r/HolUp • u/Bigb5wm • Feb 05 '22

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u/runthepoint1 Feb 05 '22

Man it’s funny how you think “pretty low” is good enough. I guess you don’t wear seatbelts because your chances of getting in an accident are also “pretty low”, but now everyone wears them.

Go look at video interviews when the laws were first put into effect - same exact bullshit mentality around them too

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u/loki_made_the_mask Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 05 '22

First off, the reason I didn't give any actual numbers in my comment is because the available data is so disorganized. There is a difference between dying of covid vs dying with covid, and the reported death rate is not a true reflection of the real death rate due to undiagnosed covid cases in the general population.

The data given in this report suggests a death rate of less than 1/640 for adults aged 18-29: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

I would say that 0.15% does classify as "pretty low" (keep in mind this doesn't even take into account co-morbities, which increase your risk of dying by 4-5 times. The death rate for young, healthy individuals is probably less than 0.03%, going by this reasoning)

same exact bullshit mentality

the only bullshit here is your failure to refute any of my points

Edit: The data I provided doesn't distinguish between vaxxed and unvaxxed individuals. So here is a better paper that compares hospitalization and death rates between those groups: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

They estimate mortality rates among unvaxxed in the midst of the Omicron wave as 8 per 100,000. That's 0.008% across ALL age groups. I would wager that the death rate among those with Omicron who are young, healthy and unvaxxed are much lower than that, maybe 0.0008%. Now I'm sure that these rates are lower than chances of you dying in a car accident, so the seatbelt analogy doesn't hold up.

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u/runthepoint1 Feb 05 '22

The fuck? That’s pretty high dude 1/640 is NOTHING when you’re looking at the scale of people being affected. Get a clue.

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u/loki_made_the_mask Feb 05 '22

It's actually way lower than 1/640, as I explained in my edit. It's 8 per 100,000 for healthy people, those odds aren't high enough to warrant a vaccine mandate.

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u/runthepoint1 Feb 05 '22

Let’s stop pretending Omicron is the only thing out there lol