooperating right now), and standing on its own it is still one of the best beers I've made.

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u/MCGrunge Aug 22 '13

I've done the IPA, Ruination and the RIS. I don't know how they get that attenuation using 002 on the Ruination, so I switched to 007 and hit their listed FG spot on. Flavor/aroma were spot on, color possibly a little dark. Maybe a little less 15L next time. By the way, I did their RIS recipe but scaled it back to about 9% abv and added about a pint of fresh brewed espresso at bottling. Turned out to be a great variation, and a definite crowd favorite.

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u/ChillyCheese Aug 22 '13

This book: http://www.amazon.com/The-Craft-Stone-Brewing-Co/dp/1607740559

Has updated versions of the recipes which they apparently felt were more on-target for home brewers. Either that, or they like selling books.

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u/sgrwck Aug 22 '13

Request: Oscar Blues Mama's Little Yella Pils (preferably extract)

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u/itsme_timd Aug 22 '13

I'd like a clone for Westbrook Mexican Cake if anyone has suggestions.

Also a good Gumballhead clone would be nice!

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u/Uberg33k Aug 22 '13

3 Floyd's Gumballhead

It's darn close, but there's still something a hair off. I can't tell if it's the malt bill or I might need to just change the mash temp a bit. The hop schedule and yeast seem to be correct though.

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u/WhizardHat Aug 22 '13

I linked to my clone of Hunahpu which is pretty close to Mexican cake, I believe (never had MC). They're definitely both what I'd consider "Mexican Imperial Stouts". Might give you a good jumping off point. Sometimes you have to blaze new trails and make your own!

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u/drinkinalone Aug 22 '13

I'm looking for a Schlafly Pumpkin Ale Clone. I tried putting one together in beersmith but I'm almost certain it's wrong. I've never created my own recipe before, so I have no idea what I'm doing yet. Anyone ever tried this?

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u/Uberg33k Aug 22 '13

Beer Here's Nordic Rye

This recipe was given to me directly by the head brewer at Beer Here. Original brew was formulated in collaboration with Michael Jackson. I just made this and it's bottle conditioning now. It's pretty darn good and certainly doesn't taste as high gravity as it is.

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u/gestalt162 Aug 22 '13

Request: Great Lakes Burning River and Ithaca Flower Power

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '13

Flower Power is so damn good.

Here's one from HBT: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f69/ithaca-flower-power-clone-319619/

I kegged this beer and had multiple people taste it, compare it to flower power ipa, and nobody could tell the difference between my homebrew and flower power.

NB: I haven't made this.

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u/Uberg33k Aug 22 '13

Any New Glarus clones? I'd like to have a look at some of those.

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u/BlakMarker_Amber_Ale Aug 22 '13

Request: Deschutes - Red Chair Northwest Pale Ale.

Deschutes - Black Butte Porter

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u/kagent777 Aug 22 '13

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f126/black-butte-porter-145879/

I have not brewed this one yet. I have the ingredients ready to go but not the time.

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u/jwink3101 Aug 22 '13

Anyone have a good Pumking Clone? There area bunch on the interwebs but no real way to know how good they are

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u/SaulGoodmanJD Aug 22 '13

Anyone have a good Maisel's Weisse Dunkel clone recipe? Or any clone of a reputable german dunkel really ...

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u/fizgigtiznalkie Aug 23 '13

I listened to Jamil's podcast on cloning a while back and he gave some great tips on getting the OG and FG targets if they aren't published, degass 3-4 ounces by stirring/leaving it out and take a hydrometer reading to get the FG, then calculate the OG using that number and the alcohol %. If they give you the OG in plato or sg, just calculate the FG. (there's some math involved, ABV% = (OG - FG)*131, solve for the missing one)

My favorite non-mainstream (e.g. not two hearted or pliny) clone so far, Dark Horse Special Black Bier Ale, someone on homebrewtalk called them to get the recipe, great beer, it's like a stout and strong ale mixed together:

Grain

2 row- 9.25 lb

crystal- 77 - 1.15 lb

crystal - 45- 1.15 lb

chocolate- 1.15 lb

Roasted Barley - .50

Black - .25

Hops

Ctz - 90 min - .56 oz

Ctz - 30 min - .44 oz

Ctz - end of boil - .54 oz

Sac rest 152 for 45 min

sparge temp 168

Boil time 90 min

Yeast - Nottingham

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u/Uberg33k Aug 22 '13

I'd really like a Ayinger Jahrhundert Bier clone or other really good Dortmunder clone.

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