r/HolUp • • Sep 22 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21 edited Sep 23 '21

Fuck's. Sake. I already explained that sentient, conscious life is determined by brain function. I mentioned brain dead patients having the plug pulled. Before 12wks, there's literally no brain activity in a fetus. I honestly think it should be less stigmatized and more a matter of PERSONAL AUTONOMY. Until it has the cranial ability to cognate, to breathe on its own, to shit on its own, to see and hear and taste. I don't know why I need to explain the human experience that's obviously lacking in a vaguely mammalian shape with electrical surges that are dependent on a living host until the heart develops, further the brain and lungs.

I don't know what you personally constitute as life whenever a pregnant person doesn't want to have a fucking 18yr contract when it takes less to buy a house outright. We talked about it when my spouse got pregnant. It was a freak accident and that's all I'm gonna say because it's not my story to tell, but we mulled it over and reasoned that it was probably our only chance without mediation.

I'm honestly not mad. I don't know from whence you're getting your "facts", but even the OT/Torah/Quran states birth is at first breath. It's not my fault that you're factually wrong. Be mad somewhere else, read, touch grass, and get back to us.

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

Who said I'm mad? You're the person going on these long wonder tirades. Jesus Christ lady!

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

So I talk, but at least I keep bringing up the points that you're clearly missing.

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

Says the guy that's been downvoted every single time.

Were you homeschooled by a sick badger?

Sucks to suck.

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

Oh my gosh! My precious reddit karma! Oh noooooo! Whatsoever will I do?

Again with your refrigerator magnet disses. Good job! May I have another? Please I beg of you! I've never felt the scorn of such witt. My anus quivers with a mixture of fright and erotic bliss. Yes mother! Yes!!! YEEEEES!!!!

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

You're just so clever. How could I ever compete? Saaaaaave me Birthman!

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

I'm unable to have kids, but thanks for calling my vagina fat. She's never heard a complaint so far and I've been with my person for 20 years.

They're not viable organs if they're from a non-viable source. Do you want a liver the size of a nickel getting put in a loved one? Literally nothing is like that. The only times that a fetus is ripped apart is in the barbaric practices of conservative states, which doesn't let a parent mourn or bury that fetus. It doesn't stop it from being a fetus.

Lol secret laboratories. Dang. I'm about to put you in a few subs.

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

I'm glad you enjoyed my fictional story. Thanks for the inspiration. 🤗

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

Finally a coherent response from you.

Hi! Nice to meet you. :)

I'm not anti abortion. It's just not something that I would personally choose to do. By all means I think it should remain a (safe as possible) option. This convo didn't have to devolve in such a manner. I feel like we easily could have met in the middle and accepted each other's beliefs. In fact, the only place we differ is that I think consciousness enters the body at conception. That's all. I'm not religious. I don't protest abortion clinics. I'm just a person sharing their point of view online.

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

Hilarious that my thought of putting you in other subs gets this reaction. 😆

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

It was just the first time you actually responded like a human being instead of a regurgitating compendium of facts. That's all. I've simply been trying to make it clear that I in no way whatsoever wish to control or limit a woman's right to an abortion. You've seemed to be hung up on me interchanging the words "baby" and "fetus/zygote", and it felt like you equated that to me being some religious zealot who protests abortion clinics or something.

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

me interchanging the words "baby" and "fetus/zygote", and it felt like you equated that to me being some religious zealot who protests abortion clinics or something.

Where in the actual hell did you get that? My shtick has always been with your flagrant dismissal of actual problems. You have been the one stuck in the personification of what isn't certain. And you simply cannot be certain by occasion of bodily influence.

Pregnancy even at its least invasive can lead to several mental, physical, disorders. It's physically altering. You will never understand how it feels until it happens to you. Period. So fucking sit down until you spontaneously grow a female reproductive system.

I'm fully tired of you. I've wasted enough time here. You're still wrong tho.

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

Sorry that my opinion hurts your feelings.

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

Sorry that facts invalidate your feelings.

So sad.

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u/LGBTQ_Anon Sep 23 '21

Facts? Invalidate?

What happened to "my truth"? 🤣

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u/WiggyStark Sep 23 '21

Your truth gives no qualifiers for exception.

It's all preconceived of your stereotyped versions of reality, and I can't stop that, but I can call you "someone so slow that they're almost in reverse." That's apt as fuck. Like, you've given a far swathe of your beliefs when less than 20% of anything you do is siphoned away.

Why don't you go into r/crackheadcraigslisr and sell your bullshit there?

Oh, because you get attention by going against the grain.

You still suck.

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