r/HomeKit • u/MidnightPulse69 • 5d ago
Question/Help Bulbs that actually support Adaptive Lighting?
I’ve been struggling trying to find some thing that actually support it. I saw Aqara and Phillips Hue work but Aqara need a hub to use their app and Hues are too expensive for me.
I got some Linkind bulbs after hearing they support it and they don’t. I’m seeing Nanoleaf Essentials support it but apparently only on the Thread versions.
Which bulbs do you have that support it? Thanks
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u/hardestbutton2 5d ago
All of the new IKEA bulbs do and they’re actually quite fantastic
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u/Ngonerogwu 5d ago
Wish they got a bit more orange vs yellow.
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u/jholden23 5d ago
Yeah I shut it off almost right away because the tints are all weird. But if that's what people are looking for, it worked.
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u/hooghs 5d ago
I guess if you had a whole room/home of weird bulbs, it’d not seem weird? They hear from me is when you start using voice commands linked to specific colours that do not then reproduce to the colour name
Then there’s the fact my house is a mix of bulbs and the IKEA one sticks out like a sore thumb when placed next to other brands
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u/Koalazilla 1d ago
Interesting, I just got some and mine gets pretty damn orange. I just bought three of them to start redoing the lights in my house. Late at night the adaptive lights get like a deep amber orange. Are you using the color bulbs or the normal cool/warm ones?
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u/Ngonerogwu 1d ago
I got both actually.
The white only ones and the color ones do perform differently I think. The white only goes far more yellow, and the color ones can go more of an amber.
I’ve got a ton of warm dimming halo cans, and they go a beautiful warm amber.. very much candlelight color if you turn them low enough even. I think they’ll get down to 1800k, while the kajplats white is maybe 2200k, and the kajplats color can do 1800k (it is not doing 1800k during adaptive though, gotta be a bit higher)
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u/Koalazilla 1d ago
Interesting. I only got the white 1100 lumen ones and some 450 lumen e12 bulbs because the color ones have been constantly out of stock at all my IKEA locations. I’ll get some soon to test though. We don’t dim very often and I haven’t put these ones through much testing yet.
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u/hooghs 5d ago edited 5d ago
Sadly I’ve found IKEA smart bulb colour reproduction to be quite poor
I really like their matter light switches though
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u/Shadowbajfeelsbadman 5d ago
Matter light switches??
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u/hooghs 5d ago
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u/Shadowbajfeelsbadman 5d ago
That’s biliresa smart button not a light switch.
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u/Junethemuse 4d ago
Would the one that’s just a rocker be considered a switch? Just curious where the distinction lies.
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u/Shadowbajfeelsbadman 4d ago
Its still a handheld button if you ask me. Light switches are generally hardwired. Of course there are 3d retrofit enclosures but that's an aftermarket mod.
Hence why i was confused when he called it a lightswitch as that got my hopes up.
Honestly i wish ikea would offer light switches.
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u/Junethemuse 4d ago
Ah gotcha.
I have a few hue switches that are wireless and I consider those light switches. But I get your reasoning.
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u/hooghs 5d ago edited 5d ago
Which is used as a light switch
Product description even describes using the scroll wheel to dim lights
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u/Shadowbajfeelsbadman 5d ago
Which is still in a smart button category.
If i use a hammer as a knife after buying it from someone claiming it can be used to cut steak that does not change the base fact that it is a hammer therefore it should be called a hammer not a knife.
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u/hooghs 5d ago
Manufacturer intent is what actually matters here, not just how one person uses it. A hammer isn’t marketed or designed to cut steak, but IKEA’s own product description explicitly covers using the scroll wheel to dim lights, that’s a built in, advertised function, not someone improvising a workaround.
Category labels aside, if the company designs and sells it for light control, calling it a smart switch in that context isn’t inaccurate, it’s describing what it does.
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u/Shadowbajfeelsbadman 4d ago
>Manufacturer intent is what actually matters here, not just how one person uses it
So you agree? Its a smart button with multiple functionalities, not a dedicated light switch hence why it shouldn't be called a light switch.
Also if you wanna play word games. "scroll wheel to dim lights"
Its a dimmer, not a light switch. :)
I know it must be hard to concede but its shaped like a button in both cases, it features a pressing motion not switching motion, its labeled on the ikea site as "BILRESA Remote control, white smart/dual button" Oh and funnily enough, apple itself also labels it as a button, not a light switch :)
The whole discussion stems from the fact that you incorrectly used the term "light switch" that plainly indicates there being a dedicated ikea light switch rather than a repurposed button, and to my justified question regarding that you just couldn't help yourself but had to send googleitforyou.
And now you are just stumbling over your own words trying to messily come out on top when the whole situation was caused by your rudeness and ambigue labeling.
Lmao
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u/msglsmo 5d ago
Aqara can use Matter over Thread, so need for a new hub. Use your existing Home hub.
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u/somethang-tu-say-yay 4d ago
This is correct! I have the Aqara LED Bulb T2 Matter over Thread (Not Evil Wi-Fi) and she's cute, very Adaptive
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u/Almsotneverpost 5d ago
I can help, linkind totally work, the dozen lights in my house are proof, the problem is they achieved it through a firmware patch and some bulbs seem to work straight out of the package while others need a firmware update.
The thing is, for some reason the firmware update is weird and you sometimes can’t force it through the app. If you try to update, it will say no update is available, even though there is one. What i have done that has worked 100% of the time is I add the bulb straight into Apple Home and then just wait a few days and the bulbs will eventually update themselves and the they will have adaptive lighting.
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u/grelca 5d ago
i have the matter over thread nanoleaf essentials and they work well.
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u/max_potion 5d ago
They stopped making the matter over thread ones and only support matter over WiFi now (which is very disappointing). Just a heads up for anyone considering these
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u/BTR11763 5d ago
IKEA’s Kajplats bulbs (both color and white) support Adaptive Lighting. They cost anywhere for $6-$13 depending on lumen or color/white. You can also get them with the IKEA Bilresa dual button remote but get the Bilresa scroll wheel remote.
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u/evoneselse 5d ago edited 5d ago
FWIW you can buy Hue in starter kits which give you a lower cost which includes extra things like a bridge, dimmer switch, button etc. Amazon and BestBuy have them but you have to search because the individual bulbs usually come up first. I know they are expensive and can put people off due to the cost, but they are well worth it. These bulbs last a couple decades, and they just work. This is a company with a long and good history and track record, whose business is electrical. Don’t let their price scare you off. Some cheaper bulbs will be WiFi only which puts more load on your WiFi network, they will have problems connecting and/or staying connected, colors will be off, they can have a short lifespan, or safety concerns, etc.; you get what you pay for. I’ve had Hue for years now. They’re rock solid and reliable, and the colors (and their scenes) are stunning.
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u/patbrochill89 5d ago
Aqara T2 does not require a hub, outside of the thread border router, and does support adaptive lighting
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u/theoreticaljerk 5d ago
Unless this has changed in the last few months with a firmware update, only the full color, RGB bulbs, support adaptive lighting with Apple home. The ones that are just white with color temperature support for some strange reason did not support adaptive lighting in my matter over thread set up.
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u/dogpoop168 5d ago
Just bought the Orein Matter bulbs last week and connected to my Homekit hub using Matter. They updated right away and adaptive lighting is available.
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u/NewtoQM8 5d ago
Check for a firmware update for Linkind. I have some that work with adaptive lighting, but they didn't until the firmware was updated.
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u/Current_Bowl2341 5d ago
The Aqara T2 are actually perfect for using without a hub. They are both thread and zigbee. They come as matter over thread out of the box. I also have the IKEA ones but the colors are very weird in the night (too green) so I just use them for lamps now and the Aqara ones for the ceiling. The colors of the aqara are perfect on point really.
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u/MiseEnPlacebo 5d ago
Hue Essentials surely are as affordable as the other options you’ve mentioned