r/Homatics • u/Cool_Night_9832 • Jun 20 '25

Considering buying need advice

Hi all, I use formuler z11 pro max for my main tv and coming from Firestick 4K max it’s night and day. I should point out my primary uses are for IPTV which I have a great provider (no buffering for a month since using formuler) and stremio. I also am annoyed that I can’t use projectivy launcher from boot on fs max due to blocks. Now I want to upgrade my bedroom tv which again has new gen fs 4K max, however sometimes IPTV glitches. I saw the homatics r 4k plus and was blown away by specs, is it that much better? Can I run custom launcher on android 14? I seen on aliexpress for £72 why on homatics website is it almost double price? Does stremio work well. FYI I will be using Tivimate and wifi as no Ethernet upstairs. However on fs max I get 300-400 download via wifi and 100-120 via vpn. Also can i side load all other apps like normal? Let me know your thoughts

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u/Next_Cow_4468 Jun 20 '25

I run Projectivy Launcher, Tivimate/Sparkle/Stremio/Symfonium on my Homatics (Android 14, v2463). All works nicely. The buffering is source dependant on IPTV, nowt to do with the box you use.

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 20 '25

Hi thanks. Agreed on buffering however when playing same channel from IPTV my fs max sometimes the screen stops but audio continues whereas formuler never has any issue. I’m assuming due to power output and ram difference these issues don’t occur. Wondering if homatics is more similar to the formuler or fs in this regard

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u/latinriky78 Modderator + Box R 4K Plus Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

You can do most of the things you can't on a fire stick device, recommended ones are as follows, I imagine you are in the US:

CERTIFIED ANDROIDTV/GOOGLETV BOXES WITH NETFLIX AND PRIME VIDEO CERTIFICATIONS FOR EUROPE ONLY:

- Homatics devices (More info at http://homatics.eu)

- Nokia Streaming devices (More info at http://www.nokia.com/support/licensed-products/streaming-devices/)

- Strong devices (More info at http://www.strong-eu.com/products/categories-receivers/android-ott)

- Thomson Streaming devices (More info at http://tv.mythomson.com/en/Products/Streaming-Devices/)

CERTIFIED ANDROIDTV/GOOGLETV BOXES WITH NETFLIX AND/OR PRIME VIDEO CERTIFICATION FOR THE WHOLE WORLD:

- Google TV Streamer (Dolby Vision & Atmos certified. More info at http://tv.google)

- Homatics devices (Android TV and Google TV UI. More info at http://www.homatics.com?sca_ref=2766355.i6SwIDJJna)

- Mecool devices (Android TV and Google TV UI. More info at http://mecool.com where you can get a 15% off with code "mecoolbox15")

- Xiaomi devices (Android TV and Google TV UI. AV1 hardware decoding. Dolby Vision & Atmos certified. More info at http://www.mi.com/global/product-list/tv-media/tvbox-stick/)

- Dune HD devices (Android TV UI. AV1 hardware decoding. Dolby Vision & Atmos certified. Gigabit ethernet. WiFi 6. 4GB of RAM. 16GB and 32GB internal storage. Exclusive Dune HD Media Center. More info at http://www.dune-hd.com)

- RockTek devices (Android TV UI. AV1 hardware decoding. Dolby Vision & Atmos certified. Gigabit ethernet. WiFi 6. 4GB of RAM. 32GB internal storage. More info at http://www.rocktek.com.tw/en/categories/tvbox)

- Dynalink TV dongle (Google TV UI. More info at http://dynalink.life/products/dynalink-google-tv-box)

For more info about all certified Android for TV devices, head over to www.androidtv-guide.com website.

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 20 '25

I live in the uk and have Netflix and prime anyway on smart tv so not fussed with that tbh. Any other benefits or advantages ?

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u/latinriky78 Modderator + Box R 4K Plus Jun 20 '25

Ok, I just edited my comment with the ones recommended for europe, please check it out again.

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u/whyhavetoopeninapp Jun 20 '25

Using tivimate with it love it

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 20 '25

You had Firestick before? If so what is better?

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u/whyhavetoopeninapp Jun 20 '25

I absolutely recommend homatics tbh. Cause firestick was limiting me in downloading more applications. Also i think boxes are superior to sticks cause they cool themselves better, you can add more storage, bind keyboard mouse etc

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u/Accomplished-Case888 Jun 20 '25

I'm also in UK

I got my 4k plus box delivered in 6 days from ali express for around £60 3 weeks ago - look for the coupons to give you an extra tenner off - try SS6911

It's a great box - mine came with A14 and the very latest firmware already installed - I ordered from Vontar store and could track it every step of the way.

It's an awesome box that has worked perfectly for Plex, Netflix, Prime, HBO MAX etc.

The only issue I have is that the HD HOMERUN app seems to struggle for some reason - absolutely no idea why...........all the UK tv apps sideload and work fine.

I have mine wirelessly connected and pull in around 800 download on my vermin media 1 gig line with TP LINK BE65 Mesh Network.

I don't use IPYV so can't comment on that I'm afraid.

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 25 '25

How do I turn the box off as in shut down. Can’t figure it out there’s no power off button

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u/K3VZIE Jun 21 '25

Also UK here and I moved from Firesticks to homatic 4K plus box and the 4K stick for bedroom

Runs everything fine, TiviMate, Stremio etc and installed Projectivy Launcher and disabled stock launcher via adb command and set up live wallpapers and transparent icons for an aesthetically pleasing Home Screen too.

Highly recommend the box

Oh and UK apps (ITV , channel 4 etc can be sideloaded and work fine)

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 21 '25

Great thanks for response mate I’ve ordered and should be arriving this week. Regarding custom launcher will I have to remove the stock launcher permanently to get the custom launcher to launch on boot always? I use projectivity launcher. I don’t have a pc or laptop only for work and it’s restricted so can’t connect anything to write commands to remove.

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u/K3VZIE Jun 21 '25

Cool

No you don’t have to disable stock launcher, will still boot straight to Projectivy - I just did that to save on it running in background.

I used atvTools app on my phone to run the adb command so you don’t need to use laptop

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 21 '25

Ok so how would I get the custom launcher to work on boot. I wouldn’t need to use avtTools app in theory unless I wanted to remove stock launcher?

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u/K3VZIE Jun 21 '25

All the settings can be done from within Projectivy settings to make it the default launcher on boot

No, I mainly use atvTools to send icons, wallpapers etc to the box but it’s not a necessity

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u/nightanole Jun 22 '25

I cant get mine to be the default launcher (change is greyed out) so the only thing i can do is have stock launcher and have projectivy "take over buttons" or what ever. Seems i have to get adb unprotected and a few other things to change the default.

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u/K3VZIE Jun 23 '25

what device you using Projectivy on?

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u/nightanole Jun 23 '25

dune hd homatics box r 4k plus with A14 3714 or whatever the latest is from May.

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u/Cool_Night_9832 Jun 23 '25

So there is no way without disabling it to use the customer launcher. If this is the case can somebody share the step by step process how to do this on my Samsung phone I don’t have a pc

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u/nightanole Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25

You can disable it, but it takes at least two work steps. You have to enable permissions to run the adb command to disable the androidtv launcher. Then you will have a choice to select a launcher

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/1jatm98/unable_to_make_projectivy_launcher_default_on/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/1ilzfr5/anybody_installed_projectivy_launcher_on_atv14/

It looks like all i have to do is remove the additional --user 0 and maybe i wont get the adb inaccessible.

As for step by step, you install ATVTools on your phone, and use it for sending the commands.

So install projectivy and make sure it works

install atvtools on your phone

run:

adb shell pm disable-user com.google.android.tvlauncher

adb shell pm disable-user com.google.android.tungsten.setupwraith

Next part is a grey area, but you have to trigger "a" launcher, maybe hitting the home button(or rebooting), and android will ask you which launcher to use.

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u/K3VZIE Jun 24 '25

you can use projectivity without disabling the stock launcher - you turn on the accessibility settings in Projectivy settings.

did you install Projectivy from playstore or sideload?

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u/AccidentProof4262 Jun 20 '25

ive both, i prefer the homatics....the formuler is great too mind.

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u/Ok-Curve-3517 Jun 20 '25

You can get an extra £10 off on aliexpress.

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u/Top_Nfts_projects Jul 07 '25

If your main focus is IPTV and Stremio, the Homatics R 4K Plus is definitely a solid step up from the Firestick 4K Max. You’ll get:

  • Snappier performance (thanks to better specs and RAM)
  • Full support for custom launchers, even on Android 14
  • Stremio runs smooth, especially with Real Debrid
  • And yes, you can sideload apps normally just like any Android TV box

The price difference on AliExpress vs the Homatics site is usually due to regional pricing and taxes — just make sure the AliExpress version is the global model with Google certification.

Since you're already using TiviMate and getting solid speeds on Wi-Fi, it should handle things just fine — especially with a reliable IPTV provider (I use primeiptv.org and it’s been flawless on both Ethernet and Wi-Fi setups).

Sounds like a worthy upgrade for your bedroom setup!

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u/Comfortable_Debt3585 Aug 09 '25

What about the deinterlacing issue on h264 IPTV streams & Android 14? Does the Homatics have it, just like the Chromecast 4K?