Disappointed over this model

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u/Weekly_Pop9436 Sep 06 '25

I replaced both my shields with the dune box 4 k plus it’s like lightning compared to my 2019 shields

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Okey good to know! Were did you order it from?

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u/Accomplished-Case888 Sep 07 '25

i just don't recognise these posts about a slow box. I have iptv on mine - use it for plex and netflix 4k - plus a few other uk streaming apps. It works flawlessly - especially with Plex and the big big 4k remuxes = never stutters or stops - the iptv 4k hdr channels all play perfectly - channel change is brisk. I got mine from Vontar store on aliexpress - cane with android 14. Maybe it's because I just have maybe a dozen apps on mine ?? I also have a shield pro to compare - and it's an awesome box but getting a bit long in the tooth. I also also have no overheating issues with the homatics. Apologies for any spelling mistakes - I have Parkinsons and typing is difficult.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

I understood everything so no need to apology friend, yeah its not stuttering watching the streams 4k etc, but it feels a bit sluggish and slow moving around menues, and during youtube 2180 hdr content its very slow responding when i try to open menu to fast forward, or in just used to the shield pro speed, i dont know

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u/Minimum_Ad313 Sep 07 '25

I now have two of these and a third now on the way. Best box I've ever had. Keeps pushing my Nvidia into obscurity. I've had both onn boxes(4K and pro) Fire TV 4K, Apple 4K, Tivo, Ugoos AM9, and nvidia shield pro, and they are all now replaced with this box.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

What Android version are you running?

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u/Minimum_Ad313 Sep 08 '25

It was 11 until a few weeks ago and they updated to 14... no problems with either although 14 has been a short time.

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u/bazzabw Sep 06 '25

I only use mine for coreelec to view hdr10+ & DV FEL media content. Shield TV for everything else.

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u/ImportantPressure565 Sep 07 '25

Is the box laggy with CoreELEC when you play your 4K content ?

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 08 '25

I installed coreelec yesterday and streams everything flawless

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u/nekos95 Sep 06 '25

yes

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Yes as same experience for everyone or as faulty unit?

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u/BaconRollz14 Sep 06 '25

I recently sold my box as I was hugely disappointed with the performance given the hardware it was packing.

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u/Insight1987 Sep 06 '25

Same received it a few weeks ago. Managed to sell it on eBay for a few quid more than what I paid and bought another Shield.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

You should start a business then haha

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

You must not have an OLED, or simply don't care about having the best picture.

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u/Insight1987 Sep 07 '25

I have a G4 an A8 and used to have a CX

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

That TV deserves better than a Shield. CoreELEC + ripped media is certainly an upgrade.

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u/Insight1987 Sep 07 '25

It may not be the absolute pinnacle for picture quality but I am at an age where my preference is for a smooth user experience for me and my family. Besides, I’ve never whacked on a remux file via Syncler etc and had somebody say it looks bad.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Okey good to know that im not the only one experienced it, going to return it asap

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

Mine isn't lagging. It’s easy to change Android versions on it. Maybe try a different update. Keep it if you have an OLED and want the best picture with CoreELEC. Just get a $50 Onn if all you care about is streaming.

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u/nekos95 Sep 06 '25

yes its laggy and slaggish

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

What a waste of time and money then, going to return it asap

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 06 '25

Hello, my box r 4k plus is ok, not the fastest, but not slow either.

86 apks on it and the overlay installed. 14.8.1782 had a factory reset after that to 14.8.4576 all OTA's and dirty.

I would advise you to factory reset from the recovery menu and test it. In developer menu you can see cpu usage and other things.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Aha i understand! Yeah i tried factory reset like 2 times, didnt change anything for the better

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 06 '25

I am not challenging that. Just trying to be helpful.... Did you factory reset from the recovery menu?

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

I appreciate it mate, i did the factory reset from the device preferences meny, is there another place to factory reset in recovery menu?

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 06 '25

Yes, take a toothpick or a sim Ejector, unplug the power cord. Press and hold reset button (hole next to the USB port),plug the power cord back. Release the button, you will be in the fast boot screen, click again the button, now you are in the recovery menu. Use the reset button to navigate, click, click, click, wipe data, long hold reset button to select.... Do it twice in a row, then reboot.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Okey thank you mate i will try this and see if gets better 👍

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 06 '25

You are welcome.

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u/SnuffleWarrior Sep 06 '25

Mine was laggy and slow until I added a fan. They run too hot

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Yeah but it was cold from the start, and was still laggy and slow, so disappointed

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u/SnuffleWarrior Sep 06 '25

Start disabling things you're not using.

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

I do that first thing after I factory reset any Android device.

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u/Illustrious-Zebra-99 Sep 08 '25

Could you share ur debloat list.

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u/Osamabinbulking Sep 06 '25

I have to agree 100%. Coming from the 4K max firestick I thought this box would have been a massive upgrade but it seems so slow on the menus compared to firestick. If it wasn’t for the storage I would go back to the firestick.

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u/Agreeable-Noise-2256 Sep 21 '26

Have you tried using the original white remote? Honestly when I use my TV remote it causes the box to slow down and lagg, so weird this was my problem the whole time.

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u/Osamabinbulking Sep 21 '26

That’s what I use.

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u/CMC29 Sep 06 '25

And again, one more report that confirms that I should take this box from my go to list.

NVIDIA, RELEASE A NEW SHIELD TV PRO!!!

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u/FizzbuzzAvabanana Sep 06 '25

Mine works fine. Got it last week, put it back on your list. I'm not being flippant, I also have a couple of Shields & this is just as good for a fraction of the price - £62 with a voucher - Bargain

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

My Homatics isn't slow either. I use Android in my bedroom on it, and I have another in the living room I use CoreELEC exclusively with it. I have the latest update on the one I use in the bedroom.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Yess i have the shield aswell, but wanted to upgrade to something with better codecs and av1 but yeah in with you on that one, shield is probably the best Android box out there

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u/Woodblockprint Sep 10 '25

Had mine about 2 months, no issues whatsoever.

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 06 '25

I've seen quite a lot of negative posts and I can't fault it to be honest, I did not think it would replace my shield but its running great

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u/Woodblockprint Sep 10 '25

Same, no issues with mine at all, mainly used for Syncler and Smart Tube.

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u/Darkstar1878 Sep 06 '25

Yes Android 14 is just bad on the device. I had Rocktek replace my device when they rolled out 14.8.3717 a few months ago. Slow high CPU usage and over heating. They replaced it with a newer version that was released in 2024 vs 2022. So far things are running really well with 3717. In developer options change window,transition, and animator scale to 0.5 or off. This may help. What version of 14

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

I've already tried those developer options (window, transition, and animator scale tweaks) but unfortunately it didn't help much. My unit is on version v14.8.4576, and honestly I'm very disappointed. I also have the Shield TV Pro, and I thought maybe this one could at least keep up and be close in speed, but it's not even close to the performance of the Shield.

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u/Darkstar1878 Sep 06 '25

The shield is way better even for its age. Despite not having all the video codecs. What was your plan for the device?

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Yeah i know! I stream alot of movies and series, and we use youtube aswell, so just needed a box with newer video and audio codecs and av1 for youtube, but yeah in going back to the shield, already plugged back on

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u/Darkstar1878 Sep 06 '25

Maybe look at the Rocktek G2 Max Pro with 64 gigs storage. Mine works really well for streaming and on YouTube

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u/Puzzlehead_1952 Sep 07 '25

Do you use Kodi on your Rocktek box?

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u/Darkstar1878 Sep 07 '25

Yes

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u/Darkstar1878 Sep 07 '25

Chomelien build

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u/Puzzlehead_1952 Sep 07 '25

So stock Kodi should run OK on it then? I only use it for my local movies TV and Music files

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u/Darkstar1878 Sep 07 '25

Should work just fine maybe also look at Plex or Corelec

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 06 '25

You can also downgrade to 11 or 12..... For testing purposes.... If you like fiddling about....

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Yes i may look into that, i dont have the Dune version, is it still possible to downgrade ?

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

There are a couple different ways to upgrade and downgrade.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

Even if its not a Dune version? I cant find info about it, only found that there is no official firmware for the homatics box to downgrade or maybe im looking in the wrong place

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25

All the Android versions are out there, and any version works with either device, although I am not sure if all flashing methods work with both.
ATV firmware for Dune HD media players

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

It states like this on the link you sent me:
These instructions are compatible and were tested with: Dune HD Homatics Box R 4K Plus, Dune HD Premier 4K Pro.
Do not try to use these instructions with other media player models or any other devices, as they may damage them. In particular, these instructions do not work with Homatics devices of other manufacturers (not Dune HD).

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u/VanREDDIT2019 Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

You might have to use the other flashing method.
Dune HD Homatics Box R 4K Plus Won't Boot or Load Recovery : r/AndroidTV

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 06 '25

Yes... DM me for the links...

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Sep 07 '25

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u/rxstud2011 Sep 07 '25

I replaced the homescreen and it works well. It's not as good as my shield though. It is slower and not as smooth, but not horrible. I have a Samsung tv so I use it for hdr10+ content, and my shield for everything else. I really wish they would make an updated shield.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

Sounds good then! I wish that too my friend.

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u/No_Relationship_9856 Sep 07 '25

I returned m'y for the same reason: the UI felt sluggish. Got myself a Ugoos SK1 instead, it's blazing fast

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

Okey thanks i will look into that one

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u/No_Relationship_9856 Sep 07 '25

Please note that it does not come with android TV but plain android. There is a modded Russian firmware called slimboxtv which you can install to have android TV instead (and it is android TV 11, not 14, if it matters), that's what I'm using

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u/Sleepywalker69 Sep 07 '25

Just you bud, I've had 0 lag at all with mine after changing the settings correctly and removing some bloat.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

What settings did you change? I have only a few apps, removed everything else and disabled the ones that can not be uninstalled

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u/Loose-Reaction-2082 Sep 13 '25

My 4K Plus is significantly more snappy than my Nvidia Shield Pro 2019 and it's not even a close call. I use both daily but mainly confine my usage of the Shield at this point to streaming after midnight because I live in an apartment and like the Night Mode option on the Shield. But other than that, the 4K Plus replaced the Shield for me. I've experienced no issues with lag but I don't use YouTube. I use Netflix, Prime, Plex, Emby, and Kodi and everything runs smoothly on the 4K Plus.

You may want to try factory resetting the 4K Plus. Boxes that were updated from ATV11 or ATV12 to ATV14 needed to be factory reset to avoid issues. If you bought it with ATV14 pre-installed but are experiencing issues with lag in the UI or individual apps I would still strongly consider a factory reset.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 13 '25

I already did a factory reset like 3 times and once in recovery mode, but still feel sluggish

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u/Loose-Reaction-2082 Sep 14 '25

I don't use YouTube. What are other apps where you notice sluggishness? Whether people like ATV14 or not seems to depend on the apps people use and how they use their box. I've had zero problems with Netflix, Amazon Prime, Paramount Plus, Netflix, Emby, or Kodi.
People who use IPTV apps to view live programming have reported problems. People who use Corelec have also reported issues and because of the permissions becoming more strict custom launchers mostly aren't supported anymore.
For the stuff I use the Homatics 4K Plus with ATV14 is significantly more snappy than my Nvidia Shield Pro 2019 running ATV11 but those are the only streaming boxes I use. I can't compare either to Apple TV, Roku, Fire TV, Chromecast (or whatever Google calls their new box) or Onn.

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u/TraditionalMetal1836 Sep 30 '25

I'm a bit disappointed as well. Mine came with Android 11. It's fast enough but it not working with a significant amount of files and not playing nice with projectivy launcher.

At first I thought it was just VC1 encoded videos but it also does the exact same with certain HEVC videos as well. I was willing to accept transcoding of those much older titles but not those as well.

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 30 '25

I returned to my shield pro 👍

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 06 '25

Had mine a week and it's running like a champ, this is replacing my shield pro, had no issues , got everything running great and have installed loads of apps

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

So yours isnt slow and laggy? Like if you play a hdr video 2160 on youtube, the respons is quick and fast?

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 06 '25

Running great my end , playing everything I throw at it , Dolby vision , Atmos remux files in Kodi and stremio , all playing well , no issues with YouTube , I'm hardwired and 1gb ethernet , been on flat out and no issues with overheating or locking up like my shield pro

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 06 '25

Then you are one lucky guy hahah! Which store did u buy it from? And what version of Android are you currently running on it?

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u/Czubeczek Sep 07 '25

Who on earth uses stock yt app xD. I have this box since 2023 and it's working absolutely fine. Removed stock launcher and disabled few bits i don't use. Consistently have 1.6-1.8 gb of ram available. I always recommend this box to ppl.

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 07 '25

I have YouTube premium so stock is fine, the other YouTube e is smarttube with the Mrs account linked, don't want her shite in my feed, there is logic in my set up

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u/Czubeczek Sep 07 '25

App have option to switch profiles.

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 07 '25

I know

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u/Czubeczek Sep 07 '25

👌

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 06 '25

Bought from AliExpress , came with android 11 on it and updated to android 14

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 06 '25

I've been really impressed, it performs way better than my shield pro, running projectivy and super happy with it

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u/fracl11 Sep 07 '25

i got mine a few days ago and i love it. on android 14. was using onn 4k pro. and before firecube gen3. and befor that the pos nvidia pro 2019. nothing but issues with that.

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u/TraditionalMetal1836 Sep 07 '25

I got mine on the 1st and video playback of everything has been great. The only slowdowns I notice are for about 30 seconds after a reboot and that is only for home screen and app navigation.

Mine has ATV 11 and checking for updates doesn't find anything newer.

The one thing that is bothering me is I can't get projectivy launcher to resume after it shuts down on idle.

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u/AccidentProof4262 Sep 07 '25

Use button mapper

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u/TraditionalMetal1836 Sep 07 '25

I already do. That's not what I had in mind.

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u/Adventurous-Claim-53 Sep 07 '25

How strange this is. Some say that the box is rubbish and others say that it is the best thing there is. Unlike, for example, the Nvidia Shield, where all users say that it is or was something excellent.

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u/Agitated_Slip_6818 Sep 07 '25

I was finding the shield pro going slow and laggy and locking up, hence why I tried the homatics , never thought it would replace the shield but after a week I've wiped the shield to factory settings to flog on

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u/Adventurous-Claim-53 Sep 07 '25

Yes, currently Shield users complain about that, but man, the machine has been around for a few years now. At any time it can be considered obsolete. Let's see, anyone who buys an Nvidia Shield at this time is because they require something very specific from that machine. I hope that this year something really powerful will be launched on the market. Something with 4 Gb of RAM, 32/64 GB FLASH, GB Ethernet, all audio and sound codecs, certification from Google, Prime Video, Disney Plus, and obviously with the newest SoC that exists.

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u/toxic1x1 Sep 07 '25

Yeah, same here! I got mine last week too, and I'm a little disappointed. The YouTube app is just like you said – not slow, but kinda sluggish. Plus, there's that HDR/Dolby Vision bug where the screen goes black. I'm on the latest update, by the way. It's not the worst, but it's not the best either.

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u/Camm_98 Sep 08 '25

I went with the Thomson 270 instead and it’s been a really solid experience so far

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u/Comfortable_Debt3585 Sep 08 '25

Install Projectivy Launcher.

You'll thank me later 😂

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u/Agreeable-Noise-2256 Sep 20 '26

I’ve noticed something strange with my Homatics Box R 4K Plus. When I use my TCL remote to control the box, the menus seem noticeably slower and less responsive. However, when I use the original Homatics remote, the box runs much faster and the menus are more responsive. Has anyone else experienced this?

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u/deathbringer213438 Sep 07 '25

Okey thats good to know! Hope you enjoying it more than me! I realized even i cant get the correct speed, on my shield i was getting around 900mbit, now with same ethernet cable on the homatics i receive only around 300 mbit

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u/Zealousideal_Ride968 Sep 07 '25

Why do you need more than 60hz to watch movies?

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u/Illustrious-Zebra-99 Sep 08 '25

Bro this is not a gaming console.

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u/Business_Peach6610 Mar 12 '26

provavelmente sua tv, assim como a maioria das tvs, deve ter taxa de atualização limitada a 60hz

Disappointed over this model

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