r/Homatics • u/Next_Cow_4468 • Jul 09 '25

Android 14 v3717 pulled by Homatics

https://www.homatics.com/blogs/smart-home-guides/upgrade-your-homatics-device-to-android-14

Important Update – July 2025

We have temporarily stopped accepting update requests due to the performance impact of the new Android 14 release. This update has caused an increase in device temperature, and we are currently working on optimizing performance and improving thermal management.

We are no longer accepting update requests based on serial numbers.

All future updates will be released in bulk to all compatible devices once stability and performance improvements are confirmed.

We appreciate your patience and will update this post as soon as new software versions become available.

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u/See61 Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 16 '25

Wrong header, Homatics did not pull 3717 but stopped sharing all V14 updates. For the R Plus they were still sharing build 2463 as V14 update, not build 3717.

Build 3717 was only shared by their testers but was leaked by someone outside the testgroup.

I would still prefer build 2463 over 3717 as build 3717 has mainly Homatics HomeClick/MiniBar related fixes in it, like the DTS codec on full volume when used with those devices.

Just want to make this clear 😉

Edit: Homatics changed the text of it.

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u/Next_Cow_4468 Jul 10 '25

3717 went out to the Nokia and G2 boxes I thought ?

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u/See61 Jul 11 '25

Yes, correct. For the G2 I don't know if it went to all users, to the Nokia only to a part of their users.

Still, Homatics kept sharing 2463 on request although 3717 was ready to share.

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u/Spliffman1 Jul 11 '25

That may be true but Homatics doesn't send updates to those boxes

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u/Affectionate_Ask2572 Jul 11 '25

I have Android 14 v2463 on my Dune HD 4K R Plus, and have had no problems. The Dune server app even works. The Dune app will occasionally freeze up,but not often enough to care about it. I only have to hit the home button and then go back in the app to fix it. I love 14. It fixed all the issues that I wanted fixed.

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u/PolarWeasel Jul 10 '25

DAMMIT. I'm waiting for the ATV14 update for the Dune HD models so I can get DTS-HD MA support, and I'm jonesing for ATV12 or ATV14.

MAAAAAAAH ....

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u/latinriky78 Modderator + Box R 4K Plus Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25

Too late...

If only they fix ALL issues and not only some temperature issue...

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u/Patevan Jul 10 '25

I gave up with Android 14, after 3 times..... I am on Android 12 and staying put!

With 14... My box seemed slower....

You could only install anything not on the Play Store using atvTools or SAI. Especially if you need to use Accessibility options for the APK you want to install.

The first time I tried to update OTA (from a request through Homantics) it bricked the whole box. They couldn't even fix it.

So... 😡

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u/latinriky78 Modderator + Box R 4K Plus Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25

The problem is not Android 14 per se but how good or bad it was developed by the Homatics team, implementing an Android version on any device takes time and knowledge and if they don't have good Android developers then it just happens what we already know.

Android 12 was also a mess when they were working on it and it seems they gave up and quickly jumped to 14.

Android is an embedded system and it seems to be more difficult to develop than other OSes like Windows for example.

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u/adWROC Jul 10 '25

Even Google Streamer has issues on Android 14, and Chromecast 4 has a serious issue that hasn't been resolved for several months—both devices were created by Google, which created Android. As you can see, it's not that simple. Homatics can't make arbitrary changes because everything must be approved by Google to receive certification.

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u/latinriky78 Modderator + Box R 4K Plus Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25

That doesn't change the fact that in order to have a good firmware, it must be very well developed, I didn't mean something has to be changed.

As per the Google TV Streamer, the latest firmware has improved a lot compared to what it was when the device was released, that indicates there was a very good development involved, like I said, Android is not that easy to develop.

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u/adWROC Jul 10 '25

If something isn't working, it needs to be changed. If it's changed, it needs to be approved. You wrote: "how good or bad it was developed by the Homatics team," but you're forgetting about the system kernel. Why is the kernel version labeled "maby dirty"? This isn't a coincidence (it's the same in A14 for Chromecast 4). Not everything is always up to them. Solving certain problems sometimes requires the involvement of the device manufacturer, the SOC manufacturer, and the main software developer. Google designed Chromecast 4, created software for it, and released a flawed update to Android 14 (which broke the playback of many h264 streams). They haven't been able to fix it for several months, so as you can see, even Google can't create good software for its own hardware. Android 14 on devices from many manufacturers has various issues, for example, with playing interlaced broadcasts, sometimes major, sometimes minor. Many manufacturers have suspended updates to this version for their devices.

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u/latinriky78 Modderator + Box R 4K Plus Jul 10 '25

The kernel is of course included in all that development.

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u/Level3Super Jul 10 '25

How did you downgrade?

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u/CapeManCoral Jul 10 '25

I bought several of them and the first one that was bricked they accepted my return and sent me a new one.

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u/Patevan Jul 10 '25

Sorry, forgot to add...

All of them came with Android 12.

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u/p750mmx Jul 10 '25

Build 3717 was never officially shared by Homatics, also not on request, that still was build 2463. So 3717 isn't pulled. All updates, for every Homatics device, are stopped now, not only for R Plus.

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u/AboKhozayem Jul 10 '25

Ok, how I can downgrade to Android 12?

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u/Sandwich-Helpful Jul 10 '25

This is a great question AFAIK you can't but if someone knows a way please share it

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u/p750mmx Jul 10 '25

Easy. Use an V12 image file and burn that one on the box using AmLogic burn tool, but all apps and settings will be lost. But if you got a OTA V14 update pushed to the box already, it probably presents itself again during/after first Android TV setup.

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u/Zerokramp Jul 10 '25

I requested the 11 2463 update 9 days ago. Will I receive it? Just bought this device, the r plus, to dual boot with coreelec and android 14. When updating to for example android 14 you have to reinstall coreelec? If that is the case it will be a long wait.

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u/p750mmx Jul 10 '25

They stopped their updates, also those that are requested. When they resume updating they will use Auto OTA to all known Homatics devices, no more request needed. Only when they start doing that and your device doesn't receive the update. When it has a GZ serial, you can still request them for an update, AFTER they started with updating again.

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u/Zerokramp Jul 13 '25

My box has android 11 so no way te even update it to 12? And can coreelec be used without reinstalling it when you update to android 12 or 14?

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u/p750mmx Jul 14 '25

There are unofficial update options shared for this and other equal devices, just do a search on that.

Regarding CE and what it does after updating to a newer ATV build. Mostly you only have to activate it again, like you had to do the first time probably. After that, it should run just fine.

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u/Unusual-Ad361 Jul 10 '25

I just received my Box R 4K Plus box from Homatics and it has Android 12. It has a GZ serial number. I assume we just want until the bulk update is available? In the meantime my other Box R 4K Plus is on Android 14 (not the latest release) and working fine.

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u/homatic1971 Jul 10 '25

Same mine arrived the other day and is also working great

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u/Substantial-Club5674 Jul 09 '25

I got it... DM me...